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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 17, 2014 0:22:49 GMT -5
Old news: www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jan/11/boon-mortal-kombat-9-sold-closer-4-million-units-3-likely-outperformed-vanilla-street-fighter-4/Mortal Kombat 9 sold closer to 4 million units than 3 million, according to NetherRealm Studios' Ed Boon. This would mean Mortal Kombat 9 likely outsold the vanilla release of Street Fighter 4, as according to Capcom's IR page, which was last updated on September 30, 2012 — their 4th entry of the previously long dormant franchise had moved 3.2 million copies to date world wide.
This figure doesn't factor in subsequent updates, like the disc releases of SSF4 and SSF4 AE v2012. The disc version of Super Street Fighter 4 was reported to have sold 2 million copies world wide.
Regardless, this is an impressive feat for the NetherRealm Studios team, and shows that the Mortal Kombat brand still has a lot of staying power. It will be especially interesting to see if their upcoming title, Injustice: Gods Among Us, can buck the trend of sluggish sales with recent fighters, when it's released in April of this year. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 17, 2014 4:17:57 GMT -5
Old news: www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jan/11/boon-mortal-kombat-9-sold-closer-4-million-units-3-likely-outperformed-vanilla-street-fighter-4/Mortal Kombat 9 sold closer to 4 million units than 3 million, according to NetherRealm Studios' Ed Boon. This would mean Mortal Kombat 9 likely outsold the vanilla release of Street Fighter 4, as according to Capcom's IR page, which was last updated on September 30, 2012 — their 4th entry of the previously long dormant franchise had moved 3.2 million copies to date world wide.
This figure doesn't factor in subsequent updates, like the disc releases of SSF4 and SSF4 AE v2012. The disc version of Super Street Fighter 4 was reported to have sold 2 million copies world wide.
Regardless, this is an impressive feat for the NetherRealm Studios team, and shows that the Mortal Kombat brand still has a lot of staying power. It will be especially interesting to see if their upcoming title, Injustice: Gods Among Us, can buck the trend of sluggish sales with recent fighters, when it's released in April of this year.Yea I heard about that. MK9 is a fun game, I wonder if it did well because it's more "newb friendly" than SF4? |
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 17, 2014 8:44:26 GMT -5
Mk was never a deep game. It's always been geared towards casuals and the emphasis one story and Gore has been it's slling point. Not trying to knock it, but it is what it is. MK9 was probably one of the better MK too.
TBH, I'm actually more interested in MK10 than SF5.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 17, 2014 12:46:07 GMT -5
Mk was never a deep game. It's always been geared towards casuals and the emphasis one story and Gore has been it's slling point. Not trying to knock it, but it is what it is. MK9 was probably one of the better MK too. TBH, I'm actually more interested in MK10 than SF5. I'd say it's the overall best. What is good about MK is that they know it and they're honest about it. Ed Boon said "fighting games are too complex nowadays, and should be made easier". It's funny since the new MK is more complex than the old, and old fighters are more complex than the new. SF is becoming more of a letdown honestly. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 17, 2014 16:44:38 GMT -5
I'd say it's the overall best. What is good about MK is that they know it and they're honest about it. Ed Boon said "fighting games are too complex nowadays, and should be made easier". It's funny since the new MK is more complex than the old, and old fighters are more complex than the new. SF is becoming more of a letdown honestly. Could you imagine if MK becomes more deep than SF lol? |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 17, 2014 17:48:05 GMT -5
I'd say it's the overall best. What is good about MK is that they know it and they're honest about it. Ed Boon said "fighting games are too complex nowadays, and should be made easier". It's funny since the new MK is more complex than the old, and old fighters are more complex than the new. SF is becoming more of a letdown honestly. Could you imagine if MK becomes more deep than SF lol? That wouldn't be surprising considering where they're headed. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 17, 2014 19:27:39 GMT -5
We'll see, since MK10 is coming out much sooner than Sf5.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 17, 2014 20:08:32 GMT -5
We'll see, since MK10 is coming out much sooner than Sf5. I'll be waiting for it. Don't know how it will be, but I hope it's great. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 17, 2014 21:10:11 GMT -5
I'll be waiting for it. Don't know how it will be, but I hope it's great. I'm more confident in NRS than Capcom at this point TBH. I should make a MK10 thread. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 17, 2014 22:03:50 GMT -5
I'll be waiting for it. Don't know how it will be, but I hope it's great. I'm more confident in NRS than Capcom at this point TBH. I should make a MK10 thread. I think people give games like MK and DoA a very hard time when they are good in their own way which I like. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 17, 2014 22:14:44 GMT -5
Capcom elitism, you know how it is. Funny thing is Capcom fans act as if SF is such a deep game despite 4 being dumbed down. I remember NRS trying really hard to get input from the competitive community, they even released frame data.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 17, 2014 22:21:36 GMT -5
Capcom elitism, you know how it is. Funny thing is Capcom fans act as if SF is such a deep game despite 4 being dumbed down. I remember NRS trying really hard to get input from the competitive community, they even released frame data. Those people are fanboys, we had some of them here from KMC, Frisky left because I disagreed with him on SF being perfect and he even posted a bunch of stuff that was flat out false. As said well right here: "How do you feel about Netherrealm fighters?" They are ultimately fairly balanced and pretty well put together. They listen to community feedback and make an active effort to keep the games fresh. The way in which normals and strings work makes the games feel a bit "non-traditional" but that should not be a complaint for those with open minds.I also like this comment here.
"What do you say to the idea that SF4 is "like Chess, since you have to think more and can't just run in." I disagree. To me there's a difference between smart defense and offense, and dumb defense and offense. SF4 IMO has a lot of "dumb" defense/offense that removes strategy. Thoughts? "This is a common complaint, and exists because you do not have -multiple, meaningful options- coming out of blockstun in SF4. Here's a handy dandy table to show your friends:
Offense:
Frame advantage
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Frame Trap (timing-dependent) - beats normals, throw techs, and jumping
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Throw - beats blocking
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Block - beats reversal attempts
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Defense:
Frame disadvantage
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Block - "beats" frame traps (you are still under pressure)
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Throw tech - beats blocking or mis-timed frame traps
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Reversal - may beat frame traps or throws or both, depends on character.
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Backdash - beats frame traps and throws, but can sometimes be reacted to and might go nowhere depending on character.
The aggressor has 3 "categories" of choices to make, and so does the defender (reversals and backdashes accomplish the same thing, avoiding frame traps and throws, but have different results and weaknesses). Each of these takes some practice to master, but the choices are ultimately the same regardless of character.
Three choices. Just three. With reversals and backdashing being highly character-dependent and flimsy, especially if your opponent knows how to Option Select.
Conclusion:
In SF4, -your decisions are made FOR you- if your opponent isn't being incredibly predictable. You have almost no real choices to make, you are simply "picking" from the three categories and so is your opponent. Unless you plan to avoid the close-range game altogether, you are subject to this mixup. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 20, 2014 11:08:58 GMT -5
Interesting match [Sonya vs Kenshi] Dat comeback
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 23, 2014 8:06:04 GMT -5
Sonya is a very good character in this game with her mix up options.
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 24, 2014 23:11:17 GMT -5
Her rush downs are crazy.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 25, 2014 4:10:24 GMT -5
Her rush downs are crazy. Yea, she's definitely near the very top. Not as good as Kabal though. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 25, 2014 4:54:17 GMT -5
Yea, she's definitely near the very top. Not as good as Kabal though. Who is though? lol |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 25, 2014 6:22:32 GMT -5
Yea, she's definitely near the very top. Not as good as Kabal though. Who is though? lol Nobody, but Cyrax is really good too. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 25, 2014 7:19:50 GMT -5
Nobody, but Cyrax is really good too. Really unique playstyle, but I could say the same for most of the cast. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 25, 2014 9:28:09 GMT -5
Nobody, but Cyrax is really good too. Really unique playstyle, but I could say the same for most of the cast. They do have a fun way of playing. It would be nice if it were better balanced but it is fun. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 25, 2014 12:11:15 GMT -5
They do have a fun way of playing. It would be nice if it were better balanced but it is fun. Yeah, cabals zoning for example is unique but it's crazy. NRS games have some crazy zoners. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 25, 2014 12:52:30 GMT -5
They do have a fun way of playing. It would be nice if it were better balanced but it is fun. Yeah, cabals zoning for example is unique but it's crazy. NRS games have some crazy zoners. Yep, overhead projectiles and everything else, much less linear than SF zoning. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 25, 2014 13:07:51 GMT -5
Don't forget full screen zoning with superman via injustice. The arc on that attack is crazy when he does it in the air.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 25, 2014 13:22:25 GMT -5
Don't forget full screen zoning with superman via injustice. The arc on that attack is crazy when he does it in the air. Superman's crazy in that game. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 25, 2014 13:31:03 GMT -5
He can zone and his trait is this crazy buff. Nvm his super is full screen and has armor lol.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 25, 2014 13:53:50 GMT -5
He can zone and his trait is this crazy buff. Nvm his super is full screen and has armor lol. Top tier material. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 25, 2014 14:01:09 GMT -5
He's no Kabal though.  |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 25, 2014 14:06:23 GMT -5
He's no Kabal though. Kabal is just insane really. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 25, 2014 14:19:38 GMT -5
Kabal is just insane really. He has the old old sagat thing going with his high low projectiles. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 25, 2014 14:45:16 GMT -5
Kabal is just insane really. He has the old old sagat thing going with his high low projectiles. Plus fast recovery with IAFB. |
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