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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 22:24:27 GMT -5
Its not even about being a better game its about being a working game. Think about how long it took for them to fix the latest characters in Ultra. Now I know I couldn't make a fighting game but how hard is it to make proper hurt/hit boxes?? They were completely different from every other character in the game. Unblockables were never actually fixed either. Instead lets add delayed wakeup and call it a fix..they should have just made hard knock downs less common. mvc3 being outdated after a few months kinda sucked (luckily never played it till ultimate) I don't wanna go over any reasons that game is broken since I can't even judge it by normal standards; Its pretty much a game to whatever you want lol I can't think of a single game that had a game breaking glitch that randomly happens and they didn't fix for it for almost a year. Instead their priorities told them to released animal costume dlc. This happened on the 5th version of the same game.... I'm happy they are actually testing their games now though Well I don't know what the heck happened with the PS4 version, but they are working on it. One reason for the decrease in quality is that the game was handled by someone else, so that's a large part of the problem. DWU was suggested, sadly enough. It's a shame Marvel couldn't be updated and done properly with more love. That is still Capcoms responsibility. Everyone knew they were dumb to hire people known for bad port to port it. I don't get how laggy menus and laggy input ever got past test stages.. capcom pro tour maybe? I think dwu was suggested because they knew they couldn't fix the core problem of the game. To bad they didn't add an indicator saying cross up or not. Marvel is just perfect how it is now except No Jill and Shuma ever again... I think I like how broken it is since its not suppose to be a serious fighter anyways
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 11, 2015 22:43:43 GMT -5
I'll be happy to buy dlc characters day 1. 4? characters is fine even if they are 5-7 bucks each. It was never about the money that gets me mad. We know there is dlc and it will probably be on-disc and that is fine. There isn't a console exclusive involved so I feel like they won't try to pull a fast one again anyways. I'm not understanding what the fast one was. Someone hacked the disc and found the characters. If anything *they* pulled the fast one. People were mad because they felt like they were being forced to pay for content that was already "theirs" which wasn't the case. People knew there was going to be DLC they would have to pay for so it's irrelevant anyways. They weren't cheated out of anything unless they promised more characters in the base game and then lied or something. At which point you just don't buy the game, problem solved. They definitely should have handled Ultra themselves. The issues with the quality really show. The game had all kinds of awful glitches and it's unprofessional. I care more about game design than silly squabbling over SJW stuff or DLC. The broken nature of the game is a valid point.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 22:49:06 GMT -5
I'll be happy to buy dlc characters day 1. 4? characters is fine even if they are 5-7 bucks each. It was never about the money that gets me mad. We know there is dlc and it will probably be on-disc and that is fine. There isn't a console exclusive involved so I feel like they won't try to pull a fast one again anyways. I'm not understanding what the fast one was. Someone hacked the disc and found the characters. If anything *they* pulled the fast one. People were mad because they felt like they were being forced to pay for content that was already "theirs" which wasn't the case. People knew there was going to be DLC they would have to pay for so it's irrelevant anyways. They weren't cheated out of anything unless they promised more characters in the base game and then lied or something. At which point you just don't buy the game, problem solved. They definitely should have handled Ultra themselves. The issues with the quality really show. The game had all kinds of awful glitches and it's unprofessional. I care more about game design than silly squabbling over SJW stuff or DLC. The broken nature of the game is a valid point. Don't you remember they withheld the content since they wanted the psp version to be the full version
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 11, 2015 22:56:59 GMT -5
I'm not understanding what the fast one was. Someone hacked the disc and found the characters. If anything *they* pulled the fast one. People were mad because they felt like they were being forced to pay for content that was already "theirs" which wasn't the case. People knew there was going to be DLC they would have to pay for so it's irrelevant anyways. They weren't cheated out of anything unless they promised more characters in the base game and then lied or something. At which point you just don't buy the game, problem solved. They definitely should have handled Ultra themselves. The issues with the quality really show. The game had all kinds of awful glitches and it's unprofessional. I care more about game design than silly squabbling over SJW stuff or DLC. The broken nature of the game is a valid point. Don't you remember they withheld the content since they wanted the psp version to be the full version This is the gist of what I recall: www.cinemablend.com/games/Capcom-Gets-Busted-Disc-DLC-Discovered-Street-Fighter-X-Tekken-40114.htmlHandhelds often get an updated release later down the line, but people were complaining that it was already on the disc. In other words they thought they shouldn't have to pay for it since they bought the disc. Hell that's all people complained about. I bought it when the price went down. It was ok in some areas but lacking in others.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 23:13:13 GMT -5
Don't you remember they withheld the content since they wanted the psp version to be the full version This is the gist of what I recall: www.cinemablend.com/games/Capcom-Gets-Busted-Disc-DLC-Discovered-Street-Fighter-X-Tekken-40114.htmlHandhelds often get an updated release later down the line, but people were complaining that it was already on the disc. In other words they thought they shouldn't have to pay for it since they bought the disc. Hell that's all people complained about. I bought it when the price went down. It was ok in some areas but lacking in others. 12 characters that are already completed and on the disc does seem pretty unfair for people that bought the console version though. psp version didn't come out until many months after and they wanted you to buy that version to play the "new" characters before console. I agree with trying to sell the psp version with a gimmick but I just can't believe they locked 1/3 of a game. As I said before the price wasn't the issue it was the excessive amount of the game they locked.
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Post by WarMachineRhodey on Sept 11, 2015 23:41:48 GMT -5
Yup exactly why I said its fine they don't care about the consumers. Street Fighter ip has always been shit imo The sfxtekken situation with half the game locked was the biggest in recent memory. Besides resident evil games getting worse and worse they still present completed products. Devil May Cry is also consistently good. Street fighter can't even port games properly!! I'd be playing cvs2 right now if it didn't have like 5 frames of lag.... I get that fighters are hard to balance so patches and updates are legit but they seem to never come close to having a full game. Remember that death screen in xbox 360 version of ultra? It ruined so many matches. Did they ever fix the ps4 version to run the game properly yet? I'm just comparing capcom to capcom and I think street fighter is the worst ip. How do you judge which companies "care" about you more than others? The people who run the company don't know you from anybody else. They make products that people enjoy and buy like any other business. The fiasco with the on disc DLC is dumb. Companies can charge what they want for the content they put on a disc, but the really dumb part is people would have just paid for an online DLC for the same price if it wasn't on the disc, so it didn't really matter in the long run. The best way to deal with that is to not buy something if you don't like it, but people felt it was owed to them. It's no different than paying for a cable box and thinking you should get premium service because you get the box. ALL companies (or almost all) make content in advance and sell it later. This isn't a new practice. If there was no DLC, people would complain about that too. The reality is that games cost a lot more to make nowadays and most people would rather spend $60 +$100 in DLC over time vs spending $80 at once because they don't do the math. Buying DLC online or through a disc doesn't matter because you would have paid either way. Street Fighter has had it's ups and downs no different than SNK and any other company and SNK had horrible netcode with Kof XIII which was inexcusable for this day and age and pretty much killed the game. That said I do hope fighting game developers make good netcode with crossplay a priority to have the best experience possible with the most options. SF4 is definitely the dark age of Street Fighter. It's the Kof XII essentially. I think the problem is that people have their own bias and can't really be fair. I don't really care about bias. We all have our preferences but I call them like I see them. I like a bit of everything personally. Capcom's games getting worse is no different than most mainstream stuff getting worse really. That's just the way it is. The 9/11 stuff is silly and no big deal at all. People who are bothered over that are just being too sensitive or want to be offended. You know your game's netcode is bad when the japanese say its unplayable lol.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 0:44:10 GMT -5
It almost like they didn't even try. I remember when it came out I wanted to play a friend who lives a few miles away. Both of us wired connection and the best internet you can get in my area. (Google Fiber coming to my city next year and somehow I'm excited) Obviously we got a 4 bar connection and we didn't expect it to be perfect but it was an underwater connection. I'd say a 4 bar on console was like a 1 bar on steam. Until there's a lagless netcode Kof will forever be unplayable online sadly. Its too much of a reaction based game.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 12, 2015 2:22:01 GMT -5
Then how does Skullgirls have good netcode? GGPO and Supercade do too. Steam Kof XIII was actually decent. It wasn't amazing but if you had a good connection it was playable. SF4 used to be solid when it was AE on PC especially. Good netcode can be done. Yes due to the US infrastructure and size it will be harder to implement than in Japan, but it'll constantly improve. I can't wait for the day when I can play anywhere on the road and it be like playing next to the person. I know people who live in cities or in places like Socal don't realize this, but 99% of us simply aren't driving or traveling way out of the way to "level up". We don't care about fighting games THAT much, we have lives and jobs/careers, and it simply isn't worth the time and effort. We don't care about being "pro players" by playing 70 hours a week to earn a shot to win an amount of money we could have earned at a crappy job and it would have been GUARANTEED, and not based on chance. These are the same people I'm sure will spend 100's of hours grinding instead of just buying the content for $5. Get a job at McDonalds or something. That's just a message to those annoying group of people who talk about the offline "community" and how we should all be meeting up to play. I want to play in the comfort of my home and/ or on the road. Screw that. People also need to stop playing wirelessly and downloading porn for Christ's sake. Check the ping fools! 12 characters that are already completed and on the disc does seem pretty unfair for people that bought the console version though. psp version didn't come out until many months after and they wanted you to buy that version to play the "new" characters before console. I agree with trying to sell the psp version with a gimmick but I just can't believe they locked 1/3 of a game. As I said before the price wasn't the issue it was the excessive amount of the game they locked. Wait how is that unfair? They didn't promise anything other than what they delivered. Someone hacked the content and then said they deserved more. People will always try to justifty why they deserve something with all kidns of reasoning. Handhelds often get extra stuff because they come out later and you can't even use arcade sticks or anything else with them. That said consoles sucks anyways, get with the programs people.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 12, 2015 12:04:08 GMT -5
www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/sep/12/street-fighter-5-gameplay-footage-dubai-games-15-shows-new-fighter-rashid-action/While we just found out about Rashid yesterday, plenty of people are getting their hands on the character at Dubai Games 15, and a couple of videos showing him in action have surfaced for our viewing pleasure.
Though these matches aren't what one would call "high level", they do a good job of showcasing Rashid's different moves, a couple of his target combos, and a general idea of how some of his moves work. We also see some usage of both of his V-Skills.
For anyone hungry for footage of Rashid, these videos will definitely help take the edge off as we wait to see more of the Middle Eastern fighter. As people get to work with him, we'll definitely begin to see more explorative footage.
Hit the jump to check the videos out.
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Post by WarMachineRhodey on Sept 12, 2015 12:46:18 GMT -5
Then how does Skullgirls have good netcode? GGPO and Supercade do too. Steam Kof XIII was actually decent. It wasn't amazing but if you had a good connection it was playable. SF4 used to be solid when it was AE on PC especially. Good netcode can be done. Yes due to the US infrastructure and size it will be harder to implement than in Japan, but it'll constantly improve. I can't wait for the day when I can play anywhere on the road and it be like playing next to the person. I know people who live in cities or in places like Socal don't realize this, but 99% of us simply aren't driving or traveling way out of the way to "level up". We don't care about fighting games THAT much, we have lives and jobs/careers, and it simply isn't worth the time and effort. We don't care about being "pro players" by playing 70 hours a week to earn a shot to win an amount of money we could have earned at a crappy job and it would have been GUARANTEED, and not based on chance. These are the same people I'm sure will spend 100's of hours grinding instead of just buying the content for $5. Get a job at McDonalds or something. That's just a message to those annoying group of people who talk about the offline "community" and how we should all be meeting up to play. I want to play in the comfort of my home and/ or on the road. Screw that. People also need to stop playing wirelessly and downloading porn for Christ's sake. Check the ping fools! Its going to be a very long time before the internet infrastructure in the USA improves enough to play fighting games online. The main obstacle that has been holding back the internet is the monopolies and the politicians that are bought by these monopolies plus the slowing economy. The offline communities are not going away anytime soon also but they need to realize that the economy is still in terrible shape so people have less money to spend on perusing their hobbies. Luckily i live in a big city that has an active community plus the 2 places to play are around 15-30 mins away from where i live. I wouldnt dare drive out 2+hrs every week just to play street fighter. Even those who are sponsored still have to have a regular job in order to pay their bills and other expenses.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 12, 2015 13:28:40 GMT -5
Then how does Skullgirls have good netcode? GGPO and Supercade do too. Steam Kof XIII was actually decent. It wasn't amazing but if you had a good connection it was playable. SF4 used to be solid when it was AE on PC especially. Good netcode can be done. Yes due to the US infrastructure and size it will be harder to implement than in Japan, but it'll constantly improve. I can't wait for the day when I can play anywhere on the road and it be like playing next to the person. I know people who live in cities or in places like Socal don't realize this, but 99% of us simply aren't driving or traveling way out of the way to "level up". We don't care about fighting games THAT much, we have lives and jobs/careers, and it simply isn't worth the time and effort. We don't care about being "pro players" by playing 70 hours a week to earn a shot to win an amount of money we could have earned at a crappy job and it would have been GUARANTEED, and not based on chance. These are the same people I'm sure will spend 100's of hours grinding instead of just buying the content for $5. Get a job at McDonalds or something. That's just a message to those annoying group of people who talk about the offline "community" and how we should all be meeting up to play. I want to play in the comfort of my home and/ or on the road. Screw that. People also need to stop playing wirelessly and downloading porn for Christ's sake. Check the ping fools! Its going to be a very long time before the internet infrastructure in the USA improves enough to play fighting games online. The main obstacle that has been holding back the internet is the monopolies and the politicians that are bought by these monopolies plus the slowing economy. The offline communities are not going away anytime soon also but they need to realize that the economy is still in terrible shape so people have less money to spend on perusing their hobbies. Luckily i live in a big city that has an active community plus the 2 places to play are around 15-30 mins away from where i live. I wouldnt dare drive out 2+hrs every week just to play street fighter. Even those who are sponsored still have to have a regular job in order to pay their bills and other expenses. Exactly, we might not see that for another decade, if not more. Thanks big government. I have no problem with people playing offline or anything of the sort. Great for them and they get to enjoy that. I've just heard people say dumb things like "good netcode is bad for the community because it hurts the scene". WTF? Most people don't care about the "scene" and want to be able to play in their boxers when they get home from work. Especially people who have other priorities. Most of these people who do this are usually late teens and early twenties with their parents footing the bill. That's why they don't care about going out of their way to play offline so much because they have a lot of free time and no costs. And yea, the only people who make enough money to pursue this full time have endorsements as well. Like maybe Wong or Daigo. Most people don't have that and they think they will by playing all day and doing nothing else. It's unrealistic, I mean pro sports has more people making WAY more money, and other genres pay better too. If I was only 15 minutes away from an event that would be different. That's like a Wal Mart drive to me. But 2+ hours? Not a chance.
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Post by WarMachineRhodey on Sept 12, 2015 14:01:48 GMT -5
I've just heard people say dumb things like "good netcode is bad for the community because it hurts the scene". WTF? Most people don't care about the "scene" and want to be able to play in their boxers when they get home from work. Who or What website did you see someone say "good netcode is bad for the community because it hurts the scene".
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 12, 2015 14:19:35 GMT -5
I've just heard people say dumb things like "good netcode is bad for the community because it hurts the scene". WTF? Most people don't care about the "scene" and want to be able to play in their boxers when they get home from work. Who or What website did you see someone say "good netcode is bad for the community because it hurts the scene". It was back when rollback netcode was being discussed for an anime fighter, that or it was Blazblue and people enjoying the netcode with online tournaments. People were upset about this because it was hurting "the scene" since people don't need to show up in person with really good netcode. I've talked to people who have said this and I've seen it on a few sites at one point or another. I know I've seen it on Gfaqs, and I believe SRK and eventhubs. Guess I shouldn't be too surprised though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 15:10:43 GMT -5
Its going to be a very long time before the internet infrastructure in the USA improves enough to play fighting games online. The main obstacle that has been holding back the internet is the monopolies and the politicians that are bought by these monopolies plus the slowing economy. The offline communities are not going away anytime soon also but they need to realize that the economy is still in terrible shape so people have less money to spend on perusing their hobbies. Luckily i live in a big city that has an active community plus the 2 places to play are around 15-30 mins away from where i live. I wouldnt dare drive out 2+hrs every week just to play street fighter. Even those who are sponsored still have to have a regular job in order to pay their bills and other expenses. Exactly, we might not see that for another decade, if not more. Thanks big government. I have no problem with people playing offline or anything of the sort. Great for them and they get to enjoy that. I've just heard people say dumb things like "good netcode is bad for the community because it hurts the scene". WTF? Most people don't care about the "scene" and want to be able to play in their boxers when they get home from work. Especially people who have other priorities. Most of these people who do this are usually late teens and early twenties with their parents footing the bill. That's why they don't care about going out of their way to play offline so much because they have a lot of free time and no costs. And yea, the only people who make enough money to pursue this full time have endorsements as well. Like maybe Wong or Daigo. Most people don't have that and they think they will by playing all day and doing nothing else. It's unrealistic, I mean pro sports has more people making WAY more money, and other genres pay better too. If I was only 15 minutes away from an event that would be different. That's like a Wal Mart drive to me. But 2+ hours? Not a chance. I wouldn't know about skullgirls...kinda wish I did but I could never play it more the 10 mins when I bought it. I was gonna buy it again when I upgraded my pc but then I found out steam had an outdated version :/ The thing I don't like about online play is how auto pilot and guess heavy games tend to be played. Its like the best way to win online is to just commit to doing stuff based on a guess. Stuff like countering kims far D with a reaction mid is impossible online. I have a community pretty close but I made everyone quit Kof so there's no reason to even play offline anymore.. Only time I play fighters is at a friends house. I think the whole support your scene is one of the dumbest things ever. ITS A VIDEO GAME!!!! How about people start saying support your local food banks. Justin Wong doesn't make money from winning; he lives of donations and twitch subscribers.... I'm gonna be real here when I say I hate the fighting game community as a whole. I made many friends but most of the people that go to events are kind of jerks. I've see physical fights breakout and grown men having temper tantrums.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 12, 2015 15:38:05 GMT -5
Exactly, we might not see that for another decade, if not more. Thanks big government. I have no problem with people playing offline or anything of the sort. Great for them and they get to enjoy that. I've just heard people say dumb things like "good netcode is bad for the community because it hurts the scene". WTF? Most people don't care about the "scene" and want to be able to play in their boxers when they get home from work. Especially people who have other priorities. Most of these people who do this are usually late teens and early twenties with their parents footing the bill. That's why they don't care about going out of their way to play offline so much because they have a lot of free time and no costs. And yea, the only people who make enough money to pursue this full time have endorsements as well. Like maybe Wong or Daigo. Most people don't have that and they think they will by playing all day and doing nothing else. It's unrealistic, I mean pro sports has more people making WAY more money, and other genres pay better too. If I was only 15 minutes away from an event that would be different. That's like a Wal Mart drive to me. But 2+ hours? Not a chance. I wouldn't know about skullgirls...kinda wish I did but I could never play it more the 10 mins when I bought it. I was gonna buy it again when I upgraded my pc but then I found out steam had an outdated version :/ The thing I don't like about online play is how auto pilot and guess heavy games tend to be played. Its like the best way to win online is to just commit to doing stuff based on a guess. Stuff like countering kims far D with a reaction mid is impossible online. I have a community pretty close but I made everyone quit Kof so there's no reason to even play offline anymore.. Only time I play fighters is at a friends house. I think the whole support your scene is one of the dumbest things ever. ITS A VIDEO GAME!!!! How about people start saying support your local food banks. Justin Wong doesn't make money from winning; he lives of donations and twitch subscribers.... I'm gonna be real here when I say I hate the fighting game community as a whole. I made many friends but most of the people that go to events are kind of jerks. I've see physical fights breakout and grown men having temper tantrums. Killer Instinct also has wonderful netcode, but yea with lag stuff becomes annoying like hop CD. Kof just died out, I had many friends experience that so you shouldn't be so hard on yourself. I just want to have a good time and get skilled. These people need to support themselves and get a job instead of laying around on their ass trying to be a "pro gamer". I thought Wong had endorsements. I don't care for sitting around and begging for money while playing video games, but if people are willing to give it up to be entertained that's on them. You're right about the behavior of the FGC. People are immature and reckless. Stealing and fighting, and not to mention people scamming others out of rooms and other shameful low class behavior. People getting mad over small amounts of money and bragging about winning $50. That's why I made the thread "Are Fighting Games a Poor Man's Genre". thacmaster.proboards.com/thread/2591/fighting-games-poor-mans-genre Shame more people didn't post there. You sound like Jack though, lol. Same thing he says.
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 12, 2015 15:43:28 GMT -5
www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/sep/11/street-fighter-5-being-localized-arabic-sony-partnership-key-rashids-development/With Rashid's announcement taking the Street Fighter 5 world by storm today, there was some equally vital and interesting news brought about by the event in Dubai. Yoshinori Ono also announced that Street Fighter 5 will be textually localized in Arabic, a first for Capcom as a whole, and how this development came to be.
IGN sat down with Ono to discuss Capcom's efforts to support the region, and the difficulties of creating Rashid for a company with very little experience with Middle Eastern properties.
It turns out Capcom's Sony partnership once more gave them a lot of leverage, with Sony introducing them to Pluto Games, their Middle Eastern distributor, to guide them in designing Rashid and localizing Street Fighter 5 in Arabic. Yoshinori Ono makes sure to note the gratitude Capcom and the Street Fighter brand has for the support they've received from the Middle Eastern community. "Thank you so much for your support for the Street Fighter series", he says, "it’s always been great for me to see all the events and fighting game community stuff that goes on in the Middle East and of course I’ve had lots of you invite me to come play with you over the years".
Ono encourages players to pick up the character and "try and make him the best Street Fighter character out there", as well as ensure that they have fun with him. It would seem a lot of work and dedication went into fleshing out Rashid and making him a reality.
He also touches a bit more on how difficult it was for Capcom to conceptualize Rashid at first. Ono stated "that it was a challenge at first to figure out how this character looks and what kind of moves would be suited to him as Capcom does not have many Middle Eastern employees". The relationship between Sony and Pluto Games was key for Capcom to envision how they wanted to go about making Rashid come to life.
In the end, it seems Rashid is more than just a new character, symbolizing a growing relationship between Capcom, Street Fighter, and the Middle Eastern fighting game community. Hopefully this will lead to more events, player representation, and international competition from the players in the region.
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 12, 2015 16:06:07 GMT -5
^Thanks for the edit C. Great Dark Hero and Myself have some qualms with the FGC community. Really bad all around which is why I stopped playing hardcore, now I guess I'm midcore player
BTW, you guy's heard of Ken Boagard? He's the guy that provides accurate leaks for SFV and SFIV. He leaked Rashid and Necalli way before they were announced. Here's his leaked character list:
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 12, 2015 16:15:21 GMT -5
^Thanks for the edit C. Great Dark Hero and Myself have some qualms with the FGC community. Really bad all around which is why I stopped playing hardcore, now I guess I'm midcore player
BTW, you guy's heard of Ken Boagard? He's the guy that provides accurate leaks for SFV and SFIV. He leaked Rashid and Necalli way before they were announced. Here's his leaked character list:
Necalli Rashid Laura Zen
Sorry, I meant to post that and not edit you. My bad. . It's cool either way. I posted those leaks along with the Karin, Mika, Urien, and Alex "leak". If both are true then that means that's the cast. We'll see though. You care about being good but you don't live and die for it. I have to look at some of GDH's posts on his thoughts. I know he said he plays live, but I don't think it's life and death for him either.
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 12, 2015 16:21:44 GMT -5
That and Street Fighter isn't top tier fighter anyway these days. I still like it and play it, but let's be honest there are much better fighters Metagame wise. But, SFV hype is fun and it's nostalgic.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 16:27:21 GMT -5
Anyone else ever experience "top player privilege" in the fgc? If you don't even know what it is then heres my story. I remember one of the best kof players in the country roomed with my group from Friday - Sunday for a major. Now its time for everyone to pay back the person who got the room. When asked for his money he replied "I didn't think that I'd have to pay. I had plenty of other people who offered me a free stay but I wanted to stay with you guys since I like you guys".
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 12, 2015 16:33:49 GMT -5
That story with Romance? That's just low down. Did you hear about Wolfkrone and Justin supposedly splitting the plot when Krone screwed him? That and Street Fighter isn't top tier fighter anyway these days. I still like it and play it, but let's be honest there are much better fighters Metagame wise. But, SFV hype is fun and it's nostalgic. What games do you think beat it out now? I always felt they were overrated somewhat. Third strike fanboys are driving me crazy now by saying 3s sold higher than pretty much any SF and how it's just *perfect*. Ugh.
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 12, 2015 16:42:09 GMT -5
3S sales are unknown, but the console ports are under 1 million. SF Alpha 3 is right around that and sold better basically. SF3 fanboys are retards, but fanboys in general suck. HF is the perfect Street Fighter, these guys are delusional.
I think Virtua Fighter is the best right now. 2-D, I'm not sure since I don't like the direction 2-D fighters have been going with all the air-dash fighters. 3-D fighting games are underrated, though.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 12, 2015 16:48:35 GMT -5
3S sales are unknown, but the console ports are under 1 million. SF Alpha 3 is right around that and sold better basically. SF3 fanboys are retards, but fanboys in general suck. HF is the perfect Street Fighter, these guys are delusional. I think Virtua Fighter is the best right now. 2-D, I'm not sure since I don't like the direction 2-D fighters have been going with all the air-dash fighters. 3-D fighting games are underrated, though. Yea SFA3 had sooooooo many ports. I wish the PSP version was on PC. I would love to play CvS2 and SFA3 on Steam. I don't know why SF3S fanboys just can't admit anything wrong with the game. People who play SF2, SFA3, CvS2,etc, can admit those games had their issues, but with 3s the people just act like the game was perfect in every way. They're saying nobody liked Alpha characters when people requested Karin and said that Twelve is in higher demand. What? And yea Virtua Fighter is about mechanically perfect. No real bs and I know when I'm playing it's me and my opponent without the BS and gimmicks present in other games. Probably why it doesn't sell lol. Thy might have to add the fanservice next time.
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 12, 2015 17:01:32 GMT -5
Twelve requested more than Karin? lol, okay. I think it's a hipster thing, because for a long time SF3 series was the black sheep of SF. Alot of people when SF4 came out decided to latch on to it as to stand out from the 09ers. I hate these contrarian movements where because one group of people latch on to a game [09ers and SF4] another group decides to do the opposite. Most of these turds haven't even played SF3. I hate poseurs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 17:01:32 GMT -5
That story with Romance? That's just low down. Did you hear about Wolfkrone and Justin supposedly splitting the plot when Krone screwed him? That and Street Fighter isn't top tier fighter anyway these days. I still like it and play it, but let's be honest there are much better fighters Metagame wise. But, SFV hype is fun and it's nostalgic. What games do you think beat it out now? I always felt they were overrated somewhat. Third strike fanboys are driving me crazy now by saying 3s sold higher than pretty much any SF and how it's just *perfect*. Ugh. yeah and I forgot to mention he never did pay. The dude won kof the day before too. The wolfkrone Justin thing is a very funny story. Justin should have won if he wanted more money. Pretty dick move but its on Justin for trusting a stranger in the first place. Why purposely make it so you don't have to try your best? I thought the point of tournaments is the best player that day will win. They had the "wong factor" and now theres the "karma factor". Thats just me though. I can be pretty competitive with every single thing that can have a winner. I'm having a contest with my all my siblings to see who can make the best cake. I never baked a cake in my life and I'm confident I will win. True story. Lucky for me my true hobbies don't have a competitive nature lol. Street Fighter 4 and even super street fighter 4 were top tier fighters before everyone found all the broken stuff. I never agreed with how unbalanced the series was but I felt those were good games at the time. Its impossible for 3s to have sold more then any sf game.
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 12, 2015 17:03:18 GMT -5
I never liked SF4 at the time, it's only recently I could tolerate it.
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Post by WarMachineRhodey on Sept 12, 2015 17:07:58 GMT -5
Anyone else ever experience "top player privilege" in the fgc? If you don't even know what it is then heres my story. I remember one of the best kof players in the country roomed with my group from Friday - Sunday for a major. Now its time for everyone to pay back the person who got the room. When asked for his money he replied "I didn't think that I'd have to pay. I had plenty of other people who offered me a free stay but I wanted to stay with you guys since I like you guys". Damn lol. Well tbh if I was the guy who got the room I would have asked for the money up front. There isn't going to be some "hey man I'll pay you in a few days" bs going about especially from some person who i don't know very well. He had to make up that story about people offering him free places to stay but turned them down because he liked the guy better.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 12, 2015 17:23:41 GMT -5
Twelve requested more than Karin? lol, okay. I think it's a hipster thing, because for a long time SF3 series was the black sheep of SF. Alot of people when SF4 came out decided to latch on to it as to stand out from the 09ers. I hate these contrarian movements where because one group of people latch on to a game [09ers and SF4] another group decides to do the opposite. Most of these turds haven't even played SF3. I hate poseurs. That's what I mean. Most of these clowns just hurt the FGC by lying and trying to fit in. They don't want to be seen as scrubs so how do they gain cred? "3S is the best game ever and it's perfectly balanced." Jesus. It's exactly what the SJW's do. These anti movements are just as annoying as the movements. The only third strike they had was in their bedroom all alone. Tired of these clowns. That story with Romance? That's just low down. Did you hear about Wolfkrone and Justin supposedly splitting the plot when Krone screwed him? What games do you think beat it out now? I always felt they were overrated somewhat. Third strike fanboys are driving me crazy now by saying 3s sold higher than pretty much any SF and how it's just *perfect*. Ugh. yeah and I forgot to mention he never did pay. The dude won kof the day before too. The wolfkrone Justin thing is a very funny story. Justin should have won if he wanted more money. Pretty dick move but its on Justin for trusting a stranger in the first place. Why purposely make it so you don't have to try your best? I thought the point of tournaments is the best player that day will win. They had the "wong factor" and now theres the "karma factor". Thats just me though. I can be pretty competitive with every single thing that can have a winner. I'm having a contest with my all my siblings to see who can make the best cake. I never baked a cake in my life and I'm confident I will win. True story. Lucky for me my true hobbies don't have a competitive nature lol. Street Fighter 4 and even super street fighter 4 were top tier fighters before everyone found all the broken stuff. I never agreed with how unbalanced the series was but I felt those were good games at the time. Its impossible for 3s to have sold more then any sf game. Yea that's low down move. Yea it's best to do your best and win. These pot splitters end up sand bagging anyways. Wolfkrone is none for being a dick though. You do like to compete. I've always been more about competing with myself and getting better. I've just known too many people who get mad and try to one up you in *everything* since they're insecure. That's annoying. I think SF4 was definitely a step down from the others from the get go. I'm a CvS2 man myself. Anyone else ever experience "top player privilege" in the fgc? If you don't even know what it is then heres my story. I remember one of the best kof players in the country roomed with my group from Friday - Sunday for a major. Now its time for everyone to pay back the person who got the room. When asked for his money he replied "I didn't think that I'd have to pay. I had plenty of other people who offered me a free stay but I wanted to stay with you guys since I like you guys". Damn lol. Well tbh if I was the guy who got the room I would have asked for the money up front. There isn't going to be some "hey man I'll pay you in a few days" bs going about especially from some person who i don't know very well. He had to make up that story about people offering him free places to stay but turned them down because he liked the guy better. Who else does this other than a loser? I mean let's be honest. If you actually spent more time making a real living you wouldn't have to scum people out of a few dollars. Just like these people stealing controllers and cameras for a few hundred bucks. Seriously? Let's have some class folks.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 17:45:30 GMT -5
Beating someone else starts with beating yourself since they are above you already. Its more like motivation to me. Having the confidence you can do better then someone else is never a bad thing if you don't do it in a negative way! If someone does something better then me I can still appreciate what they achieved too but at the same time try and be better then them.
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 12, 2015 17:58:00 GMT -5
I like picking games apart and how they play more so than challenging myself. That's why things like match ups and how techniques work or more interesting to me than just being good.
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