Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII

[Blaze72]

So yeah this one is out next month

[Blaze72]

Most likely will get his one

still need to finish off XIII & XIII-2.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jan 14, 2014 0:30:20 GMT -5 Blaze72 said:

Most likely will get his one

still need to finish off XIII & XIII-2.

I haven't played Final Fantasy in a long, long time.

[JACK-2]

I <3 Lightning.

[Blaze72]

XIII got hated upon when it first got released from some places seem to be because it wasn't open world like Elder Scrolls, Fallout etc

and i think i remember some people felt the story convoluted, I'll admit it was alot to take in.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jan 14, 2014 0:53:04 GMT -5 Blaze72 said:

XIII got hated upon when it first got released from some places seem to be because it wasn't open world like Elder Scrolls, Fallout etc

and i think i remember some people felt the story convoluted, I'll admit it was alot to take in.

Skyrim is the new thing so I could see why people were complaining.

[Blaze72]

Gotta love the gamer's these days

some new game is the 'IT' thing so all games have to follow suit 

[JACK-2]

Video Games always have trends [remember fighting game sin the 90's?] I'm getting too old for bandwagons now, though.

[Blaze72]

I go with what i like

not some new game which is the "It" thing.....sure i'll try it out but if it doesn't do much for me i move on.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jan 14, 2014 1:07:43 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Video Games always have trends [remember fighting game sin the 90's?] I'm getting too old for bandwagons now, though.

God there were too many fighting knockoffs back then. Oversaturated as all hell.

[JACK-2]

Jan 14, 2014 1:24:04 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Jan 14, 2014 1:07:43 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Video Games always have trends [remember fighting game sin the 90's?] I'm getting too old for bandwagons now, though.

God there were too many fighting knockoffs back then. Oversaturated as all hell.

That's why it's always funny to hear people complain about over saturation of shooters in video games. You can tell these people weren't gaming in the 90's. When ever something is trending there is always market saturation.

[Blaze72]

Jan 14, 2014 1:24:04 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Jan 14, 2014 1:07:43 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Video Games always have trends [remember fighting game sin the 90's?] I'm getting too old for bandwagons now, though.

God there were too many fighting knockoffs back then. Oversaturated as all hell.

There's one i remember seeing,  It was an ad in a comic forgot the name of it

but it seemed to be trying to rip off  Street fighter 2.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Every game was ripping off SF back then lol.

Jan 14, 2014 1:26:05 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Jan 14, 2014 1:24:04 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

God there were too many fighting knockoffs back then. Oversaturated as all hell.

That's why it's always funny to hear people complain about over saturation of shooters in video games. You can tell these people weren't gaming in the 90's. When ever something is trending there is always market saturation.

Then they all die down. Halo died down, and it seems CoD is slowly waning.

[JACK-2]

Jan 14, 2014 1:35:16 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Every game was ripping off SF back then lol.

Jan 14, 2014 1:26:05 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

That's why it's always funny to hear people complain about over saturation of shooters in video games. You can tell these people weren't gaming in the 90's. When ever something is trending there is always market saturation.

Then they all die down. Halo died down, and it seems CoD is slowly waning.

Yeah, people make a big deal over nothing. That's how business is and alot of good fighting games came from that oversaturation: Fatal Fury, KOF, Tekken, DOA, etc.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jan 14, 2014 1:44:01 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Jan 14, 2014 1:35:16 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Every game was ripping off SF back then lol.

Then they all die down. Halo died down, and it seems CoD is slowly waning.

Yeah, people make a big deal over nothing. That's how business is and alot of good fighting games came from that oversaturation: Fatal Fury, KOF, Tekken, DOA, etc.

I thought SNk's first fighter hit before the official buz, but yea you're right. I think people have a problem with the bad games. It does get annoying seeing all of the Cod clones. Kof was great because it had it's own way of doing things. Like DOA does.

[JACK-2]

I can't speak for the market saturation of shooters because I'm not really into shooters. But, for fighters it wasn't a bad thing imo.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jan 14, 2014 4:47:27 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

I can't speak for the market saturation of shooters because I'm not really into shooters. But, for fighters it wasn't a bad thing imo.

I think you pick the good with the bad. But nowadays like we discussed before it's graphics over quality gameplay so that is part of it.

[JACK-2]

Jan 14, 2014 4:49:14 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Jan 14, 2014 4:47:27 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

I can't speak for the market saturation of shooters because I'm not really into shooters. But, for fighters it wasn't a bad thing imo.

I think you pick the good with the bad. But nowadays like we discussed before it's graphics over quality gameplay so that is part of it.

Hollywood caters to much to over-inflated budgets. It gt's to the point that it becomes impossible to make games because the standards are way too expensive.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jan 14, 2014 4:52:01 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Jan 14, 2014 4:49:14 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

I think you pick the good with the bad. But nowadays like we discussed before it's graphics over quality gameplay so that is part of it.

Hollywood caters to much to over-inflated budgets. It gt's to the point that it becomes impossible to make games because the standards are way too expensive.

Well you can go Indie or make games on mobile devices which is what many companies are doing. You just don't want to compete in the AAA title market that way.

[JACK-2]

I never liked the indie scene in the west. It's always been filled with talent-less and pretentious people. I like doujins, though.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

There have been some good things here. I just like whatever I find good. I don't care where it came from.

I actually quit games for a few years when I saw the state of it, I came back because of a few games that ended up being letdowns. That said I do like some of the other stuff that's out.

[JACK-2]

I feel the "indy" scene in the east is bigger and much more consistent.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jan 14, 2014 5:13:27 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

I feel the "indy" scene in the east is bigger and much more consistent.

It might be depending on what you mean by "Indy". Some very successful companies here are Indy. It also depends on taste as well. Many Indy games can feel like old school games if done right.

[JACK-2]

Jan 14, 2014 5:21:17 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Jan 14, 2014 5:13:27 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

I feel the "indy" scene in the east is bigger and much more consistent.

It might be depending on what you mean by "Indy". Some very successful companies here are Indy. It also depends on taste as well. Many Indy games can feel like old school games if done right.

I mean small developers, but I hate using the word indy. It conjurs images of of hipsters developing pretentious retro-esque games. That's generally been my experience. 

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jan 14, 2014 5:30:58 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Jan 14, 2014 5:21:17 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

It might be depending on what you mean by "Indy". Some very successful companies here are Indy. It also depends on taste as well. Many Indy games can feel like old school games if done right.

I mean small developers, but I hate using the word indy. It conjurs images of of hipsters developing pretentious retro-esque games. That's generally been my experience. 

Yep. It sounds like the people who "try" to be trendy and different. They're as annoying as the ones who jump on the popular bandwagon.

[JACK-2]

Jan 14, 2014 5:35:21 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Jan 14, 2014 5:30:58 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

I mean small developers, but I hate using the word indy. It conjurs images of of hipsters developing pretentious retro-esque games. That's generally been my experience. 

Yep. It sounds like the people who "try" to be trendy and different. They're as annoying as the ones who jump on the popular bandwagon.

In someways the mainstream is actually better because it's not pretentious and this is not limited to games: Movies, Music, Comics, etc. The non-mainstream stuff tends to reek of this type of arrogant force avant-garde/ pseudo-intellectual tripe. It's similar to liberals who do "yoga" and spirituality because it's cool. There's so much pretense leaking from below the surface, it's ugh.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jan 14, 2014 5:43:13 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Jan 14, 2014 5:35:21 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Yep. It sounds like the people who "try" to be trendy and different. They're as annoying as the ones who jump on the popular bandwagon.

In someways the mainstream is actually better because it's not pretentious and this is not limited to games: Movies, Music, Comics, etc. The non-mainstream stuff tends to reek of this type of arrogant force avant-garde/ pseudo-intellectual tripe. It's similar to liberals who do "yoga" and spirituality because it's cool. There's so much pretense leaking from below the surface, it's ugh.

That's why I simply like what I like. You have the side who likes the mainstream BECAUSE it's the latest thing. Then you have the people who like the less popular JUST because it's less popular.

I remember my buddy complaining about everything that's popular, like The Dark Knight. Then we saw Max Payne later that year and he thought it was great. Why? Because it wasn't *as* popular. Just silly to me.

Those liberals are just a bunch of posers. The whole "Yoga, spirit, vegan." thing is so old.

[JACK-2]

Pretty much, anyone who attaches their self-worth to what video game or movie they watch is a loser period. There's taste and then there's stupidity. It's just people showing off and attention whoring.

[Blaze72]

Jan 14, 2014 5:57:11 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

I remember my buddy complaining about everything that's popular, like The Dark Knight. Then we saw Max Payne later that year and he thought it was great. Why? Because it wasn't *as* popular. Just silly to me.

Except the Max Payne movie wasn't that great anyway....hell even the game developer who made it wasn't impressed by it.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jan 14, 2014 6:07:25 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Pretty much, anyone who attaches their self-worth to what video game or movie they watch is a loser period. There's taste and then there's stupidity. It's just people showing off and attention whoring.

I know them on real life and they're on this site too. We had that big console debate. They were going around complaining about Playstation 3 for the longest. They're Nintendo fanboys. Their parents raised them on Nintendo but they resented Sony (the fact that they couldn't have one). Once they could afford it they would just buy it used. Once Playstation 3 became cheap enough, they bought that too. Earlier they would bash it at every chance they got. That always annoyed me.