Spider-Man Back With Marvel. New Movie 2017!

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

This means he'll be in Avengers movie!

variety.com/2015/film/news/spider-man-marvel-sony-movies-1201429508/

Peter Parker is returning to Marvel. (Or will it be Miles Morales?)

In a reboot of the “Spider-Man” franchise, Sony Pictures Entertainment has announced a new partnership with Marvel Studios that brings the popular superhero into the Marvel universe.

A new Spider-Man film will hit theaters on July 28, 2017.

Sony has owned the feature rights to comic book character since 1999, when Marvel sold them for $7 million.

According to the deal, Sony and Marvel will cast a new Spidey after Andrew Garfield starred in the last two films, “The Amazing Spider-Man” and “The Amazing Spider-Man 2.” Tobey Maguire played Peter Parker in the previous three installments for Sony.

Marvel’s Kevin Feige will produce the rebooted Spider-Man with Amy Pascal, who recently stepped down as co-chairman of Sony in a new producer deal. She oversaw the $4 billion Spider-Man franchise for over 13 years at the studio.

SEE MORE:Why Sony Called in Marvel’s Big Gun to Reboot ‘Spider-Man’

Sony will continue to distribute, finance, own and have final creative control of the Spider-Man pics.

They’ll work with Marvel, owned by Disney, to weave Spider-Man’s character into Marvel’s upcoming superhero films, which includes the popular franchise “The Avengers.”

As Variety previously reported, Marvel plans on bringing the Civil War storyline from the comic books to launch the next phase of films. It’s very likely that Spider-Man will make his first appearance in “Captain America: Civil War” next year.

SEE MORE:Robert Downey Jr. to Join ‘Captain America 3′ (EXCLUSIVE)

To make room for Spider-Man, Disney has rescheduled a number of Marvel tentpoles, including “Thor: Ragnorak,” which was originally planned to open on the July 28, 2017 date. It moves to Nov. 3, 2017. “Black Panther,” which had the Nov. 3 date, will now move up to July 6, 2017.

Marvel’s “Inhumans,” meanwhile, has now moved back to summer 2019 while “Captain Marvel” moves back to Nov. 2018.

Bob Iger, Chairman and CEO, The Walt Disney Company said in a statement: “Spider-Man is one of Marvel’s great characters, beloved around the world. We’re thrilled to work with Sony Pictures to bring the iconic web-slinger into the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which opens up fantastic new opportunities for storytelling and franchise building.”

“I am thrilled to team with my friends at Sony Pictures along with Amy Pascal to produce the next Spider-Man movie,” said Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige. “Amy has been deeply involved in the realization on film of one of the world’s most beloved characters. Marvel’s involvement will hopefully deliver the creative continuity and authenticity that fans demand from the MCU.”Sony chairman Michael Lynton added: “This is the right decision for the franchise, for our business, for Marvel, and for the fans.”

Further details of the agreement are unknown.

The deal comes after a turbulent few months for Sony. The Culver City-based studio was recently the victim of a massive cyber-attack by North Korea in what devolved into a financial and publicity nightmare. And just last week, it was announced that Pascal — its veteran exec and face of the studio — would be stepping aside.“I have always wanted to be a producer,” she said at the time. “I have spent almost my entire professional life at Sony Pictures and I am energized to be starting this new chapter based at the company I call home.”

[JACK-2]

Another reboot, great. I think after 2020 when they're done rebooting everything. I'm gonna stop watching Hollywood movies.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Feb 10, 2015 23:32:48 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Another reboot, great. I think after 2020 when they're done rebooting everything. I'm gonna stop watching Hollywood movies.

Seems like a new franchise is in order since it's going to a different entity.

Also Amazing Spider-Man 2 was "eh". They usually don't improve past that point./

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

This article explains things well:

www.theverge.com/2015/2/10/8010659/spider-man-rights-sony-marvel-studios-new-movie

Sony has one of the greatest comic book superheroes of all time, and it was screwing everything up.

Last year's Amazing Spider-Man 2 wasn't a box office disaster, but it made notably less money than any of Sony's other Spider-Man films. Critically, it was a mess. And this was supposed to be the film that would kick off its own series of interconnected sequels and spinoffs.

Enter Marvel, the company that birthed Spider-Man. Last night, the two studios announced a collaboration that ostensibly brings the web slinger into Marvel’s ultra-successful, highly interconnected film universe for the very first time — all the while Sony gets to revitalize its franchise with help from someone who knows how to make a superhero movie that's does well with both critics and the box office.

On paper, it feels like an obvious win-win for everyone involved, but it’s impossible to understate just how surprising this deal is — and what it means for Marvel going forward.

How Spidey Got Here

So why does Sony, not Marvel, own the film rights to one of Marvel's biggest characters? This is where things get a bit confusing, so before we dive in, here's a fancy chart to help:

Marvel rights (1334 wide jpg) credit geek twins
(Image via The Geek Twins)
Back in the '90s, before Marvel Studios became the juggernaut it is today, the company sold the exclusive movie rights to a number of its biggest comic book characters to other studios. Up until now, Spider-Man could fight alongside Captain America in pages, but on screen, those two properties were worlds apart.

It's been a jumbled mess, but over the years Marvel Studios has managed to get some of its characters back (see: Blade, Daredevil, Black Panther). The biggest holdout is 20th Century Fox, which owns X-Men, the Fantastic Four, the term "mutant," and all related characters including Deadpool. (The only overlaps, due to some story weirdness, are Quiksilver and the Scarlet Witch.) Don't expect these universes to collide, however: Fox has fared much better with its Marvel superhero film rights, especially after the not-quite-reboot that was Bryan Singer's X-Men: Days of Future Past, which ended up being both a critical and commercial success.

Marvel Spider-Man Avengers comic promo
What happens now?

Neither Sony nor Marvel is explicitly calling this a reboot, but it's clear that's what "new creative direction" means. It's also a necessity for this deal to work. Marvel Studios’ films all exist in the same interconnected universe. The consequences of one film affect all of them — for example, every film after The Avengers had to acknowledge that in 2012, New York got pretty messed up by alien soldiers and flying worm... things. The studio is notorious for its control of the overarching narrative, now spanning more than 20 films from 2008’s Iron Man through at least 2019’s Inhumans — with more sure to be announced. The Spider-Man stories that Sony has told thus far don’t fit that world at all, so when Spidey enters the Marvel Cinematic Universe, be it his flagship film or a cameo elsewhere, he presumably won’t have any of that past baggage.

Some of the more interesting emails leaked during the Sony Pictures hack actually centered around Marvel wanting to use Spider-Man. Then-co-chair Amy Pascal and President Doug Belgrad had discussed a scenario where Marvel would produce a new Spider-Man trilogy for which Sony would retain "creative control, marketing and distribution." It struck us as very odd at the time for all the reasons mentioned above, but sure enough, "final creative control" was a key line in last night’s press release. What that ultimately means is open to interpretation. It could be as little as Sony nodding their head to whatever ideas Marvel actually does. Yeah, that’s probably what it means.

Spider-Man in civil war comics
Get ready for Civil War

The big question now is, when do we actually get to see Spider-Man — and who will play him? According to those aforementioned leaked Sony Pictures emails, Marvel Studios wanted him for Captain America: Civil War, which is scheduled to hit theaters on May 6th, 2016.

Marvel's upcoming films

Get ready for a very, very, busy few years:

2015
Avengers: Age of Ultron: May 1st
Ant-Man: July 17th

2016
Captain America: Civil War: May 6th
Doctor Strange: November 4th

2017
Guardians of the Galaxy 2: May 5th
Spider-Man: July 28th
Thor: Ragnarok: November 3rd

2018
Avengers: Infinity War, Part 1: May 4th
Black Panther: July 6th
Captain Marvel: November 2nd

2019
Avengers: Infinity War, Part 2: May 3rd
Inhumans: July 12th

Marvel isn’t officially saying when we’ll see Spider-Man for the first time, but for comic book fans, this would be the ideal debut. Civil War is expected to be based off Marvel’s famous comic book event series of the same name, which pits Iron Man (Robert Downey Jr.) and Captain America (Chris Evans) against one another over the issue of mutant superhero registration vs. the right to privacy. Spider-Man is one of the first major characters to publicly reveal his identity in support of registration, at the behest of Iron Man, only to later change sides and support the resistance.
Using Spider-Man this way would necessarily mean Marvel Studios has to skip Spider-Man’s origin story (or at least provide a very quick version of it) — which is fine, because frankly, we’ve seen it enough times. But it’s unlikely that directors Joe and Anthony Russo will go this route; secret identities don’t really exist in this cinematic universe. Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige has intimated before that Civil War would more likely focus on the broader topic of governments wanting more oversight vs. a right to privacy. How Spidey would fit in that isn’t clear cut. If nothing else, it’d make for one helluva good post-credits scene.

Logistically, there’s also the matter of casting the new Spider-Man (assuming he’s to be unmasked in this film). All signs point to Andrew Garfield not returning, which opens the door pretty much anyone at this point. It doesn’t even have to be Peter Parker. Other Marvel characters have donned the Spider-Man mask — chief among them Miles Morales. And remember, whoever is picked will likely be playing Spider-Man for a dozen films. Marvel doesn't change out actors.

Read next: Enough Peter Parker: the Marvel Cinematic Universe doesn't need another white Spider-Man

The first standalone Spider-Man film is slated for July 28th, 2017 (which consequently pushed back the release dates for Thor: Ragnarok, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and Inhumans). The only names currently attached are Pascal and Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige. If there were any frontrunners for director, it’d be the Russo brothers, who directed Captain America: The Winter Soldier and will direct Civil War. Per the leaked Sony emails, the Russo brothers once pitched Sony on making new Spider-Man films. At that time, it would’ve required a "difficult conversation" — but not anymore. Given how tightly interwoven all Marvel’s movies are, Spider-Man could play a big role in any of its upcoming films — including the two-part Avengers: Infinity War scheduled for 2018 and 2019.

My sources say Sony still has rights to make Spidey spin-offs, if they choose. @blakex10 @dsolzman @ericign

— Anthony Breznican (@breznican) February 10, 2015
Meanwhile, Sony reportedly has the right to make those Spider-Man spinoffs, including the Drew Goddard-helmed Sinister Six (originally scheduled for November 11th, 2016). That doesn't mean Sony will make those films, but then again, "why not?" has been pretty good reasoning so far.

All those details are relatively minor compared to last night’s news that Spider-Man is back under Marvel’s sphere of film influence. The only thing that feels certain at this point is Spider-Man's phone of choice:

@ohnorosco "Hello is this Captain America. This is Spider-Man and I am calling you from my Xperia smartphone. It is VERY good"

— Casey Newton (@caseynewton) February 10, 2015
P.S. — I love you, Casey Newton.

[Blaze72]

Feb 11, 2015 0:08:21 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Feb 10, 2015 23:32:48 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Another reboot, great. I think after 2020 when they're done rebooting everything. I'm gonna stop watching Hollywood movies.

Seems like a new franchise is in order since it's going to a different entity.

Also Amazing Spider-Man 2 was "eh". They usually don't improve past that point./

There was also alot of creative differences with Amazing Spider-Man 2 along with lots of scenes being cut out

Feb 10, 2015 23:32:48 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Another reboot, great. I think after 2020 when they're done rebooting everything. I'm gonna stop watching Hollywood movies.

Remakes, Reboots etc aren't exactly a new thing to Hollywood.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Yea, weren't they supposed to have MJ in it?

[Blaze72]

Yep, the movie really needs some sort of a director's cut.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

May 30, 2015 7:30:39 GMT -5 Blaze72 said:

Yep, the movie really needs some sort of a director's cut.

I think the movie just tried to do too much.

[Blaze72]

With the new movie i'm hoping we don't get another origin movie, Just jump straight into the action & story.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

May 30, 2015 7:42:16 GMT -5 Blaze72 said:

With the new movie i'm hoping we don't get another origin movie, Just jump straight into the action & story.

It's possible, but they love their origin stories. Hopefully if they use Mary Jane she'll actually be hot this time.

[JACK-2]

May 30, 2015 7:48:06 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

May 30, 2015 7:42:16 GMT -5 Blaze72 said:

With the new movie i'm hoping we don't get another origin movie, Just jump straight into the action & story.

It's possible, but they love their origin stories. Hopefully if they use Mary Jane she'll actually be hot this time.

That's basically what they are doing with the new Batman.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

May 30, 2015 20:25:23 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

May 30, 2015 7:48:06 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

It's possible, but they love their origin stories. Hopefully if they use Mary Jane she'll actually be hot this time.

That's basically what they are doing with the new Batman.

You mean redoing it?

[Blaze72]

No, jump straight into the action & story.

[JACK-2]

May 30, 2015 20:35:24 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

You mean redoing it?

There going straight into the action with the new Batman reboot. So, we won't see an origin story for a while.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Makes sense as we all know the origin of Batman. That way hardcore fans don't have to sit through it and the casual fans get in on the action. Seems more like a standalone movie anyways.

[Blaze72]

The new guy has been officially announced, Tom Holland

www.joblo.com/movie-news/sony-and-marvel-officially-announce-tom-holland-as-the-new-spider-man-263

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

He definitely pulls off the geek look.