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Post by EsteemedLeader© on Dec 9, 2006 0:15:15 GMT -5
Alright, if all the gods/deities/divinities/whatever you want to call them, got into one big fight, who would be the last god standing?
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Post by newjak on Dec 9, 2006 0:55:13 GMT -5
Well I guess beings like God.allah would win since they are supposed to be all powerful and sentient as well with everything underneath them.
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Post by EsteemedLeader© on Dec 9, 2006 1:05:21 GMT -5
You gotta read between the lines man.
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Post by newjak on Dec 9, 2006 1:06:56 GMT -5
What exactly do you mean?
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Post by EsteemedLeader© on Dec 9, 2006 1:27:13 GMT -5
Well, if all the gods are in the ring fighting, then they must all exist. But if they all exist, then which one is the correct religion?
This argument creates many conflicts and fallacies, so it is not possible to accept that characteristics applied to said deitified individuals are inherently true.
So as it stands that all religions say that "we are right and all the other religions are not so correct as us", this creates a logical fallacy in that they have all been proven true which also proves all of them to be wrong.
You see, we're in the ether man. The face values of the religious outlooks have to be discarded to fulfill the quota.
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Post by newjak on Dec 9, 2006 1:30:31 GMT -5
Well, if all the gods are in the ring fighting, then they must all exist. But if they all exist, then which one is the correct religion? This argument creates many conflicts and fallacies, so it is not possible to accept that characteristics applied to said deitified individuals are inherently true. So as it stands that all religions say that "we are right and all the other religions are not so correct as us", this creates a logical fallacy in that they have all been proven true which also proves all of them to be wrong. You see, we're in the ether man. The face values of the religious outlooks have to be discarded to fulfill the quota. I see what your saying your looking at it past thw whole just let them fight..........interesting concept |
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Post by EsteemedLeader© on Dec 9, 2006 1:45:56 GMT -5
Indeed.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 15, 2006 19:43:33 GMT -5
Well, if all the gods are in the ring fighting, then they must all exist. But if they all exist, then which one is the correct religion? 1. This is an entirely hypothetical argument. So we are considering your conditions in your premise. 2. Do you know what the definition of a God is? Anything can be a god if enough people substantially believe in it. An idol, a frying pan, a statue, whatever. Just because people make religions and gods doesn't mean that they are right. And because one is right/wrong doesn't mean the others exist. Personally I think it is more of the relationship one has than the label they carry amongst themselves, that is something that mankind has created, and will have flaws. This argument creates many conflicts and fallacies, so it is not possible to accept that characteristics applied to said deitified individuals are inherently true. But mankind created these fallicies to begin with, we created the religions and gods to begin with, but the "winner" in this situation (who need not be named since it doesn't matter) would be the eternal one that was not created by man. But you'll see that several are actually vastly similar, even if the rules are different. Only one would have the characteristics. But that one can have many different interpretations by many people, no different than anything else that has the multiple interpretations by many people. So as it stands that all religions say that "we are right and all the other religions are not so correct as us", this creates a logical fallacy in that they have all been proven true which also proves all of them to be wrong. And logic is itself a fallacy in this case because it works with only the resources we as humans have to go on to, it can define an undefined variable. x+2=? x=? So we as humans can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt any religion, but faith comes in there as well. There are many other things we believe in often that we can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt. You see, we're in the ether man. The face values of the religious outlooks have to be discarded to fulfill the quota. In this argument of course, but it's hypothetical to begin with. |
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Post by EsteemedLeader© on Dec 15, 2006 23:38:59 GMT -5
C, you totally missed the point my friend.
We have taken the plane of thinking and removed it from Midgard and into a hypothetical universe.
Ergo, we use that universe's logic, and then our logic to interpret that.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 15, 2006 23:47:30 GMT -5
C, you totally missed the point my friend. We have taken the plane of thinking and removed it from Midgard and into a hypothetical universe. Ergo, we use that universe's logic, and then our logic to interpret that. But I saw that and it looked flawed. If we are going to change the basic principle of how we interpret something in apply it in a hypothetical setting, we can't apply the exact concepts to our setting and deem it to be logical. From what I read it's like saying Spiderman vs. Wolverine. Then saying the match can't happen because they don't exist. From the way I interpreted it, the argument appeared inconsistent. I know your basic argument was the foundation of religion being based off of "we are right and noone else is" making them all wrong, but our limited knowledge brings limited logic in that argument. If that made sense. |
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Post by EsteemedLeader© on Dec 16, 2006 0:41:34 GMT -5
Let me put it like this:
We had to put the square peg into the round hole, so we shaved of the corners to make it fit.
Although we have not put, in purest terms, the original version of the square peg into the round hole, we have put the CLOSEST POSSIBLE thing in.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 16, 2006 5:59:28 GMT -5
Let me put it like this: We had to put the square peg into the round hole, so we shaved of the corners to make it fit. Although we have not put, in purest terms, the original version of the square peg into the round hole, we have put the CLOSEST POSSIBLE thing in. Ok, as long as we are using this peg in theory in understanding that the end result won't fit quite right, then that makes sense. |
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Post by EsteemedLeader© on Dec 16, 2006 20:43:13 GMT -5
It won't fit quite right, but it will fit as well as it ever could.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 16, 2006 21:01:14 GMT -5
It won't fit quite right, but it will fit as well as it ever could. Can you repeat the premise or your purpose in making this battle again, so I'm not overlooking anything. ;D |
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Post by EsteemedLeader© on Dec 16, 2006 21:04:16 GMT -5
Um... gods and deities and shit duke it out in...
A TEXAS CAGE MATCH!!!
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 16, 2006 21:08:56 GMT -5
Um... gods and deities and shit duke it out in... A TEXAS CAGE MATCH!!! Shit is in this too?  |
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Post by EsteemedLeader© on Dec 16, 2006 22:25:00 GMT -5
Never heard of Shitism?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 16, 2006 23:22:02 GMT -5
Yea, but once people hear the extra syllable... |
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Post by burningthought on Jul 12, 2008 5:13:00 GMT -5
If we take them as excisting things then the one with the most belivers would win, so prob some Chinese religion or something
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jul 12, 2008 10:03:18 GMT -5
If we take them as excisting things then the one with the most belivers would win, so prob some Chinese religion or something So you think all Gods are powered by whether or not we believe in them? |
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Post by complexbrother on Jan 13, 2010 11:34:35 GMT -5
everyone will be shocked to see tha only one god steps in the ring, and with him he will have a list of named the the human race have called him throught human history.
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Post by Saikyo Kid on Jan 13, 2010 19:19:47 GMT -5
Lol...
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 14, 2010 9:22:10 GMT -5
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Post by Saikyo Kid on Jan 14, 2010 19:30:32 GMT -5
"everyone will be shocked to see tha only one god steps in the ring, and with him he will have a list of named the the human race have called him throught human history."
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Post by toobz on Jan 28, 2010 1:56:53 GMT -5
I'd like a royale with cheese.
Also, Goku would win. I mean, supreme kai is the best that the next dimension has. And he sucks compared to Vegeta, much less Goku. Its basically a sure victory.
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Post by Saikyo Kid on Jan 29, 2010 15:57:16 GMT -5
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 30, 2010 4:28:35 GMT -5
Yea this is one of *those* threads.
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Post by Dja Majista on Jan 30, 2010 12:32:30 GMT -5
Nope, Cthullu would raep goku.
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Post by toobz on Jan 30, 2010 22:05:27 GMT -5
niggas don't know about my kayoken
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Post by Dja Majista on Jan 31, 2010 0:04:15 GMT -5
Goku: Kayoken...
Vegeta: Nooooooooooo...
Goke: ...times...
Vegeta: No no nooo...
Goku: FOUR
BLAAAAAARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
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