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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Nov 23, 2011 13:42:29 GMT -5
Lol back than Juggetnaut vs Hulk Was a big debate but now Current Hulk would best any Juggernaut expect 8th say and Trion other than that Hulk wins,classic hulk I really can't say... Hulk has gotten more powerful. You think he'd bypass normal Juggs at peak? |
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Post by lioncityhulkedc on Nov 23, 2011 14:29:56 GMT -5
Honestly Hulk will never have a peak,same for infinity man,Amazo and all of the unlimited potential characters,but peak hulk owns Peak juggernaut now the peak Juggy in my opinion is Trion Juggy but Hulk one time in the same Heart of The mister arcs grew 100-120 fts till 20ft Fing Fang Foom was tall as hulks Hulk knee or lower so that Hulk gives Trion trouble.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Nov 23, 2011 14:36:54 GMT -5
Honestly Hulk will never have a peak,same for infinity man,Amazo and all of the unlimited potential characters,but peak hulk owns Peak juggernaut now the peak Juggy in my opinion is Trion Juggy but Hulk one time in the same Heart of The mister arcs grew 100-120 fts till 20ft Fing Fang Foom was tall as hulks Hulk knee or lower so that Hulk gives Trion trouble. Somewhat, theoretically they have limits, they're just very high. Juggs power comes from a powerful elder, so his limits are quite high also. |
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Post by lioncityhulkedc on Nov 23, 2011 14:45:11 GMT -5
Honestly Hulk will never have a peak,same for infinity man,Amazo and all of the unlimited potential characters,but peak hulk owns Peak juggernaut now the peak Juggy in my opinion is Trion Juggy but Hulk one time in the same Heart of The mister arcs grew 100-120 fts till 20ft Fing Fang Foom was tall as hulks Hulk knee or lower so that Hulk gives Trion trouble. Somewhat, theoretically they have limits, they're just very high. Juggs power comes from a powerful elder, so his limits are quite high also. your right,but Hulk is not human so his emotions runs "different" than the human type flow of emotions do....but actually Hulk has already been started around twice or thrice as having infinite power 1 by a cosmic being(Beyonder) 2 by the worlds great scienctist even Apocolypse said hulks power is enough to take on A celestial(not all of them of course) juggernaut.....barely has praises |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Nov 23, 2011 14:55:16 GMT -5
Somewhat, theoretically they have limits, they're just very high. Juggs power comes from a powerful elder, so his limits are quite high also. your right,but Hulk is not human so his emotions runs "different" than the human type flow of emotions do....but actually Hulk has already been started around twice or thrice as having infinite power 1 by a cosmic being(Beyonder) 2 by the worlds great scienctist even Apocolypse said hulks power is enough to take on A celestial(not all of them of course) juggernaut.....barely has praises Hulk is also a powerful superhero and comics are known to exaggerate things. His limit is high, but unless he is omnipotent, it's still there. |
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Post by lioncityhulkedc on Nov 23, 2011 15:02:43 GMT -5
your right,but Hulk is not human so his emotions runs "different" than the human type flow of emotions do....but actually Hulk has already been started around twice or thrice as having infinite power 1 by a cosmic being(Beyonder) 2 by the worlds great scienctist even Apocolypse said hulks power is enough to take on A celestial(not all of them of course) juggernaut.....barely has praises Hulk is also a powerful superhero and comics are known to exaggerate things. His limit is high, but unless he is omnipotent, it's still there. lol actually Anger is unlimited...this making Hulk power unlimited but still I see your point as getting that much angry is just to impossible |
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Post by rez on Nov 23, 2011 17:53:34 GMT -5
Honestly Hulk will never have a peak,same for infinity man,Amazo and all of the unlimited potential characters,but peak hulk owns Peak juggernaut now the peak Juggy in my opinion is Trion Juggy but Hulk one time in the same Heart of The mister arcs grew 100-120 fts till 20ft Fing Fang Foom was tall as hulks Hulk knee or lower so that Hulk gives Trion trouble. Somewhat, theoretically they have limits, they're just very high. Juggs power comes from a powerful elder, so his limits are quite high also. Considering in their last meeting, a full powered juggernaut struggled with WWH,strength wise?Hulk is the stronger of the 2. LOL,Juggernaut got trapped under a collapsed mountain for years.Hulk got trapped under several collapsed mountains for like 3 minutes.i see where your coming from with The likes of Batman taking down the Hulk(Dumb Hulk)Juggernaut has a chance,no doubt.He already has a win against the prof.Death match?Juggernaut is getting killed.I can explain why if you like. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Nov 23, 2011 18:18:17 GMT -5
Somewhat, theoretically they have limits, they're just very high. Juggs power comes from a powerful elder, so his limits are quite high also. Considering in their last meeting, a full powered juggernaut struggled with WWH,strength wise?Hulk is the stronger of the 2. LOL,Juggernaut got trapped under a collapsed mountain for years.Hulk got trapped under several collapsed mountains for like 3 minutes.i see where your coming from with The likes of Batman taking down the Hulk(Dumb Hulk)Juggernaut has a chance,no doubt.He already has a win against the prof.Death match?Juggernaut is getting killed.I can explain why if you like. Juggernaut has been weakened, but he fighting at his best has crazy regeneration, strength, and force fields. Hulk has his moments too. Iron Man and Namor for example. |
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Post by rez on Nov 24, 2011 6:58:15 GMT -5
Considering in their last meeting, a full powered juggernaut struggled with WWH,strength wise?Hulk is the stronger of the 2. LOL,Juggernaut got trapped under a collapsed mountain for years.Hulk got trapped under several collapsed mountains for like 3 minutes.i see where your coming from with The likes of Batman taking down the Hulk(Dumb Hulk)Juggernaut has a chance,no doubt.He already has a win against the prof.Death match?Juggernaut is getting killed.I can explain why if you like. Juggernaut has been weakened, but he fighting at his best has crazy regeneration, strength, and force fields. Hulk has his moments too. Iron Man and Namor for example. Juggernaut was weakened before,but has gotten his powers back i dont think he was weakened in any of his fights with hulk,with the exception of the ass whooping he received prior to his repowerment in WWH.But at full power he did struggle then got BFRed.the problem with juggernauts powers is they come from that Gem,they are not a natural ability,they are granted to him by cyttorak through the gem,all hulk needs to do is Cut juggernaut off from his power source,Juggernaut however will have a very hard time seperating banner and Hulk.Juggernaut can win if the "Banner" effect kicks in.But against a Bannerless Hulk?No way. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Nov 24, 2011 7:12:15 GMT -5
Juggernaut has been weakened, but he fighting at his best has crazy regeneration, strength, and force fields. Hulk has his moments too. Iron Man and Namor for example. Juggernaut was weakened before,but has gotten his powers back i dont think he was weakened in any of his fights with hulk,with the exception of the ass whooping he received prior to his repowerment in WWH.But at full power he did struggle then got BFRed.the problem with juggernauts powers is they come from that Gem,they are not a natural ability,they are granted to him by cyttorak through the gem,all hulk needs to do is Cut juggernaut off from his power source,Juggernaut however will have a very hard time seperating banner and Hulk.Juggernaut can win if the "Banner" effect kicks in.But against a Bannerless Hulk?No way. Well he only needed to touch the Gem to get the power. The best way to win against Hulk is to ko him early so he can't "anger up". If this goes on longer and longer it won't end. |
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Post by rez on Nov 24, 2011 7:30:45 GMT -5
Juggernaut was weakened before,but has gotten his powers back i dont think he was weakened in any of his fights with hulk,with the exception of the ass whooping he received prior to his repowerment in WWH.But at full power he did struggle then got BFRed.the problem with juggernauts powers is they come from that Gem,they are not a natural ability,they are granted to him by cyttorak through the gem,all hulk needs to do is Cut juggernaut off from his power source,Juggernaut however will have a very hard time seperating banner and Hulk.Juggernaut can win if the "Banner" effect kicks in.But against a Bannerless Hulk?No way. Well he only needed to touch the Gem to get the power. The best way to win against Hulk is to ko him early so he can't "anger up". If this goes on longer and longer it won't end. I agree that flash KO is how juggernaut can win this one,However it really depends on how much banner is affecting Hulks thinking,We know Banner is not a murderer,so he will try gain control if Hulk goes on a murderous rampage,i call this the "banner effect".But bannerless Hulk is completely different,there is no element to Hold him back.Fear itself-Xmen gave a unique insite into what it is actually like being a juggernaut,from Colossus point of View. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Nov 24, 2011 8:21:21 GMT -5
Well he only needed to touch the Gem to get the power. The best way to win against Hulk is to ko him early so he can't "anger up". If this goes on longer and longer it won't end. I agree that flash KO is how juggernaut can win this one,However it really depends on how much banner is affecting Hulks thinking,We know Banner is not a murderer,so he will try gain control if Hulk goes on a murderous rampage,i call this the "banner effect".But bannerless Hulk is completely different,there is no element to Hold him back.Fear itself-Xmen gave a unique insite into what it is actually like being a juggernaut,from Colossus point of View. Well that and if his durability and anger aren't up to par when he gets the strike. Either way it is a good fight. |
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