Mugen- Rare Akuma

[darthrevan]

A gameplay video showing off the power of Rare Akuma in mugen. It is just crazy.

[Dja Majista]

geez, That shun goku satsu is freakish. That's the most broken thing I've seen in my life.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Don't feel sorry for Nightmare SSJ3, when Evil Ryu and Ken would fight him he'd have an instant death move that he used when his life got low, and he didn't even have to touch him. It's karma really.

[Dja Majista]

lol I don't feel sorry for him at all. They're both cheap bastards. And the way it seems it probably doesn't take much to land the demon hit either, and that's essentially instant death.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

damasta said:

lol I don't feel sorry for him at all. They're both cheap bastards. And the way it seems it probably doesn't take much to land the demon hit either, and that's essentially instant death.

No this move hit all over the screen no block.

[darthrevan]

I've just played Rare Akuma. I held out a Tatsu Maki Sen Puu Kyaku for over 30 seconds. Juggling the other character the whole time. There is also a move where a small Akuma comes out and starts attacking the other player. It is just so messed up.

[Dja Majista]

admin said:

damasta said:

lol I don't feel sorry for him at all. They're both cheap bastards. And the way it seems it probably doesn't take much to land the demon hit either, and that's essentially instant death.

No this move hit all over the screen no block.

Yeah but he also has to wait until he's almost dead. Gouki's cheaper man and you know it.
Honestly they're both cheap shit and none of them deserve to live but Gouki is just a bit cheaper.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

damasta said:

admin said:

No this move hit all over the screen no block.

Yeah but he also has to wait until he's almost dead. Gouki's cheaper man and you know it.
Honestly they're both cheap shit and none of them deserve to live but Gouki is just a bit cheaper.

Either his life is on red or it's a certain time of the round, you have to connect the raging demon, that move was an instant no way out kill move. There's nothing cheaper than that. Even characters that can't be grabbed, giant sized, or are in pairs could be killed. Shungokusatsu might be cheap but it's still limited. I remember when my brother got nailed by one in the air on Dramatic mode on SFA3.

Seriously, there's some cheap stuff on MUGEN, that raging demon is nothing.

[Dja Majista]

I'm sure there's stuff that's cheaper. But I mean that raging demon isn't hard to connect at all and for rare akuma, he can just throw it out whenever he wants. If he misses, he just does it again. lol.
Apparently there's a condition for nightmare.
Well anyway, the ideal cheapest move you could possibly make in a MUGEN is an undodgeable/screen filling, unblockable, instant kill, that takes one button to execute, and can be used at any time. raging demon is instant kill, unblockable, difficult to dodge (not quite undodgeable), and completely conditionless. it only completely fails the cheapness test in the command execution, because at certain speeds the "instant hell murder" (sounds like some microwavable product ) can be very difficult to pull off for some. Whereas Nightmare's is conditional but he has everything else to the best of my knowledge.

that raging demon is nothing.

I'm no stranger to MUGEN, and that is bolshevik bullshit.

[darthrevan]

damasta said:

I'm sure there's stuff that's cheaper. But I mean that raging demon isn't hard to connect at all and for rare akuma, he can just throw it out whenever he wants. If he misses, he just does it again. lol.

If someone missed the shungokusatsu with rare akuma they must really really suck. It is a an auto hit attack. He was made to always connect.

[Dja Majista]

darthrevan said:

damasta said:

I'm sure there's stuff that's cheaper. But I mean that raging demon isn't hard to connect at all and for rare akuma, he can just throw it out whenever he wants. If he misses, he just does it again. lol.

If someone missed the shungokusatsu with rare akuma they must really really suck. It is a an auto hit attack. He was made to always connect.

well there ya go.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

damasta said:

I'm sure there's stuff that's cheaper. But I mean that raging demon isn't hard to connect at all and for rare akuma, he can just throw it out whenever he wants. If he misses, he just does it again. lol.
Apparently there's a condition for nightmare.
Well anyway, the ideal cheapest move you could possibly make in a MUGEN is an undodgeable/screen filling, unblockable, instant kill, that takes one button to execute, and can be used at any time. raging demon is instant kill, unblockable, difficult to dodge (not quite undodgeable), and completely conditionless. it only completely fails the cheapness test in the command execution, because at certain speeds the "instant hell murder" (sounds like some microwavable product ) can be very difficult to pull off for some. Whereas Nightmare's is conditional but he has everything else to the best of my knowledge.

that raging demon is nothing.

I'm no stranger to MUGEN, and that is bolshevik bullshit.

It depends on which version, that Raging Demon isn't new, and G. Rugal has a version. The move has always filled the screen and gone across fast, but i like the supersize animation. Nightmare's move was an always win.

And no that isn't BS. Actually there is a character that can't be beaten, he just stands with his hands in the air and is immune to everything. He is a joke character though, probably like that Akuma. It's all custom made so it isn't surprising.

Furthermore MUGEN things are harder to connect because the characers are so souped up and over the top. Gill's Seraphic Wing isn't the big deal it used to be in the real game.

In the end though the Nightmare verion I'm talking about was actually made to be a serious character, unlike the joke version Akuma. He actually was meant to play tactically and has well flushed out A.I. Also he doesn't get knocked back unless it's a big combo so he hits you when you hit him. He can also fly.

[darthrevan]

damasta said:

darthrevan said:

If someone missed the shungokusatsu with rare akuma they must really really suck. It is a an auto hit attack. He was made to always connect.

well there ya go.

There is an exception though. If you are going against Rare Akuma with Rare Akuma, then the shungokusatsu doesn't work. They made him immune to those attacks. I find it awesome when Ryu does a shinkou hadoken, and I (as Rare Akuma) knocks it away.

[Dja Majista]

admin said:

damasta said:

I'm sure there's stuff that's cheaper. But I mean that raging demon isn't hard to connect at all and for rare akuma, he can just throw it out whenever he wants. If he misses, he just does it again. lol.
Apparently there's a condition for nightmare.
Well anyway, the ideal cheapest move you could possibly make in a MUGEN is an undodgeable/screen filling, unblockable, instant kill, that takes one button to execute, and can be used at any time. raging demon is instant kill, unblockable, difficult to dodge (not quite undodgeable), and completely conditionless. it only completely fails the cheapness test in the command execution, because at certain speeds the "instant hell murder" (sounds like some microwavable product ) can be very difficult to pull off for some. Whereas Nightmare's is conditional but he has everything else to the best of my knowledge.


I'm no stranger to MUGEN, and that is bolshevik bullshit.

It depends on which version, that Raging Demon isn't new, and G. Rugal has a version. The move has always filled the screen and gone across fast, but i like the supersize animation.

we are talking about the version in the video still correct?

Nightmare's move was an always win.

1000 hit shungokusatsu isn't. ok.

And no that isn't BS. Actually there is a character that can't be beaten, he just stands with his hands in the air and is immune to everything. He is a joke character though, probably like that Akuma. It's all custom made so it isn't surprising.

Furthermore MUGEN things are harder to connect because the characers are so souped up and over the top. Gill's Seraphic Wing isn't the big deal it used to be in the real game.

You were saying a move was "nothing" because there are things out there that are a little better. That's why I said bullshit. You can't say that particular demon hit is nothing no matter how ya slice it. On the cheapness scale, it is quasi-perfect even by MUGEN standards.

In the end though the Nightmare verion I'm talking about was actually made to be a serious character, unlike the joke version Akuma. He actually was meant to play tactically and has well flushed out A.I. Also he doesn't get knocked back unless it's a big combo so he hits you when you hit him. He can also fly.

So good A.I. means it was meant for serious competition... anyway serious character or joke character, whatever, I thought this was about the moves.

Honestly, I thought the argument was "which move is cheaper?" Not which character is cheaper.

There is an exception though. If you are going against Rare Akuma with Rare Akuma, then the shungokusatsu doesn't work. They made him immune to those attacks. I find it awesome when Ryu does a shinkou hadoken, and I (as Rare Akuma) knocks it away.

That is friggin cheap! I mean sweet! I'm gonna go download me some rare akuma tonight. Any chance you could post a link for me?

[darthrevan]

Behold the power. The Power!
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[Dja Majista]

shin no chara... MESSATEMU!!!

[darthrevan]

yatta!

[Dja Majista]

This is fun. I can kill anybody without even using the d-pad.
This akuma is...
SHOUSHI!!!

[Dja Majista]

check this out, that last match is awesome. The quote that came in was so appropriate.

[darthrevan]

Are you talking about where it said, "You may have to rethink your strategy gentlemen." That was awesome, and it fit in with the situation.

[Dja Majista]

yeah, it was freakin sweet... I'm gonna watch it again!

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

damasta said:

admin said:

we are talking about the version in the video still correct?


1000 hit shungokusatsu isn't. ok.


You were saying a move was "nothing" because there are things out there that are a little better. That's why I said bullshit. You can't say that particular demon hit is nothing no matter how ya slice it. On the cheapness scale, it is quasi-perfect even by MUGEN standards.


So good A.I. means it was meant for serious competition... anyway serious character or joke character, whatever, I thought this was about the moves.

Honestly, I thought the argument was "which move is cheaper?" Not which character is cheaper.

There is an exception though. If you are going against Rare Akuma with Rare Akuma, then the shungokusatsu doesn't work. They made him immune to those attacks. I find it awesome when Ryu does a shinkou hadoken, and I (as Rare Akuma) knocks it away.

That is friggin cheap! I mean sweet! I'm gonna go download me some rare akuma tonight. Any chance you could post a link for me?

Hits don't matter though, the point is it's custom. I can make a character who can wipe any character away with one hit anytime. That's why I'm saying it's nothing. MUGEN is fully custom, so it shouldn't be considered anything too unusual. Many versions of Gouki have an instant kill raging demon that is exactly like the one of CvsSNK2. It's something, but not the worst thing *I've* seen.

If you're simply going by the move, a move that can kill everything on the screen all the time with no block is cheaper than a grab move. The conditions themselves are based on the characters though.

[Dja Majista]

admin said:

damasta said:

admin said:

we are talking about the version in the video still correct?


1000 hit shungokusatsu isn't. ok.


You were saying a move was "nothing" because there are things out there that are a little better. That's why I said bullshit. You can't say that particular demon hit is nothing no matter how ya slice it. On the cheapness scale, it is quasi-perfect even by MUGEN standards.


So good A.I. means it was meant for serious competition... anyway serious character or joke character, whatever, I thought this was about the moves.

Honestly, I thought the argument was "which move is cheaper?" Not which character is cheaper.



That is friggin cheap! I mean sweet! I'm gonna go download me some rare akuma tonight. Any chance you could post a link for me?

Hits don't matter though, the point is it's custom. I can make a character who can wipe any character away with one hit anytime. That's why I'm saying it's nothing. MUGEN is fully custom, so it shouldn't be considered anything too unusual. Many versions of Gouki have an instant kill raging demon that is exactly like the one of CvsSNK2. It's something, but not the worst thing *I've* seen.

lol when did I ever say it was the worst thing in MUGEN? The point is most people would classify that as "extremely cheap" even by mugen standards.

If you're simply going by the move, a move that can kill everything on the screen all the time with no block is cheaper than a grab move. The conditions themselves are based on the characters though.

No I see what your saying. But that move in particular requires a condition in order to be executed regardless of who the character is. The condition itself is exclusive to that move and no other; that's why I think it is part of the move.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

damasta said:

admin said:

lol when did I ever say it was the worst thing in MUGEN? The point is most people would classify that as "extremely cheap" even by mugen standards.

If you're simply going by the move, a move that can kill everything on the screen all the time with no block is cheaper than a grab move. The conditions themselves are based on the characters though.

No I see what your saying. But that move in particular requires a condition in order to be executed regardless of who the character is. The condition itself is exclusive to that move and no other; that's why I think it is part of the move.

Well the power argument is subjective.

That instant death move was a level 3 super before they toned it down for the tourneys.

[Dja Majista]

admin said:

damasta said:

admin said:

lol when did I ever say it was the worst thing in MUGEN? The point is most people would classify that as "extremely cheap" even by mugen standards.


No I see what your saying. But that move in particular requires a condition in order to be executed regardless of who the character is. The condition itself is exclusive to that move and no other; that's why I think it is part of the move.

Well the power argument is subjective.

That instant death move was a level 3 super before they toned it down for the tourneys.

power argument? which one's that?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

The first one about cheapness, lolz. I'm happy that I'm close to finished with these items. ;D

[Dja Majista]

admin said:

The first one about cheapness, lolz. I'm happy that I'm close to finished with these items. ;D

Oh well in that case. You're subjective. so nya. ;D

what items?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

damasta said:

admin said:

The first one about cheapness, lolz. I'm happy that I'm close to finished with these items. ;D

Oh well in that case. You're subjective. so nya. ;D

what items?

Aren't we all?

[Dja Majista]

No just you.
...
what items were you talking aboot?

I'm happy that I'm close to finished with these items. ;D

[violent2dope]

Dark Dan is more powerful, if he pulls off his finisher, it shuts the game off. Oh, and SSJ5 Goku is definately stronger, so overpowered he's boring.