Overwatch Thread.

[WarMachineRhodey]

So i watched some of videos c-master and one thing you want to do when playing as soldier 76 is to turn on your allies health so you can drop your healing device if you see that a teammate needs to health.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Yea, I saw someone mention that. I always thought it was weird you couldn't see the health of the teammates clearly outside of healing.

There are other things I tweaked like with Mercy (toggle) and Widowmaker (sensitivity) and it makes life easier.

Those set of matches against that really good team was really satisfying and I realize just how good Mercy's gun is after hearing so much about its power. It even melts through tanks. I will definitely be using more of her.

I have been using Genji as well, but he's only suitable for normal matches. I need more practice before bringing him out against the big boys.

Definitely feel like my skill has gone up.

As far as my mains now I like Genji, Reinhart, Widowmaker, and Mercy. I want to try out Diva and get use to Torbjorn at some point as well. Many times when I try to switch to someone else, the other sniper is terrible (which is 99% of Widows) or there is none and we end up getting choked out by Turrets and other snipers. Many times I have to fight the urge even though I know I can win the match by switching. Gotta get the experience somehow.

If I have a competent sniper on the team (which is pretty rare, especially with Widow) I have no problem playing someone else. I like to mix it up.

[WarMachineRhodey]

Jun 6, 2016 20:10:04 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Yea, I saw someone mention that. I always thought it was weird you couldn't see the health of the teammates clearly outside of healing.

There are other things I tweaked like with Mercy (toggle) and Widowmaker (sensitivity) and it makes life easier.

Those set of matches against that really good team was really satisfying and I realize just how good Mercy's gun is after hearing so much about its power. It even melts through tanks. I will definitely be using more of her.

I have been using Genji as well, but he's only suitable for normal matches. I need more practice before bringing him out against the big boys.

Definitely feel like my skill has gone up.

As far as my mains now I like Genji, Reinhart, Widowmaker, and Mercy. I want to try out Diva and get use to Torbjorn at some point as well. Many times when I try to switch to someone else, the other sniper is terrible (which is 99% of Widows) or there is none and we end up getting choked out by Turrets and other snipers. Many times I have to fight the urge even though I know I can win the match by switching. Gotta get the experience somehow.

If I have a competent sniper on the team (which is pretty rare, especially with Widow) I have no problem playing someone else. I like to mix it up.

When playing D.Va from my experience she isnt the conventional tank that can just soak up bullets. The head shot hitbox on her meka is huge and at the center of the body so with her you have to constantly engage and disengage fights and even 1v1 fights depending on what abilities are ready to use. A competent sniper is a must on Temple of Anubis mainly the first point since usually a bastion and torbjorn turret are near that arch way at the start. Most people dont try to flank left or right for some reason and will repeatedly run up the middle constantly dying but that is for all maps. 

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jun 6, 2016 22:54:59 GMT -5 WarMachineRhodey said:

Jun 6, 2016 20:10:04 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Yea, I saw someone mention that. I always thought it was weird you couldn't see the health of the teammates clearly outside of healing.

There are other things I tweaked like with Mercy (toggle) and Widowmaker (sensitivity) and it makes life easier.

Those set of matches against that really good team was really satisfying and I realize just how good Mercy's gun is after hearing so much about its power. It even melts through tanks. I will definitely be using more of her.

I have been using Genji as well, but he's only suitable for normal matches. I need more practice before bringing him out against the big boys.

Definitely feel like my skill has gone up.

As far as my mains now I like Genji, Reinhart, Widowmaker, and Mercy. I want to try out Diva and get use to Torbjorn at some point as well. Many times when I try to switch to someone else, the other sniper is terrible (which is 99% of Widows) or there is none and we end up getting choked out by Turrets and other snipers. Many times I have to fight the urge even though I know I can win the match by switching. Gotta get the experience somehow.

If I have a competent sniper on the team (which is pretty rare, especially with Widow) I have no problem playing someone else. I like to mix it up.

When playing D.Va from my experience she isnt the conventional tank that can just soak up bullets. The head shot hitbox on her meka is huge and at the center of the body so with her you have to constantly engage and disengage fights and even 1v1 fights depending on what abilities are ready to use. A competent sniper is a must on Temple of Anubis mainly the first point since usually a bastion and torbjorn turret are near that arch way at the start. Most people dont try to flank left or right for some reason and will repeatedly run up the middle constantly dying but that is for all maps. 

They try to get to the critical hit point. It does seem like Winston fulfills the harassment role better than she does though. D. Va has her strong points as well though.

Btw did you know Junkrat's tire can go up walls?


Also here are some basic guides for people as well:

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[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Yesterday's matches. The first two were some Genji ones I did and the rest were with WarMachineRhodey and I on a team:

[WarMachineRhodey]

My POV playing with C-master

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Always nice to see yourself through someone else's eyes.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

When you make a custom match, do people come in automatically when your friends you add don't fill out all of the slots?

Whenever I do it I only get 1 or 2 people max. I can't get others to come in at all. What am I doing wrong? Are you inviting people in quick matches or something?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

More matches:

[WarMachineRhodey]

Jun 7, 2016 16:48:17 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

When you make a custom match, do people come in automatically when your friends you add don't fill out all of the slots?

Whenever I do it I only get 1 or 2 people max. I can't get others to come in at all. What am I doing wrong? Are you inviting people in quick matches or something?

Cant say cause i never played in a custom match.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jun 8, 2016 15:09:26 GMT -5 WarMachineRhodey said:

Jun 7, 2016 16:48:17 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

When you make a custom match, do people come in automatically when your friends you add don't fill out all of the slots?

Whenever I do it I only get 1 or 2 people max. I can't get others to come in at all. What am I doing wrong? Are you inviting people in quick matches or something?

Cant say cause i never played in a custom match.

When I played with you in a group against the others what did you do?

[WarMachineRhodey]

Jun 8, 2016 15:35:25 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Jun 8, 2016 15:09:26 GMT -5 WarMachineRhodey said:

Cant say cause i never played in a custom match.

When I played with you in a group against the others what did you do?

I thought we were playing quick play matches. Unless you mean that you were trying to play with a group of people but their spots kept being taken by random players and in that case you have to make the group outside the matchmaking que then when everyone is in then start the que up. If i still didnt answer your question then im confused lol 

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Nope. Someone explained it to me. Make the group then go quick play.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

More matches. Had some very strong competition today. Quite nasty.

Might have to start using the mic in some of these matches.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

More:

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

More matches incoming. The mic definitely makes a world of difference:

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

More matches.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Some matches, with a nice cleanup at the end of the second one.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

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[The Big Daddy C-Master]

This community is pretty crazy. I'm viewing the Reddit and Blizzard sites for Overwatch and it's just a toxic fest of people bickering and asking to nerf everything they don't want to deal with.

I'm all for balancing and patching, but I also like to let a game breathe for a bit as most of these complaints are unfounded in the long run. Modern games just cater to the masses at every turn and the idiot democratized vote takes over and they just dumb the game down time and time again.

I mean these pages are horrible. If anybody disagrees they get down-voted into oblivion without even a proper counter point. Very bothersome to say the least.

If this game is going down this road it's probably going to take a chunk of my interest away from it but I'll see what happens first.

[azik21]

I can understand getting annoyed with a lot of stuff... But from my experience if you can't deal with something you probably need to switch characters/strategy. Having a half decent team covers almost all shenanigans characters. So far this game is literally about changing characters to adjust to the matchup and I guess people only wanna stick with 1 character atm

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

You hit the nail on the head. People want to "main" characters in a game based on team sync and picking the right character. Not to mention most players are going to be bad anyways and this game was meant to be accessible for people who are bad at FPS games or have no experience with them so they want to make it super accessible. The game has almost no need to aim (unless you're sniping with Widow), you can point in the general direction and rack up tons of damage quickly because of the tracking of the weapons or the projectiles have huge hitboxes and do large damage with fast reload times and no need to search for ammo. I have no problem with an accessible game that's meant to be silly. You just have to accept the craziness all around. Many people like lobbing spam with Junkrat for example without having to aim but don't like getting killed by a turret.

Characters that punish bad placement will be hated more in games like this just the way people hate fireballs. If Blizzard lets the meta evolve it will settle in with due time. Just a shame that gaming has become like this though.


One quote sums it up nicely:

"so much bads in this thread that it's not even fun to read it.
ppl having 0 playtime on champs making demands about nerfs and throwing "arguments", because we all know you can copy arguments from random internet site, no need to check them out. so, bunch of 0 playtime on WM bads are asking for nerf to the ground, and others, who play them, and said "hey, it's not that easy as you trying to show it, please try by yourself if you don't believe" are just massively downvoted and overruned by bads.
bads overrun this forum and every normal discussion. we don't have topics "should xxx be changed?" anymore, instead now we have "nerf xxx because.".
f*cking witch hunt.

blizz, you've made very, very, VERY good game and i'm love playing it, but this forum is piece of sh*t, and normal players should abandon it.

edit: oh, and i almost forgot. game is about hero countering, hero swaping, hero stacking, overtimes, etc. and what we're witnessing here? "nerf xxx because i don't know how to counter/swap", "disable hero stacking", "remove overtime". HAVEN'T YOU SEE WHAT PRODUCT DO YOU BUY? when you're buying milk you also ask producer of it to change it into water?"

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Whiner nerfs happened on Overwatch. Saw it coming. Wouldn't be as annoying if other silly aspects were fixed.

I wonder how this game will work long term. Bad players already complained about Bastion and Torb and got them nerfed. With the nerf to flanker killers and to Widow, you're going to see Tracers everywhere and turrets will be stronger as well.

I think there are lots of silly things in the game but I don't like balancing based on the lastest complaining. Not a good sign IMO.

[azik21]

Widowmaker changes aren't bad at all. I can't believe the McCree nerfs though. Are those the only characters they changed?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

The Widowmaker change is the worst kind because it makes the game feel more sluggish and clunky. I wouldn't care about the bodyshot damage nerf and the ultimate nerf, but making the aim and scope much more sluggish basically not only kills your firing rate but makes it much harder to aim quickly. Good players always scope in and out so they can be aware of their surroundings and engage in mid range. Everybody has been saying the same thing about her being far more sluggish to play now in matches. Hanzo is going to definitely be a better pick for sure.

Most people don't mind the sniper nerfs because most people hate snipers since most don't position themselves properly. McRee got nerfed because he killed everything (including tanks) with no effort required. His made some sense.

Making the aiming much slower is like learning all of your muscle memory again. The worst kind of nerf. If they nerfed many of the other silly aspects in the game I wouldn't mind as much but people want to be able to run in mid range and shoot without thinking and many characters don't have to aim at all.

[azik21]

Let me rephrase that I'm amazing his damage was almost cut in half not that he got a damage nerf. Shes still gonna be one of the most threatening characters on certain maps. Seems like they wanna take away her mobility so you have to commit to a position longer. I like how the game was the day I bought it but changes are inevitable.. my changes - Hanzo ultimate shouldn't go thru walls. Mercy ultimate should have a limit on the amount she can revive. I hope they give D-va a pin move that does 200 damage like Reinhardt. I also hope for character weapon variations but that won't happen

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

So you're amazed in a good way or a bad way?

Hanzo is a much more powerful pick in most situations. He gets more damage easier, no need to aim, reload, constant wall hacks, better ult, etc. Widow is supposed to be threatening at a long range, but she loses a lot of her functionality and the nerf to the scoping punishes players for having high execution and skill. If you look at skilled players they are constantly moving and shooting quickly. They need to if they want to be threat in more situations and contribute more to your team. Now you're forced to sit back and take pot shots and a lot of skilled things like hook shotting have been altered. People will forever whine about snipers because they hate being killed for playing dumb. Most just want to run in and spam.

I just find it odd that Widow is the only one who has to play in a "realistic" way, but not the other characters who have all kinds of dumb crap like no needing to sit back and reload. People taking next to no splash damage and going crazy. Stupid headshot boxes, press one button and kill everything on the screen moves, etc. This game was meant to be more casual friendly and it has a lot of stuff that I find dumb, but I don't go around crying nerf for everything. I think a lot of dumb stuff would be better off not in the game, but I realize this is not a technical "realistic" shooter. It's like the Marvel of shooters; it has a lot of dumb stuff. Nerfing a skill based aspect of a character is dumb.

She'll be more of a specialty pick on a lot of maps would be my guess. A good sniper should always be threatening. People don't like it and most want her nerfed to the ground. Most people were never good with Widow, like 99% were bad, and now only a small percentage will do well with her and there will still be limitation.


Awful design choice to hand out whiner nerfs. I'm definitely going to take a break since it's non productive anyways. Hate that I spent money on those loot boxes like I did lol.

I play a lot of characters for the sake of learning and I was considering ranked, but changes like that basically make me rework the entire usage of the character. It's like taking Ryu and making him a charge character. Many people would swap for that reason alone.

They're probably going to add characters instead of variations. I think the "kill everything with one button" abilities should be nerfed, but people whine about hacking. Nerfs are way too common in this game.

IMO Diva doesn't need an instant death pin, she's versatile and mobile enough. Probably a smaller crit box on her head though.

[azik21]

I mean it doesn't effect my opinion on how much I enjoy the game.  I guess maybe they wanna force players into using his rapid fire and reload while actually needing to aim.