Street Fighter 5 Announced: PC and PS4 Only With Cross Play!

[Great Dark Hero]

Ingrid doesn't really bother me that much. I am getting kind of exhausted with these evil-versions of pre-existing characters, though.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 10, 2015 21:06:11 GMT -5 azik21 said:

Thats pretty funny. Can a character ever be out of place in a fighting game; especially street fighter! I only see characters play styles being out of place so if shes anything like Athena she fits right in. Evil Ryu is out of place because he doesn't even exist yet. 5 characters more out of place then Ingrid - Sakura, Blanka, Dan, Evil Ryu, Oni. He'll there's magic in street fighter why can't there be a sun goddess!! Sounds like I want her but I still don't! I just don't like the reasons people would dismiss her..

I'm sure you like it because you're a huge Athena fan.

Well Evil Ryu was made canon in Alpha when they retconned Sagat into winning the first tournament and Ryu harnessing the Satsui No Hado against him. He's been around since Alpha 2 since the late 90's so he's nothing new. He's no more out of place style wise than Akuma. Although some people can't stand the DBZ character style which I understand but now we have Necalli, so it definitely appeals to a large base. I don't see how Sakura and Dan are out of place. Blanka and Dhalsim is weird, but SF always had weird characters; now they've gotten more over the top with their design. Look at SF3's cast with Twelve, Necro, Oro, and Gill. Those characters are WAY over the top compared to the very first game.

They're saying that a space travelling goddess loli girl who's more powerful than everyone fits a game more like Arcana heart than SF. Some say she's a mary sue. Personally I'd take Ingrid over many of the SF3 characters because that game had some ugly characters.

Evil Ryu's playstyle was always really good to me, especially in CvS2. He's far more exciting to play than Ryu for me nowadays. I like his high learning curve and moveset.

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Sept 10, 2015 21:46:14 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Sept 10, 2015 21:06:11 GMT -5 azik21 said:

Thats pretty funny. Can a character ever be out of place in a fighting game; especially street fighter! I only see characters play styles being out of place so if shes anything like Athena she fits right in. Evil Ryu is out of place because he doesn't even exist yet. 5 characters more out of place then Ingrid - Sakura, Blanka, Dan, Evil Ryu, Oni. He'll there's magic in street fighter why can't there be a sun goddess!! Sounds like I want her but I still don't! I just don't like the reasons people would dismiss her..

I'm sure you like it because you're a huge Athena fan.

Well Evil Ryu was made canon in Alpha when they retconned Sagat into winning the first tournament and Ryu harnessing the Satsui No Hado against him. He's been around since Alpha 2 since the late 90's so he's nothing new. He's no more out of place style wise than Akuma. Although some people can't stand the DBZ character style which I understand but now we have Necalli, so it definitely appeals to a large base. I don't see how Sakura and Dan are out of place. Blanka and Dhalsim is weird, but SF always had weird characters; now they've gotten more over the top with their design. Look at SF3's cast with Twelve, Necro, Oro, and Gill. Those characters are WAY over the top compared to the very first game.

They're saying that a space travelling goddess loli girl who's more powerful than everyone fits a game more like Arcana heart than SF. Some say she's a mary sue. Personally I'd take Ingrid over many of the SF3 characters because that game had some ugly characters.

Evil Ryu's playstyle was always really good to me, especially in CvS2. He's far more exciting to play than Ryu for me nowadays. I like his high learning curve and moveset.

I was being kinda sarcastic. I think that all of their play styles are all fine but as characters not so much. I mean as a character Sakura is a joke character. She technically can't fight at all so she doesn't fit in street fighter. I'm not going anywhere with this at all. I just find it dumb that a self taught school girl is in a fighting contest in the first place. Please don't say Dan trained her cause hes also another clown!

[JACK-2]

Sept 10, 2015 19:43:09 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Ingrid is a sun goddess apparently, not sure how much of that is canon. They said she was the source of Bison's power. Again not sure how much of that is canon.

Shin Bison from Alpha 3 had the full psycho drive and was the strongest, he couldn't even keep his power in his own body which is why he wanted Ryu's body. He should be able to cream Akuma.

Gill is powerful and has crazy abilities like resurrection, so he's a top runner too.

Bison is definitely stronger than akuma. I remember I had an argument with darkstorm zero over this.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Yea, everybody had a hard on for Akuma back then and still are. That said people can change their minds over time. Bison with pyscho drive is probably the strongest character outside of Ingrid if you count her.

Sept 10, 2015 22:14:29 GMT -5 azik21 said:

Sept 10, 2015 21:46:14 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

I'm sure you like it because you're a huge Athena fan.

Well Evil Ryu was made canon in Alpha when they retconned Sagat into winning the first tournament and Ryu harnessing the Satsui No Hado against him. He's been around since Alpha 2 since the late 90's so he's nothing new. He's no more out of place style wise than Akuma. Although some people can't stand the DBZ character style which I understand but now we have Necalli, so it definitely appeals to a large base. I don't see how Sakura and Dan are out of place. Blanka and Dhalsim is weird, but SF always had weird characters; now they've gotten more over the top with their design. Look at SF3's cast with Twelve, Necro, Oro, and Gill. Those characters are WAY over the top compared to the very first game.

They're saying that a space travelling goddess loli girl who's more powerful than everyone fits a game more like Arcana heart than SF. Some say she's a mary sue. Personally I'd take Ingrid over many of the SF3 characters because that game had some ugly characters.

Evil Ryu's playstyle was always really good to me, especially in CvS2. He's far more exciting to play than Ryu for me nowadays. I like his high learning curve and moveset.

I was being kinda sarcastic. I think that all of their play styles are all fine but as characters not so much. I mean as a character Sakura is a joke character. She technically can't fight at all so she doesn't fit in street fighter. I'm not going anywhere with this at all. I just find it dumb that a self taught school girl is in a fighting contest in the first place. Please don't say Dan trained her cause hes also another clown!

Well a character can be comedic and useful. I mean Yuri is silly and useful.

Karin is a schoolgirl and she can fight. Sakura just fought by watching some stuff on TV which was silly. None of the females would be fighting men at all. She's a prodigy in game though, Dan is actually weaker than her. Gurpwnder used that logic. Some of the best fighters are self taught. I'd take Sakura over Karin though for sure.

I don't worry about it too much as I care more about design.

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Sept 11, 2015 3:07:52 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Yea, everybody had a hard on for Akuma back then and still are. That said people can change their minds over time. Bison with pyscho drive is probably the strongest character outside of Ingrid if you count her.

Sept 10, 2015 22:14:29 GMT -5 azik21 said:

I was being kinda sarcastic. I think that all of their play styles are all fine but as characters not so much. I mean as a character Sakura is a joke character. She technically can't fight at all so she doesn't fit in street fighter. I'm not going anywhere with this at all. I just find it dumb that a self taught school girl is in a fighting contest in the first place. Please don't say Dan trained her cause hes also another clown!

Well a character can be comedic and useful. I mean Yuri is silly and useful.

Karin is a schoolgirl and she can fight. Sakura just fought by watching some stuff on TV which was silly. None of the females would be fighting men at all. She's a prodigy in game though, Dan is actually weaker than her. Gurpwnder used that logic. Some of the best fighters are self taught. I'd take Sakura over Karin though for sure.

I don't worry about it too much as I care more about design.

I was just making a point. I was able to immediately make Sakura not fit into street fighter just because shes a schoolgirl. My point is play style is what makes a character fit in a fighting game. It could be a monkey with a water gun as long as they play the same game then that's fine. You said people think Ingrid doesn't fit in sf but many characters that don't technically fit are already there. Now if we wanna talk about a character that doesn't fit at all; El Fuerte is your man

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 11, 2015 4:06:53 GMT -5 azik21 said:

Sept 11, 2015 3:07:52 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Yea, everybody had a hard on for Akuma back then and still are. That said people can change their minds over time. Bison with pyscho drive is probably the strongest character outside of Ingrid if you count her.

Well a character can be comedic and useful. I mean Yuri is silly and useful.

Karin is a schoolgirl and she can fight. Sakura just fought by watching some stuff on TV which was silly. None of the females would be fighting men at all. She's a prodigy in game though, Dan is actually weaker than her. Gurpwnder used that logic. Some of the best fighters are self taught. I'd take Sakura over Karin though for sure.

I don't worry about it too much as I care more about design.

I was just making a point. I was able to immediately make Sakura not fit into street fighter just because shes a schoolgirl. My point is play style is what makes a character fit in a fighting game. It could be a monkey with a water gun as long as they play the same game then that's fine. You said people think Ingrid doesn't fit in sf but many characters that don't technically fit are already there. Now if we wanna talk about a character that doesn't fit at all; El Fuerte is your man

Right as along as the character is fun, who cares? It's like the people who complain about women being hot in the games.


When they say "not fit" they're saying she's not within the theme of the game, in their mind it would be like adding Galactus to Kof or something, he'd be crazy strong. Not that it matters anyways as SF has plenty of weird characters at this point.

If they put her in there, just make her hot. That's all I'll say.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

www.periscope.tv/w/aMK5HjE0MjA4NzEzfDFZcUpEenFZbkVBS1Yn-FCyKqInLkySz2NqMrgn3LoDpQEgGOdIH3RgO0VEfw==

Some middle eastern guy, is it "Rashid" from the siliconera leak? Is the list law? Or was it Ken Bogard's list?
Where the hell is that list?

Here it is:

Rashid, Zen, Laura, Necalli. (Ken Bogard)

Alex, Urien, Mika, and Karin. (Siliconera)

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Appears to be so:

www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/sep/11/street-fighter-5s-second-brand-new-fighter-revealed-rashid-joins-fray/



Street Fighter series producer Yoshinori Ono had been teasing left and right with pictures of whirlwinds and various gust effects, and now we finally know what it was all pointing at.

This morning, during the Games '15 event in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates, Ono took to the stage to reveal Street Fighter 5's latest brand new character, Rashid, who joins Necalli, who we first saw at EVO 2015, in being a Street Fighter 5 newcomer.

This story will be updated with images and video footage as it becomes available. Hit the jump to check it out, and please keep checking back as more content will keep being added.

[JACK-2]

A flying Arab guy revealed in Dubai. . . on 9/11. . .

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 11, 2015 7:53:28 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

A flying Arab guy revealed in Dubai. . . on 9/11. . .

Lol, oh Capcom. If you don't care about SJW'S why would you care about this.

[JACK-2]

Japan doesn't care about the west period outside of money. My cynical side thinks they released this in Dubai [Where Rashid was shown] on 9/11 to market to that region. But, whatever.

I wonder what his V-Trigger is? Something wind related?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 11, 2015 8:20:08 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Japan doesn't care about the west period outside of money. My cynical side thinks they released this in Dubai [Where Rashid was shown] on 9/11 to market to that region. But, whatever.

I wonder what his V-Trigger is? Something wind related?

Of course it's all business. New York isn't the center of world like they think and it's been almost 15 years so we have to move on from stuff like that since it isn't constructive. Other countries have disasters as well.

Probably is wind based.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

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Sept 11, 2015 9:11:35 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Sept 11, 2015 8:20:08 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Japan doesn't care about the west period outside of money. My cynical side thinks they released this in Dubai [Where Rashid was shown] on 9/11 to market to that region. But, whatever.

I wonder what his V-Trigger is? Something wind related?

Of course it's all business. New York isn't the center of world like they think and it's been almost 15 years so we have to move on from stuff like that since it isn't constructive. Other countries have disasters as well.

Probably is wind based.

Capcom are pros at being offensive on purpose. Look at Deejays watermelon pants and how terrible American characters are portrayed. Ken-spoiled cocky. Viper- A bitch. Rufus- stereotypical American.
They are one of those companies that will never have real respect. I don't think its a marketing thing. Dubai should be annoyed since they will get unnecessary hate just because the date they announced him. I honestly thought they were US allies since the 60s and also have nothing to do with 9/11.

Anyways I don't like the character. Probably need to see him being used though; I thought R.Mika was boring/dumb before I watched Combofiend.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 11, 2015 13:33:38 GMT -5 azik21 said:

Sept 11, 2015 9:11:35 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Of course it's all business. New York isn't the center of world like they think and it's been almost 15 years so we have to move on from stuff like that since it isn't constructive. Other countries have disasters as well.

Probably is wind based.

Capcom are pros at being offensive on purpose. Look at Deejays watermelon pants and how terrible American characters are portrayed. Ken-spoiled cocky. Viper- A bitch. Rufus- stereotypical American.
They are one of those companies that will never have real respect. I don't think its a marketing thing. Dubai should be annoyed since they will get unnecessary hate just because the date they announced him. I honestly thought they were US allies since the 60s and also have nothing to do with 9/11.

Anyways I don't like the character. Probably need to see him being used though; I thought R.Mika was boring/dumb before I watched Combofiend.

Street Fighter has always been big on stereotypes though; it's what they do. The main cast are pretty much all stereotypes which is a major appeal of the series. Zangief all the way to Dhalsim. Most people enjoy how it makes the game stand out from others like MK.

Many people do respect Capcom when they make good games and only overly sensitive and SJW types would make a huge deal out of a new character. Viewing a character negatively because of some incident from two decades ago is more racist than anything. We do things that offend other people all of the time and we don't care about what happens in other countries at all.

Japanese culture doesn't subscribe to our PC nature and that is good. Character wise he seems bland and a bit like forced "diversity" but Sf is about world warriors. The moves look pretty neat as of now though.

[JACK-2]

Street Fighter has always been big on diversity since the concept of world warriors. This was waaay before the whole diversity movement entered gaming. People are just noticing now because the pc climate.


Japan has always done this. Look at Super Punch out from Nintendo. It's nothing but cultural stereotypes. That's just scratching the surface f course. Because the country is nt PC like we are.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 11, 2015 14:43:19 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Street Fighter has always been big on diversity since the concept of world warriors. This was waaay before the whole diversity movement entered gaming. People are just noticing now because the pc climate.


Japan has always done this. Look at Super Punch out from Nintendo. It's nothing but cultural stereotypes. That's just scratching the surface f course. Because the country is nt PC like we are.

It seems like they're really embracing the world warrior stuff again. Sf4 didn't have much of it. They seemed more homogenized.

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Talking about the date though. I'm not really gonna pretend I'm offended since I think for myself on every subject. I have no relations to 9/11 other then being a US citizen. The problem is based on capcoms history; anyone can say "typical capcom". They DON'T give a shit about their consumers and that's fine. Capcom sf never had any class to begin with when compared to their other ips.
Why would they put themselves in situation like this on purpose was my initial thought.. but I do think its a coincidence considering the fact; I don't know any dates for other countries unfortunate problems.
Stereotypes are fine to me but do you really wanna see it with every single character!?! SNK please save us

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 11, 2015 16:00:07 GMT -5 azik21 said:

Talking about the date though. I'm not really gonna pretend I'm offended since I think for myself on every subject. I have no relations to 9/11 other then being a US citizen. The problem is based on capcoms history; anyone can say "typical capcom". They DON'T give a shit about their consumers and that's fine. Capcom sf never had any class to begin with when compared to their other ips.
Why would they put themselves in situation like this on purpose was my initial thought.. but I do think its a coincidence considering the fact; I don't know any dates for other countries unfortunate problems.
Stereotypes are fine to me but do you really wanna see it with every single character!?! SNK please save us

They've been listening much more this time, a business is there to sell products.

What lack of class do you mean?

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Sept 11, 2015 16:31:53 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Sept 11, 2015 16:00:07 GMT -5 azik21 said:

Talking about the date though. I'm not really gonna pretend I'm offended since I think for myself on every subject. I have no relations to 9/11 other then being a US citizen. The problem is based on capcoms history; anyone can say "typical capcom". They DON'T give a shit about their consumers and that's fine. Capcom sf never had any class to begin with when compared to their other ips.
Why would they put themselves in situation like this on purpose was my initial thought.. but I do think its a coincidence considering the fact; I don't know any dates for other countries unfortunate problems.
Stereotypes are fine to me but do you really wanna see it with every single character!?! SNK please save us

They've been listening much more this time, a business is there to sell products.

What lack of class do you mean?

Yup exactly why I said its fine they don't care about the consumers. Street Fighter ip has always been shit imo The sfxtekken situation with half the game locked was the biggest in recent memory.
Besides resident evil games getting worse and worse they still present completed products. Devil May Cry is also consistently good. Street fighter can't even port games properly!! I'd be playing cvs2 right now if it didn't have like 5 frames of lag.... I get that fighters are hard to balance so patches and updates are legit but they seem to never come close to having a full game. Remember that death screen in xbox 360 version of ultra? It ruined so many matches. Did they ever fix the ps4 version to run the game properly yet? I'm just comparing capcom to capcom and I think street fighter is the worst ip.

[Great Dark Hero]

forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/197734/sfv-character-request-anticipation-thread/p83

Quote by Neclord

Ok so TGS will definitely reveal a character as well next weekend:

www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/sep/11/another-street-fighter-5-character-being-announced-next-weekend-tokyo-game-show/

... Something to keep in mind.

And, Rashid looks pretty decent.

EDIT: 
Doesn't matter because I'm guaranteed to main R. Mika. She is practically one of reasons I am paying attention to SFV now.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 11, 2015 18:24:59 GMT -5 azik21 said:

Sept 11, 2015 16:31:53 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

They've been listening much more this time, a business is there to sell products.

What lack of class do you mean?

Yup exactly why I said its fine they don't care about the consumers. Street Fighter ip has always been shit imo The sfxtekken situation with half the game locked was the biggest in recent memory.
Besides resident evil games getting worse and worse they still present completed products. Devil May Cry is also consistently good. Street fighter can't even port games properly!! I'd be playing cvs2 right now if it didn't have like 5 frames of lag.... I get that fighters are hard to balance so patches and updates are legit but they seem to never come close to having a full game. Remember that death screen in xbox 360 version of ultra? It ruined so many matches. Did they ever fix the ps4 version to run the game properly yet? I'm just comparing capcom to capcom and I think street fighter is the worst ip.

How do you judge which companies "care" about you more than others? The people who run the company don't know you from anybody else. They make products that people enjoy and buy like any other business.

The fiasco with the on disc DLC is dumb. Companies can charge what they want for the content they put on a disc, but the really dumb part is people would have just paid for an online DLC for the same price if it wasn't on the disc, so it didn't really matter in the long run. The best way to deal with that is to not buy something if you don't like it, but people felt it was owed to them. It's no different than paying for a cable box and thinking you should get premium service because you get the box. ALL companies (or almost all) make content in advance and sell it later. This isn't a new practice. If there was no DLC, people would complain about that too. The reality is that games cost a lot more to make nowadays and most people would rather spend $60 +$100 in DLC over time vs spending $80 at once because they don't do the math. Buying DLC online or through a disc doesn't matter because you would have paid either way.

Street Fighter has had it's ups and downs no different than SNK and any other company and SNK had horrible netcode with Kof XIII which was inexcusable for this day and age and pretty much killed the game. That said I do hope fighting game developers make good netcode with crossplay a priority to have the best experience possible with the most options.

SF4 is definitely the dark age of Street Fighter. It's the Kof XII essentially. I think the problem is that people have their own bias and can't really be fair. I don't really care about bias. We all have our preferences but I call them like I see them. I like a bit of everything personally.

Capcom's games getting worse is no different than most mainstream stuff getting worse really. That's just the way it is.


The 9/11 stuff is silly and no big deal at all. People who are bothered over that are just being too sensitive or want to be offended.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 11, 2015 18:42:43 GMT -5 Great Dark Hero said:

forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/197734/sfv-character-request-anticipation-thread/p83

Quote by Neclord

Ok so TGS will definitely reveal a character as well next weekend:

www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/sep/11/another-street-fighter-5-character-being-announced-next-weekend-tokyo-game-show/

... Something to keep in mind.

And, Rashid looks pretty decent.

EDIT: 
Doesn't matter because I'm guaranteed to main R. Mika. She is practically one of reasons I am paying attention to SFV now.

I was going to post this but I just got home from being on the road.

I agree, the roster didn't interest me until Mika. I was going to get the game, but now I'm more excited about it.

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Sept 11, 2015 19:57:53 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Sept 11, 2015 18:24:59 GMT -5 azik21 said:

Yup exactly why I said its fine they don't care about the consumers. Street Fighter ip has always been shit imo The sfxtekken situation with half the game locked was the biggest in recent memory.
Besides resident evil games getting worse and worse they still present completed products. Devil May Cry is also consistently good. Street fighter can't even port games properly!! I'd be playing cvs2 right now if it didn't have like 5 frames of lag.... I get that fighters are hard to balance so patches and updates are legit but they seem to never come close to having a full game. Remember that death screen in xbox 360 version of ultra? It ruined so many matches. Did they ever fix the ps4 version to run the game properly yet? I'm just comparing capcom to capcom and I think street fighter is the worst ip.

How do you judge which companies "care" about you more than others. The people who run the company don't know you from anybody else. They make products that people enjoy and buy like any other business.

The fiasco with the on disc DLC is dumb. Companies can charge what they want for the content they put on a disc, but the really dumb part is people would have just paid for an online DLC for the same price if it wasn't on the disc, so it didn't really matter in the long run. The best way to deal with that is to not buy something if you don't like it, but people felt it was owed to them. It's no different than paying for a cable box and thinking you should get premium service because you get the box. ALL companies (or almost all) make content in advance and sell it later. This isn't a new practice. If there was no DLC, people would complain about that too. The reality is that games cost a lot more to make nowadays and most people would rather spend $60 +$100 in DLC over time vs spending $80 at once because they don't do the math. Buying DLC online or through a disc doesn't matter because you would have paid either way.

Street Fighter has had it's ups and downs no different than SNK and any other company and SNK had horrible netcode with Kof XIII which was inexcusable for this day and age and pretty much killed the game. That said I do hope fighting game developers make good netcode with crossplay a priority to have the best experience possible with the most options.

SF4 is definitely the dark age of Street Fighter. It's the Kof XII essentially. I think the problem is that people have their own bias and can't really be fair. I don't really care about bias. We all have our preferences but I call them like I see them. I like a bit of everything personally.

That cable example doesn't really work. They lied about the on disc dlc characters and thats what I don't like at all. The characters were finished even though they claim they weren't. I played with them before the game even came out!! I think I got an idea of why they did it and I can almost agree but they did it wrong. My thought was to avoid another marvel 3. Jill and Shuma will never be played ever again.

Netcode in fighters is still pretty much non-existent. I haven't tried skullgirls on pc yet though and honestly I probably never will.

I'm bias for characters not the game. Its clear as day that sf4 is a mess. Kofxiii is also pretty bad too but at least their games work. I love Capcom but I also hate them soooo much.

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never mind looks like they were also on disc dlc... damn I'm sad

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 11, 2015 21:08:30 GMT -5 azik21 said:

Sept 11, 2015 19:57:53 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

How do you judge which companies "care" about you more than others. The people who run the company don't know you from anybody else. They make products that people enjoy and buy like any other business.

The fiasco with the on disc DLC is dumb. Companies can charge what they want for the content they put on a disc, but the really dumb part is people would have just paid for an online DLC for the same price if it wasn't on the disc, so it didn't really matter in the long run. The best way to deal with that is to not buy something if you don't like it, but people felt it was owed to them. It's no different than paying for a cable box and thinking you should get premium service because you get the box. ALL companies (or almost all) make content in advance and sell it later. This isn't a new practice. If there was no DLC, people would complain about that too. The reality is that games cost a lot more to make nowadays and most people would rather spend $60 +$100 in DLC over time vs spending $80 at once because they don't do the math. Buying DLC online or through a disc doesn't matter because you would have paid either way.

Street Fighter has had it's ups and downs no different than SNK and any other company and SNK had horrible netcode with Kof XIII which was inexcusable for this day and age and pretty much killed the game. That said I do hope fighting game developers make good netcode with crossplay a priority to have the best experience possible with the most options.

SF4 is definitely the dark age of Street Fighter. It's the Kof XII essentially. I think the problem is that people have their own bias and can't really be fair. I don't really care about bias. We all have our preferences but I call them like I see them. I like a bit of everything personally.

That cable example doesn't really work. They lied about the on disc dlc characters and thats what I don't like at all. The characters were finished even though they claim they weren't. I played with them before the game even came out!! I think I got an idea of why they did it and I can almost agree but they did it wrong. My thought was to avoid another marvel 3. Jill and Shuma will never be played ever again.

Netcode in fighters is still pretty much non-existent. I haven't tried skullgirls on pc yet though and honestly I probably never will.

I'm bias for characters not the game. Its clear as day that sf4 is a mess. Kofxiii is also pretty bad too but at least their games work. I love Capcom but I also hate them soooo much.

I recall someone hacking that disc and finding it, and there being a mess because it was "on the disc" in reality being on disc just saves space. No different than a cable box. They are using a new model now so it doesn't matter and yet some still complain.

PS4 Ultra needss to be fixed. This is why I'm not big on buying games right away. Kof XII was bad and XIII got better on Steam. Ultra was worse but improved some.

GGPO and Skullgirls are good though. We need more 3d fighters on PC though. I want VF personally.

The old SF games were much better than for, but Kof was peaking in the past too. Xiii is better than SF4 though.

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Its not even about being a better game its about being a working game. Think about how long it took for them to fix the latest characters in Ultra. Now I know I couldn't make a fighting game but how hard is it to make proper hurt/hit boxes?? They were completely different from every other character in the game. Unblockables were never actually fixed either. Instead lets add delayed wakeup and call it a fix..they should have just made hard knock downs less common. mvc3 being outdated after a few months kinda sucked (luckily never played it till ultimate) I don't wanna go over any reasons that game is broken since I can't even judge it by normal standards; Its pretty much a game to whatever you want lol
I can't think of a single game that had a game breaking glitch that randomly happens and they didn't fix for it for almost a year. Instead their priorities told them to released animal costume dlc. This happened on the 5th version of the same game.... I'm happy they are actually testing their games now though

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 11, 2015 21:54:07 GMT -5 azik21 said:

Its not even about being a better game its about being a working game. Think about how long it took for them to fix the latest characters in Ultra. Now I know I couldn't make a fighting game but how hard is it to make proper hurt/hit boxes?? They were completely different from every other character in the game. Unblockables were never actually fixed either. Instead lets add delayed wakeup and call it a fix..they should have just made hard knock downs less common. mvc3 being outdated after a few months kinda sucked (luckily never played it till ultimate) I don't wanna go over any reasons that game is broken since I can't even judge it by normal standards; Its pretty much a game to whatever you want lol
I can't think of a single game that had a game breaking glitch that randomly happens and they didn't fix for it for almost a year. Instead their priorities told them to released animal costume dlc. This happened on the 5th version of the same game.... I'm happy they are actually testing their games now though

Well I don't know what the heck happened with the PS4 version, but they are working on it. One reason for the decrease in quality is that the game was handled by someone else, so that's a large part of the problem.

DWU was suggested, sadly enough. It's a shame Marvel couldn't be updated and done properly with more love.

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I'll be happy to buy dlc characters day 1. 4? characters is fine even if they are 5-7 bucks each. It was never about the money that gets me mad. We know there is dlc and it will probably be on-disc and that is fine. There isn't a console exclusive involved so I feel like they won't try to pull a fast one again anyways.