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Post by Psyquis52 on May 22, 2008 22:57:40 GMT -5
Do new additions to old movie series stack up to the old?
Rocky Balboa - Rocky series
Rambo - Rambo series
Indiana Jones 4 - Indiana Jones series
Episodes 1, 2, 3 - Star Wars
Avp 1, 2 - Alien or Predator series
Halloween (Rob Zombie) - Halloween series
and what not.
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Post by Sinistrous on May 23, 2008 13:37:18 GMT -5
It depends upon a lot of different elements. In Halloween's case, the most blatant difference is the director, and quite frankly Rob Zombie does not have shit on John Carpenter and I'm not even a huge fan of Carpenter. The latest Star Wars trilogy suffers from the fact that Lucas just doesn't have the energy he used to have; he even messed with the original trilogy in terrible, terrible ways. On the other hand, I can see the new Indiana Jones working out.
As for the rest, I only saw the second half of AvP on television and hated it; I could not for the life of me figure out what they were thinking. I haven't seen the latest Rambo or Rocky movies.
Generally speaking, no, they don't quite stack up.
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Post by EsteemedLeader© on May 24, 2008 2:51:47 GMT -5
Rob Zombie's Halloween is a disgusting pile of shit. Any redeeming feature was carbon-copied from the original. Any new element or alteration Zombie added was terrible and I hated it, the only exception being that it was visually more impressive and he could get away with more gore, both due to the times and not Zombie's creative control. That girl with the oddly assembled face sucked compared to Jamie Lee Curtis, and though I am a fan of Malcolm McDowell he couldn't lay a finger on Donald Pleasence's performance of one of my favorite movie roles. The origin story was uninteresting and drawn-out, the ending sucked, Myers wasn't creepy, and there was a stunning underutilization of talent.
This movie should not have been made.
And this is coming from a fan of Rob Zombie. House of 1000 Corpses was well enough, and Devil's Rejects was amazingly good. He just really, REALLY dropped the ball on this one.
AVP was mildly entertaining. I watched it today as a matter of fact. I find the entirety of the AVP universe to be unfaithful to the originals, but enjoy it as just a crossover. The fight scenes are good, the characters don't make you hate life, Lance Henriksen is in it. The plot itself isn't terrible but they read too much into it. At least it set the events up and offered a good setting though. And you gotta love the little references they put in the movie.
AVP Requiem blows. It doesn't even feel like an Alien or Predator movie at all. With none of the visually impressive action sequences that make AVP fun to watch and far too much character development for people that are going to die in like eight seconds anyway, and annoying and far too dark cinematography, it offers up absolutely nothing.
I haven't seen the new Rambo, but I can't see how it would be bad. I've never seen any Rocky movie. I'm going to see Kingdom of the Crystal Skull on monday.
And let me make this perfectly clear:
There are only THREE Star Wars movies. 3. Tres. Got that?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on May 25, 2008 7:47:31 GMT -5
Do new additions to old movie series stack up to the old? Rocky Balboa - Rocky series Rambo - Rambo series Indiana Jones 4 - Indiana Jones series Episodes 1, 2, 3 - Star Wars Avp 1, 2 - Alien or Predator series Halloween (Rob Zombie) - Halloween series and what not. AVP 1 and 2 were okay in the aspect of bringing the movies into the current age. However it just didn't have the impact and creativeness that the originals had when the developers had a unique idea. If you look up the concepts for the Ailen series, you'd see that it was quite different from most films at the time, and that's why it was such a hit. |
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Post by Magic attack on May 26, 2008 20:54:50 GMT -5
Rocky Balboa - Rocky series
I found this to be a good movie. Rocky finally gets to move on with his life. It is tough for an athlete to get older and not be able to compete. I think the fight was a little unbelievable, but the movie was enjoyable.
Rambo - Rambo series
Another movie that I enjoyed. I think the reason that I liked the 2 Stallone movies is that they finally give closure to each series.
Indiana Jones 4 - Indiana Jones series
I found this movie enjoyable. Similar to the 2 Stallone movies in that a character has to come back and reprise his old role.
Episodes 1, 2, 3 - Star Wars
Now we get to some of the bad ones. I was not a fan of Episodes 1 or 2. 3 had some good scenes. But Hayden's poor acting hurt the entire series. All of which I blame on GL.
Avp 1, 2 - Alien or Predator series
Not great renditions of either series. 1st AvP was an ok movie on its own. AvP-R sucked.
Halloween (Rob Zombie) - Halloween series
The movie should not have been remade as the original is still very watchable by todays standards. Although I was happy to see Danielle Harris' breasts, that wasn't enough to save the movie in my opinion.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on May 26, 2008 20:57:25 GMT -5
You know your movies, lol.
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Post by Magic attack on May 26, 2008 21:11:44 GMT -5
I just happen to enjoy downloading and watching them.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on May 26, 2008 21:21:08 GMT -5
I know, lol. Do you know anything about adjusting the time on here? It's 15 minutes off.
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Post by EsteemedLeader© on May 26, 2008 21:51:02 GMT -5
I saw Indy 4 today and was majorly dissappointed. It isn't just in the vein that it failed to live up to its precursors, I just don't think it was a very interesting movie.
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Post by Magic attack on May 26, 2008 21:57:46 GMT -5
You think they should have stopped after the trilogy?
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Post by EsteemedLeader© on May 26, 2008 22:13:52 GMT -5
I think they should have made the fourth movie not suck. I could have written a better movie.
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Post by Magic attack on May 26, 2008 22:30:57 GMT -5
I think we got as good as we can get from GL and SS.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on May 27, 2008 10:01:09 GMT -5
I think they should have made the fourth movie not suck. I could have written a better movie. So what was wrong with it to you exactly? |
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Post by Psyquis52 on May 29, 2008 0:34:36 GMT -5
I'm completely expecting it to suck since SS and GL lost their stuff a while back.
SS has been missing since Amistad or Saving Private Ryan (can't remember which was last)
And GL has been missing since....well....The Last Crusade.
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Post by EsteemedLeader© on May 29, 2008 3:39:03 GMT -5
So what was wrong with it to you exactly? How do you go from Nazis to FUCKING INTERDIMENSIONAL BEINGS? ARE YOU SHITTING ME!? Other than that, I felt it was toned down. Indy doesn't really kill anybody directly, I don't even recall him ever firing his gun in the movie. |
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Post by Sinistrous on May 31, 2008 18:06:52 GMT -5
I'm completely expecting it to suck since SS and GL lost their stuff a while back. SS has been missing since Amistad or Saving Private Ryan (can't remember which was last) And GL has been missing since....well....The Last Crusade. Yeah, but Spielberg's always been inconsistent. He has that tendency to use cheap sentimental cues in movies like Saving Private Ryan and Schindler's List as well as E.T. With material like Indiana Jones and Jaws however, he has less room to use them and they tend to end up a lot better. Agreed on GL though. Ugh. |
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Post by Blaze72 on Sept 8, 2011 8:04:01 GMT -5
[/quote]AVP 1 and 2 were okay in the aspect of bringing the movies into the current age. However it just didn't have the impact and creativeness that the originals had when the developers had a unique idea. If you look up the concepts for the Ailen series, you'd see that it was quite different from most films at the time, and that's why it was such a hit. [/quote]
The whole AVP idea got shitted on when comparing to the comics & Games.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 8, 2011 8:15:48 GMT -5
AVP 1 and 2 were okay in the aspect of bringing the movies into the current age. However it just didn't have the impact and creativeness that the originals had when the developers had a unique idea. If you look up the concepts for the Ailen series, you'd see that it was quite different from most films at the time, and that's why it was such a hit. [/quote] The whole AVP idea got shitted on when comparing to the comics & Games.[/quote]That latest movie didn't have the impact of the original, but the original was also something new and scary at the time (even though it was actually less violent). |
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Post by Blaze72 on Sept 10, 2011 8:55:19 GMT -5
The first movie was toned down in the gore department, but then they did the second which got it right on that part but was'nt quite as good.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 10, 2011 9:11:13 GMT -5
The first movie was toned down in the gore department, but then they did the second which got it right on that part but was'nt quite as good. That's what happens. They use violence as a substitute for story. Which is why you get things like this. |
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Post by Blaze72 on Oct 21, 2011 8:48:21 GMT -5
But the AVP movies needs the Gore factor since the pred's are involved.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Oct 21, 2011 10:53:02 GMT -5
As long as the writing is good, it's fine. It's just when it isn't good...
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Post by Coolest thing Alive on Nov 1, 2011 23:17:13 GMT -5
The updated Halloween and recent additions to Star Wars were great. But to show you how bad the other movies were, compared to their originals, I can remember almost everything about the older movies and virtually nothin bout the newer films. And the up-to-date films are the films I just recently seen.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Nov 2, 2011 1:20:01 GMT -5
The updated Halloween and recent additions to Star Wars were great. But to show you how bad the other movies were, compared to their originals, I can remember almost everything about the older movies and virtually nothin bout the newer films. And the up-to-date films are the films I just recently seen. They're now trying to do Robocop over. |
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Post by Blaze72 on Nov 15, 2011 7:15:23 GMT -5
The updated Halloween and recent additions to Star Wars were great. But to show you how bad the other movies were, compared to their originals, I can remember almost everything about the older movies and virtually nothin bout the newer films. And the up-to-date films are the films I just recently seen. Only problem maybe for the Star Wars prequel was some of the acting for it but then again Star Wars was'nt all about the acting How about the old Batman movies compared to the New ones? |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Nov 15, 2011 7:46:24 GMT -5
The Nolan ones are great. Some of the old Batman flicks were cheesy, as were most Superhero flicks.
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Post by Blaze72 on Nov 16, 2011 3:29:34 GMT -5
The Nolan ones are great. Some of the old Batman flicks were cheesy, as were most Superhero flicks. \ yeah they've gotten better doing the Superhero movies thesedays cept you still get a bad adaptation now and then. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Nov 16, 2011 6:42:38 GMT -5
The Nolan ones are great. Some of the old Batman flicks were cheesy, as were most Superhero flicks. \ yeah they've gotten better doing the Superhero movies thesedays cept you still get a bad adaptation now and then. Yea, after Spider-Man the overall quality of Superhero flicks has improved dramatically. Some say Spider-Man hasn't aged all too well, but it was a solid flick. There are still some bombs here and there of course. |
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Post by Blaze72 on Nov 16, 2011 6:52:37 GMT -5
A while back i was looking foward to seeing that Jonah Hex movie but then when it got release with all the bad reviews  |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Nov 16, 2011 7:23:28 GMT -5
A while back i was looking foward to seeing that Jonah Hex movie but then when it got release with all the bad reviews Still check it out, you may like it. |
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