Suicide Squad Receives Horrible Reviews.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Wow a 29% Rotten Tomatoes rating and a 42% Metacritic rating.

variety.com/2016/film/news/suicide-squad-reviews-1201828718/



Does “Suicide Squad” live up to the hype? For months, fans have anxiously awaited the arrival of the DC Comics’ movie that could finally trump the Marvel Universe. Although the movie is projected to be summer hit, will David Ayer’s “Suicide Squad” dethrone the Marvel Universe critically?

Early reviews aren’t looking too favorable in that battle. So far, on Rotten Tomatoes, “Suicide Squad” is hitting below 40%. Compared to Marvel Universe’s last film, “Captain America: Civil War” which landed at 90% and the latest Avengers installment which landed at 75%, DC Comics has a lot of catching up to do. DC and Warner Bros.’ latest, “Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice,” didn’t wow critically, coming in at 27%.


Variety’s Chief Film Critic Peter Debruge emphasizes in his review that although The Joker and Harley Quinn are scene-stealers, the story makes little sense and is pretty messy.


“Yes, [Ayer] and Leto manage to invent a version of the Joker every bit as unsettling as the late Heath Ledger’s immortal incarnation, turning the iconic Batman rival into a ruthless seducer (hunt down ‘Mr. Nobody’ to see the origins of Leto’s wicked deep-throated cackle), but the character barely has anything to do,” writes Debruge.

Richard Lawson of Vanity Fair says the movie is “bad. Not fun bad. Not redeemable bad. Not the kind of bad that is the unfortunate result of artists honorably striving for something ambitious and falling short.”

Even a sparkling cast of Margot Robbie, Will Smith and Viola Davis can’t save the film for Lawson.

“Even those stars eventually succumb to ‘Suicide Squad’s’ grim undertow, Ayer’s script forcing such erratic shifts in character and tone that it would be impossible for even the most nimble and resourceful of actors to keep their footing,” he wrote.

Stephanie Zackarek of Time Magazine calls the movie “dead on arrival” and “chopped and diced and tossed up on the screen” also adding that “so much happens in David Ayer’s DC Comics adaptation ‘Suicide Squad’ that by the end, it’s as if you’ve seen nothing.” One saving grace for Zackarek is Robbie’s Harley Quinn, which is echoed by most of the critics, saying that after her entrance you can leave the movie and won’t have missed anything.

Chris Nashaway of Entertainment Weekly thinks “Suicide Squad” is definitely a step up from “Batman v. Superman” but not a big enough step. He adds that although the characters are colorfully crafted with comic-book wit, the plot falls flat and “the stakes should feel higher”

Todd McCarthy of The Hollywood Reporter sums it all up in his first sentence.

“A puzzlingly confused undertaking that never becomes as cool as it thinks it is, ‘Suicide Squad’ assembles an all-star team of supervillains and then doesn’t know what to do with them.”

But also makes a good point, alluding to the possible success of the film: “What dedicated comics fan wouldn’t show up for his [The Joker’s] big-screen return?”

Peter Travers of Rolling Stone was incredibly let down by the film, arguing that appealing to a wider audience was a huge downfall for the film.

“Who stole the soul of ‘Suicide Squad’? I’d say it’s Ayer’s willingness to go all limp-d–k and compromise his hardcore action bona fides for a PG-13 crowdpleaser that would rather ingratiate than cut deep, or even cut at all,” he writes.

Alonso Duralde of The Wrap calls the film “overstuffed spectacle” that attracts people with a certain style that fails to deliver in the film.

“The film’s ubiquitous posters are psychedelic and outrageously designed, but none of that aesthetic makes it into the final product,” writes Duralde. “And if those posters led you to believe you’d be getting a lot of Leto’s Joker, think again: he’s a tertiary presence here, designed to attract ticket buyers and, presumably, to act as a placeholder for future DC movies.”

David Ehlrich of IndieWire plays on the film’s tagline, “Worst.Heroes.Ever,” saying that “’Suicide Squad’ promises to flip the script on superhero movies by forcing the audience to root for the bad guys. Alas, that wild and crazy idea is the only thing that separates this dank sewer of messy actions beats and misplaced machismo from any of the other films that have come to define its genre.”

But just like with “Batman v. Superman,” which made over $330 million in the domestic box office, unfavorable reviews do not mean that Ayer’s “Suicide Squad” will tank.

“Suicide Squad” opens in theaters on August 5.

[JACK-2]

Rotten Tomatoes is being accused of being Anti-Dc. What do you think?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

I don't think there's some big anti-DC conspiracy. Meta critic gave it low ratings too. I guess it just struck out.

Just a shame their animated stuff is so good and this stuff is turning out to be bad. Marvel is doing much better here.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

It apparently had a huge dropoff Saturday.


www.yahoo.com/movies/box-office-analysis-whats-behind-suicide-squads-huge-201906451.html

The news couldn't have been better for Warner Bros.' DC Extended Universe as Saturday morning dawned over the Aug. 5-7 weekend. Despite horrible reviews, director David Ayer's Suicide Squad took in a mighty $65.1 million at the Friday box office, enough for a $145 million-$150 million North American debut judging by normal modeling analytics.

But foot traffic at theaters across the country fell off dramatically throughout Saturday. Revenue ended up being down 41 percent from Friday to Saturday, a huge decline.

To be sure, Suicide Squad still opened to a huge $135.1 million domestically, wresting the August crown from Marvel and Disney's likewise offbeat superhero film, Guardians of the Galaxy, which debuted to a surprising $94.3 million in 2014 on its way to earning a better-than-expected $773.3 million globally, including $333.2 million domestically.

Read more: Box Office: 'Suicide Squad' Opens to Big $135M But Drops Sharply Saturday

The culprit for the big Saturday drop? Box-office analysts point to poor word-of-mouth following blistering notices and a B+ CinemaScore. That grade might sound okay, but most successful superhero movies generally receive some variation of an A.

A smart marketing campaign that played up the movie's fun and humor certainly succeeded in getting people into theaters, but the film's ultimate potential is in question if those moviegoers who were disappointed by the film's darker tone quickly shared their opinions. In the day of social media, Hollywood studios can no longer cheat an opening weekend.

"While the opening is massive, a title like this should really only fall in the 30 percent range at the outside. It isn't a good sign for playability," says one veteran distribution executive.

Earlier this year, fellow DCEU title Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice also fell steeply on Saturday, although not by as much (38 percent). Like Suicide Squad, Batman v. Superman was skewered by reviewers. And while it earned $872.7 million globally, many had thought $1 billion was a given until the marquee superhero film saw steep declines over subsequent weekends.

Read more: 4 Things That Were Actually Quite Good in 'Suicide Squad'

Warner Bros. says it is more than happy with Suicide Squad's launch. And studio distribution executive Jeff Goldstein says the Friday-to-Saturday drop is due to the fact that the movie took in $20.5 million on Thursday night, which was folded into Friday's gross. "From my perspective, this was an awesome weekend," he says.

But other superhero films that have done huge business in Thursday-night previews haven't fallen as much. Earlier this summer, rival Marvel and Disney's Captain America: Civil War, which earned $27.7 million in previews, fell just 19 percent from Friday to Saturday. And in summer 2015, Marvel's Avengers: Age of Ultron also did massive business on Thursday night before falling 33 percent from Friday to Saturday.

Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool, from Fox and Marvel, are better comps for Suicide Squad, since all three are considered offbeat. Guardians declined 18 percent from Friday to Saturday; Deadpool, a phenomenal 10 percent. Tellingly, both those movies had exceptionally strong legs.

In terms of its CinemaScore, Suicide Squad earned an overall B+, beating the ho-hum B grade for Batman v. Superman. And Goldstein notes that moviegoers under the age of 35 gave Ayer's film an A-, a good sign.

Read more: 'Fantastic Four' Gets Worst CinemaScore Ever for Studio Superhero Movie

But it's a variation of an A grade that studios want for their superhero fare. Deadpool and Guardians both earned an A; ditto for all three films in Warners and Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy.

Marvel Studios' The Avengers earned an A+, followed by an A for Age of Ultron, while all three Captain America movies received a variation of an A. Marvel's first Thor movie received a B+, while the sequel earned an A-. Fox's X-Men: Apocalypse earned an A- earlier this summer and X-Men: Days of Future Past an A.

However, X-Men: First Class, which successfully rebooted the franchise but didn't do mega-business, earned a B+. Other superhero films earning some variation of a B include duds The Green Hornet (B+) and Elektra, Catwoman and Daredevil, all of which earned a B.

[JACK-2]

Well, I haven't seen it. So, I dunno. I saw BVS and that movie was bad, but I don't trust critics. DCEU is on the equivalence of phase one with their cinematic universe. It'll take time to get good, but I'm still rooting for DC. Marvel is way ahead, though.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

DC still has the Nolan verse but they can't hold onto that forever. I'd like to see good movies regardless. If we get a good Flash and Supergirl movie I'd be even happier.

[JACK-2]

I have faith in DC. 2 bad movies imo is not enough to dissuade me. Did you see the trailer for their 2017 slate?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Yea, hopefully they get it in gear with a better direction or something.

What's in store for next year?

[JACK-2]

Here you go:

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

How do you feel about the casting for Flash?

[JACK-2]

I need to see more from Ezra Miller. TBH, when I saw Grant Gustin I didn't think he would be good. He grew on me and I hope Ezra Miller does too.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Yea Grant definitely works in the CW verse. He'd probably be out of place in some of the darker works. People did like the teen Spidey in the Civil War movie though.

[JACK-2]

Miller is going for the whole "Teen Spidey" feel in JLA. He seems quirkier than Gustin.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Which seems odd if they're making the franchise really dark, at least if they're making it darker than Marvel based stuff.

[JACK-2]

They have humor and some lighthearted stuff. But, it's all set in the backdrop of a really somber background.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Have you seen it yet?

[JACK-2]

Aug 12, 2016 6:01:02 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Have you seen it yet?

I haven't seen Suicide Squad yet unfortunately. I'll keep you posted when I do.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sounds good.

[JACK-2]

IGN has got to be one of the most dick-riding sites on earth:

www.ign.com/videos/2016/08/13/the-worlds-biggest-suicide-squad-fan-hated-suicide-squad

But, the anti-DC bandwagon has gotten retard:



LMFAO.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

I'm almost tempted to see both movies just to see what people are going nuts about. I don't think there is some massive conspiracy against DC. Didn't happen with Nolan films. Remember how hyped up TDK was largely because of Ledger?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Review: Suicide Squad Is Almost So Bad It’s Good… But It’s Mostly Bad

Thorough. Harsh title though.

[JACK-2]

Aug 14, 2016 3:42:19 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

I'm almost tempted to see both movies just to see what people are going nuts about. I don't think there is some massive conspiracy against DC. Didn't happen with Nolan films. Remember how hyped up TDK was largely because of Ledger?

Nolans films were around when Marvel's phase one was getting off the ground. I don't think it's a conspiracy, just a bandwagon. I didn't see this much nonsense for Man of Steel which got mixed reviews, but alot of the stuff being said is silly. "DC movies aren't like the comics unlike Marvels"? lolwut? Not saying Suicide Squad is inscrutable, I just want a sober opinion.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Exactly. This is just a Marvel vs DC bandwagon that has gone into the cinematic verse. Even with Nolan you had the Spider-Man and X-Men movies. They didn't have the whole "verse" thing then but it wasn't some setup.

Also the movie being similar to the comics or not has no bearing on whether the movie was actually well made. Movies take liberties all of the time and the quality varies.

That settles it, I'm almost ready to check it out.

[Nyu Nozomi Hyuga]

Aug 12, 2016 6:01:02 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Have you seen it yet?

From what I've seen from Suicide Squad that I went to see on Aug 4, I actually found the movie ok nothing too special. The story itself started from Amanda Waller assembling Task Force X a team of the most dangerous criminals from Belle Reve Penitentiary, and you get to see bits of backgrounds of the main characters, and there is a bit of flashbacks at some point of the movie here are bit details from what I've remember (My memory is going to be a bit flawed) from the movie:

Starting from Deadshot/Floyd Lawton who had a contract to assassinate someone important something involving police related (don't remember) which Deadshot was demanding a higher bounty like 2 million dollars from a crime boss, he is a caring father wanting what is best for his daughter like getting her to nicer schools despite the way he is gaining profits is completely illegal which the daughter getting worried about that eventually led to Batman taking him down and Deadshot trying to kill Batman but his daughter got in the way and doesn't want him to do any more harm.

Then comes Harely Quinn/Dr. Harleen Quinzel who is a former psychiatrist which she wanted to tackle one of insane criminals The Joker which later wind up letting Joker escape and Harely to be along side him. One certain night in a stripe club which Joker was talking to a criminal, then Joker brought over Harely (who was at the strip pole) to seduce him (I think) guy wasn't too interested, and then the guy dies by Joker. Which they were making their getaway, which they wind up being followed by Batman which Joker tried to outrun which winds up just driving in the ocean despite Harely can't swim. Batman went to water searching for Joker only to find Harely which she passed out.

Captain Boomerang/George "Digger" Harkness who is a thief that utilizes a boomerang, Him & other guy were mainly robbing a jewelry and were attempting to rob a bank which the Flash came in and took them out. That is about it.

El Diablo/Chato Santana has the possession on fire which he wound burning a crowd of people, which he had load of stolen money which cause a bit of problem between him & his wife, and ends with him burning the entire house along with his wife & kids.

Killer Croc/Waylon Jones, He was born a skin condition that makes him more like a gator, which makes him monstrous. He was captured somewhere like in a sewer (I think), and that is pretty much it not even footage detailing Killer Croc.

Dr. June Moone is an archaeologist that was exploring at a temple that had a talisman which had a sealed witch which she touches it winds up being possessed by it, which wound up hospitalized and becoming the Enchantress. She can control at will and there are times where she can lose control, she is under the care of Amanda Waller & Colonel Rick Flag to keeping her in control with her transformation.

They are under the hands of Colonel Rick Flag to be used as disposable assets for high-risk missions for the US Government to be tasked for dangerous black ops missions even if means going up against metahumans.

There was meeting at the Pentagon where they were discussing stuff about stopping bigger threats like metahumans, Amanda has bigger & ambitious plans which the government were always on board until Amanda wanted June to transform which she wind up doing which eventually use the artifact to turn her back which June was upset which Amanda wanted her out which she was escorted. One certain night when June lost control she turned into Enchantress which she winds up taking the suitcase which has the artifact to keep it under control while Amanda was sleeping. Which she wound up possessing some random guy to become Incubus her brother she wound up detonating a bomb in the attempt to destroy the earth. Which all the villians including Slipknot (who winds up dead because he was attempting to escape) to start gearing up with all the fancy looking weapons, clothing, & for Captain Boomerang a pink pony. When everyone is ready for take off we now have Katana assisting them in their mission. Rest of the story is straight forward mission to prevent the bomb and save June.

The story itself and bit of interactions with the Team is ok, there honestly wasn't too many funny moments (at least to My experience & memory), and I do find flawed is that the only thing that to Enchantress controlled is just Rick Flag the artifact wasn't with him which is in Amanda's room and all Amanda has been doing is just sleeping.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

So on a scale of 1-10 you'd give it about a 5?

[Nyu Nozomi Hyuga]

Aug 27, 2016 3:52:34 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

So on a scale of 1-10 you'd give it about a 5?

I don't honestly want to rely on scales like 1-10 or 1 out of 5. If I had to score it I'd be using scale like 1-5 which Suicide Squad would be a 3 out of 5. (which it would be 5 by your scale)

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

I was just trying to get an idea for what you were saying.

Did you just feel it was too... average all around. Do you think it is better than BvS? (Can't remember whether you saw that or not).

[Nyu Nozomi Hyuga]

Aug 27, 2016 10:32:09 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

I was just trying to get an idea for what you were saying.

Did you just feel it was too... average all around. Do you think it is better than BvS? (Can't remember whether you saw that or not).

Yeah it was average. Actually in terms of theaters, it is better than Batman vs Superman Dawn of Justice. I've seen it, but I never mentioned.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Did you feel BvS was bad?

[Nyu Nozomi Hyuga]

Aug 27, 2016 17:49:00 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Did you feel BvS was bad?

The thing I found bad from what I remember watching in the theater is mainly involving on what leads to Batman & Superman to fight each other and where it ends, which starts from having messages each other and what made Superman to go against Batman is because Lex Luthor is holding Martha Kent hostage which eventually they settle truce to save Martha, and have them along side Wonder Woman fighting against Doomsday. Wasn't too interest on how part of the story was done, and would've prefer something like Captain America Civil War just going each other for different reasons which they don't wind up agreeing with each other and leading them turning against each other.