Pyron vs. The Entire DBZ universe

[violent2dope]

Made this on KMC in the anime forum, most thot Pyron won, as did I. I wanna know what you all think. Pyron is capable of many things, I can get scans later, but right now I can provide a vid of the OVA that focuses on Pyron's power, note that it shows how he fights and his different attacks and stuff but OVA Pyron is by far weaker than canon Pyron.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

violent2dope said:

Made this on KMC in the anime forum, most thot Pyron won, as did I. I wanna know what you all think. Pyron is capable of many things, I can get scans later, but right now I can provide a vid of the OVA that focuses on Pyron's power, note that it shows how he fights and his different attacks and stuff but OVA Pyron is by far weaker than canon Pyron.

Pyron wins, he just eats/destroys whatever battlefield they are on and most of them suffocate.

[violent2dope]

Lol, I forgot to mention, this takes place in the hyperbolic time chamber, and endless dimension.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

violent2dope said:

Lol, I forgot to mention, this takes place in the hyperbolic time chamber, and endless dimension.

Pyron.

[jackred]

Most people of DBZ Universe would kill him like he was butter and they were knives i am being dead seriously he won't even be able to beat the younger ones.

[violent2dope]

jackred said:

Most people of DBZ Universe would kill him like he was butter and they were knives i am being dead seriously he won't even be able to beat the younger ones.

Hahahahaha...no. Pyron is far faster, stronger, more durable, more versatile, and more powerful, and has much more fighting experience. Pyron could pop a planet between his fingers, hell, he could crush one with his pinky tip, he's the size of the sun dude.

[Dja Majista]

DBZ<DBGT
Do you think DBGT would make for a better match up?
I'm asking because I haven't watched DBGT.

[violent2dope]

DBGT=noncanon, and the feats in there were actually less impressive than DBZ.

How will Goku kill Pyron? Punch him? Goku is not that physically strong man...in his base form he can only lift at most 10 tons(no shit).

[darthrevan]

Of course he won't punch him. He would just use energy attacks. At the beginning of DBZ Vegeta was able to easily destroy planets, and he literally did a shot with two fingers. Over the course of the show, the characters got literally houndreds of thousands of times stronger.

Goku at the beginning of DBZ power level: 600
Goku at the end of DBZ: 180,000,000
Goku after merging with Shenlong: roughly 1,000,000,000

They are stronger than what you think. They might not be as strong in hand to hand combat, but their energy is enormous.

[violent2dope]

darthrevan said:

Of course he won't punch him. He would just use energy attacks. At the beginning of DBZ Vegeta was able to easily destroy planets, and he literally did a shot with two fingers. Over the course of the show, the characters got literally houndreds of thousands of times stronger.

Goku at the beginning of DBZ power level: 600
Goku at the end of DBZ: 180,000,000
Goku after merging with Shenlong: roughly 1,000,000,000

They are stronger than what you think. They might not be as strong in hand to hand combat, but their energy is enormous.

Vegeta never destroyed a planet in the canon manga, only the anime. Also, I don't buy the progression of power bull that DBZ goers do, I want feats. Also, Goku's powerlevel is unknown, the list you're getting those figures from(and I know you are ) directly states that after the Frieza saga, powerlevels are unknown and they are only speculating.

Goku merging with Shenron was once again in the noncanon GT, and that powerlevel is pure speculation.

Pyron's energy is larger, that's the funny thing.

[darthrevan]

So what if they weren't that strong in the manga? That doesn't change the fact that they were that strong. I think you are just making up excuses for this Pyron dude to win.

Did Freeza blow up a planet in the manga? After that saga in the anime, Vegeta is a lot stronger than Freeza. If Freeza could do it, then a much stronger Vegeta can.

[violent2dope]

darthrevan said:

So what if they weren't that strong in the manga? That doesn't change the fact that they were that strong. I think you are just making up excuses for this Pyron dude to win.

Did Freeza blow up a planet in the manga? After that saga in the anime, Vegeta is a lot stronger than Freeza. If Freeza could do it, then a much stronger Vegeta can.

1. Manga is canon, anime is not, period. Manga shows what they can do, as it was Akira Toriyama's actual creation, anime is an adaption based on it, or did Piccolo and Goku really take a driving test? Anime canon? Okay, Goku can be hurt by a rock falling on his head, and he and Piccolo struggle to lift a bus.

2. Yeah, by setting off its core, and it took five minutes. Also, he did a specific attack, one that is meant to bust planets, Vegeta could only do it if he were to be really high up and then perform Final Flash(which he almost did). Pyron on the other hand has pinky tips bigger than earth and planets are part of his daily appetite. He is also much faster than any DBZ character, able to fly far in excess of lightspeeds, in 3 years he flew to Earth from the other side of the universe(it would take light billions of years to do the same thing), he can manipulate matter, energy, and absorb them both, he can control cosmic fire, generate heat, change his shape, form, and size, and a bunch of other crap.

Pyron wins, and he sure as hell isn't being taken out by the younger, early DBZ characters.

[Dja Majista]

DBGT=noncanon, and the feats in there were actually less impressive than DBZ.

Ah I see. I didn't know that. huh.

darthrevan said:

Of course he won't punch him. He would just use energy attacks. At the beginning of DBZ Vegeta was able to easily destroy planets, and he literally did a shot with two fingers. Over the course of the show, the characters got literally houndreds of thousands of times stronger.

Goku at the beginning of DBZ power level: 600
Goku at the end of DBZ: 180,000,000
Goku after merging with Shenlong: roughly 1,000,000,000

They are stronger than what you think. They might not be as strong in hand to hand combat, but their energy is enormous.

Geez, that's what I hate about DBZ characters. They're just so damn inconsistent.
It's like this...
Piccolo: Oh, man. I can't seem to defeat this monkey... *gasp*... guess I'll just blow up the moon instead...
*kaboomskees goes the moon*
Piccolo: huh huh. Problem solved!

Vegeta: Well, I'm gonna point my fingers at this planet and blow it up now.
Nappa: Oooooo, that's pretty impressive Vegeta.
--Much later in the series--
Frieza: I'm Frieza. I'm gonna blow up this planet with my fingers now...
*boomskies*
*oooo ahhhh* *applause*

OK so if they're gonna treat celestial bodies as chunks of cheese scattered throughout space, what makes Earth so damn durable in comparison? I mean, it gets hit with so many direct blasts from high level characters it's ridiculous.

Alright so that's just me being nit picky honestly. My main problem with the series is that, despite how much they progress, they show no new feats; none that we haven't seen in the previous episodes. The fighting formula is the same: they move so fast you can't see them; they punch super fast; when they get tired, they go back and throw a big fat energy blast at their opponent (or they get mad and throw a bunch of little ones).
They essentially do the same things, except the power level readers just put different numbers on the fight, and well they break at different times too.

This is a good point though; they will be firing energy at Pyron, not punching him. Though I don't think the power levels actually work on a directly proportional scale (Meaning 600 is not necessarily twice as powerful as 300). I heard that somewhere anyway. Either way, I know very little about Pyron, so I'm gonna keep out of this one.

[darthrevan]

damasta said:

Either way, I know very little about Pyron, so I'm gonna keep out of this one.

I don't know too much either. From what I've seen, he looks just like DBZ level, so I don't see how people say he is going to win right off the bat.

[violent2dope]

darthrevan said:

damasta said:

Either way, I know very little about Pyron, so I'm gonna keep out of this one.

I don't know too much either. From what I've seen, he looks just like DBZ level, so I don't see how people say he is going to win right off the bat.

DBZ level? Maybe on the vid I posted, but as I said that was OVA Pyron, who is much weaker. I posted that do demonstrate how he fights and what different kinds of attacks he can use.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Manga is canon so therefore it's the storyline that counts, so it's the evidence we use. DBZ is horribly inconsistent, but Pyron really does win. The guy is like Galactus, he eats planets with little trouble. He is really a living star.

[JACK-2]

Pyron, I mean there isn't much that the Z-senshi could do to him.

-Atom Ant Out

[violent2dope]

admin said:

Manga is canon so therefore it's the storyline that counts, so it's the evidence we use. DBZ is horribly inconsistent, but Pyron really does win. The guy is like Galactus, he eats planets with little trouble. He is really a living star.

He's like Big G, but even I wouldn't put Pyron on his level.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

violent2dope said:

admin said:

Manga is canon so therefore it's the storyline that counts, so it's the evidence we use. DBZ is horribly inconsistent, but Pyron really does win. The guy is like Galactus, he eats planets with little trouble. He is really a living star.

He's like Big G, but even I wouldn't put Pyron on his level.

You don't think so, I remember you saying something about this before. Why would you isolate their levels?

[violent2dope]

admin said:

violent2dope said:

He's like Big G, but even I wouldn't put Pyron on his level.

You don't think so, I remember you saying something about this before. Why would you isolate their levels?

Big G destroys galaxies in fights and at full power can eat the universe...Pyron can't.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

violent2dope said:

admin said:

You don't think so, I remember you saying something about this before. Why would you isolate their levels?

Big G destroys galaxies in fights and at full power can eat the universe...Pyron can't.

That's a good point, plus Big G is considered necessary for the Universe to exist. The only thing is that he's never at full power and his "hunger" tends to be a plot device. But speculation wise he is stronger.

[violent2dope]

admin said:

violent2dope said:

Big G destroys galaxies in fights and at full power can eat the universe...Pyron can't.

That's a good point, plus Big G is considered necessary for the Universe to exist. The only thing is that he's never at full power and his "hunger" tends to be a plot device. But speculation wise he is stronger.

Pyron could possibly beat a hungry Big G, not a full power one tho. Glimpses of his full power have been shown, and one other thing to remember is his Heralds, they alone have very impressive feats, that they do using a fraction of the Power Cosmic, which is Big G's power.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

violent2dope said:

admin said:

That's a good point, plus Big G is considered necessary for the Universe to exist. The only thing is that he's never at full power and his "hunger" tends to be a plot device. But speculation wise he is stronger.

Pyron could possibly beat a hungry Big G, not a full power one tho. Glimpses of his full power have been shown, and one other thing to remember is his Heralds, they alone have very impressive feats, that they do using a fraction of the Power Cosmic, which is Big G's power.

His heralds are strong I don't consider them Pyron strong however. Do you think Pyron could beat Superman?

[violent2dope]

admin said:

violent2dope said:

Pyron could possibly beat a hungry Big G, not a full power one tho. Glimpses of his full power have been shown, and one other thing to remember is his Heralds, they alone have very impressive feats, that they do using a fraction of the Power Cosmic, which is Big G's power.

His heralds are strong I don't consider them Pyron strong however. Do you think Pyron could beat Superman?

No, I think he would shitstomp Superman. What is Supes gonna do, PUNCH HIM!?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Supes is a living plot device, he has T-Vo!

[violent2dope]

admin said:

Supes is a living plot device, he has T-Vo!

And Pyron has t3H gIan7 f1AmiNG Fi57!

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Yea he does!

[violent2dope]

I'm not sayind this to anyone, but it cracks me the hell up.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

violent2dope said:

I'm not sayind this to anyone, but it cracks me the hell up.

That is funny, they never get old.

[violent2dope]

admin said:

violent2dope said:

I'm not sayind this to anyone, but it cracks me the hell up.

That is funny, they never get old.

You know what that is parodying right?

I don't care if you do or don't, it's a parody of a famous scene in the anime(where the pic is from) when Vegeta exclaims about Goku,"His power level...It's over 9,000!"