What do you think of U.S?

[Maulen]

Mar 30, 2015 7:45:17 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Only 2 more years until I can go.

So how's your Nihongo? I bet you're going through the same.
I started studying it last month and heck I thought I was good, I memorized all hiragana in first 9hr of the class. but wait, there's more. there's Kanji. who would be able to memorize that another 22,000+ characters? I don't think I can get even half of them.

[JACK-2]

May 6, 2015 16:20:42 GMT -5 Maulen said:

So how's your Nihongo? I bet you're going through the same.
I started studying it last month and heck I thought I was good, I memorized all hiragana in first 9hr of the class. but wait, there's more. there's Kanji. who would be able to memorize that another 22,000+ characters? I don't think I can get even half of them.

ままですけど。


かなは簡単だよ。8日ぐらいに勉強したそれで分かりました。

Kanji isn't difficult once you learn Radicals and Stroke order.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

May 7, 2015 19:36:11 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

May 6, 2015 16:20:42 GMT -5 Maulen said:

So how's your Nihongo? I bet you're going through the same.
I started studying it last month and heck I thought I was good, I memorized all hiragana in first 9hr of the class. but wait, there's more. there's Kanji. who would be able to memorize that another 22,000+ characters? I don't think I can get even half of them.

ままですけど。


かなは簡単だよ。8日ぐらいに勉強したそれで分かりました。

Kanji isn't difficult once you learn Radicals and Stroke order.

Showoff.

[JACK-2]

I forgot this place supported Kanji. So, I kinda went overboard.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

May 8, 2015 3:03:10 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

I forgot this place supported Kanji. So, I kinda went overboard.

I didn't even know it did lol.

And I don't mind, I was just teasing you.

[JACK-2]

The other crap board I went to didn't. But, I figured yours did since you tend to give this forum everything.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

May 8, 2015 3:12:46 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

The other crap board I went to didn't. But, I figured yours did since you tend to give this forum everything.

Yea I try to max it out for the members. I need to learn some Japanese. It would be great for reading certain manga.

[Maulen]

May 7, 2015 19:36:11 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

ままですけど。


かなは簡単だよ。8日ぐらいに勉強したそれで分かりました。

Kanji isn't difficult once you learn Radicals and Stroke order.

The fact that people can hardly learn it within 6 months is good enough reason to call it difficult.
1 kanji character can be called more than 2 sometimes. and you pronounce it differently depends on how it is used. I have very long way to go.
I think speaking is far more easier than writing.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

May 9, 2015 15:48:34 GMT -5 Maulen said:

May 7, 2015 19:36:11 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

ままですけど。


かなは簡単だよ。8日ぐらいに勉強したそれで分かりました。

Kanji isn't difficult once you learn Radicals and Stroke order.

The fact that people can hardly learn it within 6 months is good enough reason to call it difficult.
1 kanji character can be called more than 2 sometimes. and you pronounce it differently depends on how it is used. I have very long way to go.
I think speaking is far more easier than writing.

How many languages do you know?

[Maulen]

May 9, 2015 16:42:29 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

May 9, 2015 15:48:34 GMT -5 Maulen said:

The fact that people can hardly learn it within 6 months is good enough reason to call it difficult.
1 kanji character can be called more than 2 sometimes. and you pronounce it differently depends on how it is used. I have very long way to go.
I think speaking is far more easier than writing.

How many languages do you know?

2 native languages, tagalog and bicol.
English with american accent. that's 3.
japanese in progress, basic conversation.

You have any tips for me? at least five most used kanji characters.
Sensei wants us to memorize 10 a day, but I wish to know the most useful first.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

May 10, 2015 3:09:44 GMT -5 Maulen said:

May 9, 2015 16:42:29 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

How many languages do you know?

2 native languages, tagalog and bicol.
English with american accent. that's 3.
japanese in progress, basic conversation.

You have any tips for me? at least five most used kanji characters.
Sensei wants us to memorize 10 a day, but I wish to know the most useful first.

I couldn't help you because I don't speak it. I was going to have master Jack teach me. Lol.

[JACK-2]

May 9, 2015 15:48:34 GMT -5 Maulen said:

The fact that people can hardly learn it within 6 months is good enough reason to call it difficult.
1 kanji character can be called more than 2 sometimes. and you pronounce it differently depends on how it is used. I have very long way to go.
I think speaking is far more easier than writing.

Yeah, but the context gives the name away very easily and Japanese is much harder to speak than write. Because Kanji gives meaning to the many homonyms in the language. Kanji really isn't as hard as people make it out to be. Just learn stroke order and radicals. It's the grammar that might be a problem.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

May 12, 2015 15:28:12 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

May 9, 2015 15:48:34 GMT -5 Maulen said:

The fact that people can hardly learn it within 6 months is good enough reason to call it difficult.
1 kanji character can be called more than 2 sometimes. and you pronounce it differently depends on how it is used. I have very long way to go.
I think speaking is far more easier than writing.

Yeah, but the context gives the name away very easily and Japanese is much harder to speak than write. Because Kanji gives meaning to the many homonyms in the language. Kanji really isn't as hard as people make it out to be. Just learn stroke order and radicals. It's the grammar that might be a problem.

I've heard someone else say it's harder to speak. Is the sentence structure just different?

[JACK-2]

The grammar and the existence of particles makes it very different from Indo European languages. People exaggerate the writing because it's not latin, but the writing is the easiest part.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

May 12, 2015 17:41:40 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

The grammar and the existence of particles makes it very different from Indo European languages. People exaggerate the writing because it's not latin, but the writing is the easiest part.

Could you give me an example?

[JACK-2]

It's hard to explain but english has a fixed word order in that you have to put words a certain way or else the sentence doesn't work. You can't say The pizza John eat or something like that. Japanese has somethings that are fixed [The verb always comes at the end] or the particle "Wa" being at the beginning. But, there's a alot more flexibility and the particles tell you the relationship of the words.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

May 13, 2015 16:03:19 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

It's hard to explain but english has a fixed word order in that you have to put words a certain way or else the sentence doesn't work. You can't say The pizza John eat or something like that. Japanese has somethings that are fixed [The verb always comes at the end] or the particle "Wa" being at the beginning. But, there's a alot more flexibility and the particles tell you the relationship of the words.

Is that why the translation is different at times and the sentence seems backwards?

[JACK-2]

Yeah.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Would that give you more freedom to write though?

[magicattack]

May 10, 2015 3:09:44 GMT -5 Maulen said:

May 9, 2015 16:42:29 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

How many languages do you know?

2 native languages, tagalog and bicol.
English with american accent. that's 3.
japanese in progress, basic conversation.

You have any tips for me? at least five most used kanji characters.
Sensei wants us to memorize 10 a day, but I wish to know the most useful first.

Interesting. I have been having a friend teach me some Tagalog. I have been contemplating a trip to the Philippines. While I know it's not really necessary to learn to get around and function there, I think it will be amusing to the locals to see a 6'2" white guy that can speak Tagalog.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

May 14, 2015 19:37:27 GMT -5 magicattack said:

May 10, 2015 3:09:44 GMT -5 Maulen said:

2 native languages, tagalog and bicol.
English with american accent. that's 3.
japanese in progress, basic conversation.

You have any tips for me? at least five most used kanji characters.
Sensei wants us to memorize 10 a day, but I wish to know the most useful first.

Interesting. I have been having a friend teach me some Tagalog. I have been contemplating a trip to the Philippines. While I know it's not really necessary to learn to get around and function there, I think it will be amusing to the locals to see a 6'2" white guy that can speak Tagalog.

Hey bro. Hope you've been well.

I didn't know you were 6'2, lol. All of my friends are huge.

[Maulen]

May 14, 2015 19:37:27 GMT -5 magicattack said:

May 10, 2015 3:09:44 GMT -5 Maulen said:

2 native languages, tagalog and bicol.
English with american accent. that's 3.
japanese in progress, basic conversation.

You have any tips for me? at least five most used kanji characters.
Sensei wants us to memorize 10 a day, but I wish to know the most useful first.

Interesting. I have been having a friend teach me some Tagalog. I have been contemplating a trip to the Philippines. While I know it's not really necessary to learn to get around and function there, I think it will be amusing to the locals to see a 6'2" white guy that can speak Tagalog.

Tell me what do you think of tagalog.

Philippines is just like any other country in Asia, If you're white guy walking down the street, you'll get stares and smiles. but seeing white guy speaks tagalog, that's kind of funny and impressive. If someone laughs at you speaking tagalog, don't get offended, they're just surprised.

[Maulen]

May 13, 2015 16:03:19 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

It's hard to explain but english has a fixed word order in that you have to put words a certain way or else the sentence doesn't work. You can't say The pizza John eat or something like that. Japanese has somethings that are fixed [The verb always comes at the end] or the particle "Wa" being at the beginning. But, there's a alot more flexibility and the particles tell you the relationship of the words.

I agree with Jack here. there's word order for every sentences that cannot be translated word for word. but I kind of relating to this because my native language uses the same way when translating it to English. like..

John はピザを食べました
(John wa piza o tabemashita)
If we translate that to english word for word, thats, "John pizza ate" what?
but the correct meaning is "John ate pizza"
still hard to explain, but you get it.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

When I was younger I used to wonder why translated sentences till seemed "weird" but it makes more sense the older I get.