Pokemon Is Serious Business

[Squid Lord]

bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Catch_rate

the equation that tells you the likely hood of catching a Pokemon, documented and proven...read up.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jul 20, 2008 14:18:01 GMT -5 Squid Lord said:

bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Catch_rate

the equation that tells you the likely hood of catching a Pokemon, documented and proven...read up.

I'm liking the website itself, I'll have to look it up more. Bulbasaur!

[Dja Majista]

Holy crap that is ridiculous...

[Squid Lord]

it's fantasmic! and to think if you used a master ball.....

it'd prlly look somthn' like:

SPOILER: Click to show

switch(ball)
{
case ball!=Master_Ball:
all that math crap;
case ball=Master_ball:
catch the pokemon;
}

lovn' Nintendo atm

[Yoshi]

To be honest, I'm somewhat surprised. I already knew that the pokemon's max HP, current HP, status, and the kind of ball were important in catching a pokemon, but I didn't know that the equation would be so complex.

Anyway, that's still cool.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

It's not that bad really. I hack into games like Duke and BG and there is simply pages and pages of coding for simple things like dropping ammo when the comp dies, it's really complex.

[Yoshi]

Well, I don't know how to hack into games. Do you use some kind of program for it?

[Dja Majista]

you mean mod?

yeah, actually I'm not really that surprised at the complexity. The thing is, programmers don't really care how ridiculous the numbers look or how drawn out the equation is as long as it works. I mean no one ever really sees the equation itself anyway (sans us unlucky souls). A friend and I were looking at damage calculators for his game, and it was really long. I asked him if it was simplified (as it clearly wasn't). He said no, and that it didn't really matter. It's not gonna slow the CPU down or anything.

And most of the time, they work with the equation by running it through simulations. So it's understandable that they'd want to fine tune all their constants perfectly. First they construct it on theory, then they adjust it with actual tests.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Aug 5, 2008 0:16:52 GMT -5 Dja Majista said:

you mean mod?

yeah, actually I'm not really that surprised at the complexity. The thing is, programmers don't really care how ridiculous the numbers look or how drawn out the equation is as long as it works. I mean no one ever really sees the equation itself anyway (sans us unlucky souls). A friend and I were looking at damage calculators for his game, and it was really long. I asked him if it was simplified (as it clearly wasn't). He said no, and that it didn't really matter. It's not gonna slow the CPU down or anything.

And most of the time, they work with the equation by running it through simulations. So it's understandable that they'd want to fine tune all their constants perfectly. First they construct it on theory, then they adjust it with actual tests.

So now you're not surprised?

Anyways yeah, it can be considered hacking depending on your method for getting in the system. It could be modding also, either or.

[Dja Majista]

I just said it was ridiculous. I'll tell you when I was surprised: when Alex showed me his little damage calculator. And of course by little I don't mean little... at all.

[Squid Lord]

acutually, from my experience, the CPU does better with more complex calculations, atleast the ones i was doing. Not on that level, granted, but hey it's pretty complex to me

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Aug 5, 2008 8:13:26 GMT -5 Dja Majista said:

I just said it was ridiculous. I'll tell you when I was surprised: when Alex showed me his little damage calculator. And of course by little I don't mean little... at all.

Holy crap generally isn't used unless it was something surprising, like "Holy Crap that is a large turd in the toilet!"(I'm sure that's happened to all of us. Wouldn't you say that sounded a little surprised?

[Squid Lord]

i'd be surprised if i found anything larger than pickle in the toilet man, armadillo size would make me question what i'm eating #jawdrop0jw#

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

I'm sure there's some really crazy stool out there.

[Squid Lord]

like tacos?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Aug 8, 2008 22:10:12 GMT -5 Squid Lord said:

like tacos?

If it looks like shell and all then yes.

[Squid Lord]

so you're implying that what you eat, will be crapped out in it's original shape before being eaten?

[violent2dope]

Pokemon stopped being serious business for me when they made a Pokemon that was a friggin cherry.

Though I did not know the formula was that complex lol.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Aug 14, 2008 9:45:55 GMT -5 Squid Lord said:

so you're implying that what you eat, will be crapped out in it's original shape before being eaten?

Maybe.

Pokemon was good in it's original form and maybe the second incarnations, but not anything after that.

[Squid Lord]

lol, neither did i, but it makes sense, if you think about it

C, you are completely right



that's terribl

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Aug 15, 2008 14:29:03 GMT -5 Squid Lord said:

lol, neither did i, but it makes sense, if you think about it

C, you are completely right



that's terribl

What monsters do they have now? I remember seeing a flaming monkey or something.

[Yoshi]

Yeah, the fire monkey's name is Chimchar. He's one of the starter pokemon in the fourth generation.

I wasn't able to watch most of the fourth generation pokemon in the anime because I was busy with college and work. I wasn't even able to play Pokemon Diamond or Pearl since I don't have a Nintendo DS.

It won't be long until there's a fifth generation...

Aug 14, 2008 19:59:40 GMT -5 violent2dope said:

Pokemon stopped being serious business for me when they made a Pokemon that was a friggin cherry.

You're still obsessed with that?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Aug 16, 2008 13:37:04 GMT -5 Yoshi said:

Yeah, the fire monkey's name is Chimchar. He's one of the starter pokemon in the fourth generation.

I wasn't able to watch most of the fourth generation pokemon in the anime because I was busy with college and work. I wasn't even able to play Pokemon Diamond or Pearl since I don't have a Nintendo DS.

It won't be long until there's a fifth generation...

Aug 14, 2008 19:59:40 GMT -5 violent2dope said:

Pokemon stopped being serious business for me when they made a Pokemon that was a friggin cherry.

Though I did not know the formula was that complex lol.

You're still obsessed with that?

I haven't watched the show in ages, I have my cards still, but I was watching Yu Gi Oh last, I liked that show and I had it's cards too.

[Yoshi]

I still have my Pokemon cards, too. They're somewhere in my closet because I stopped spending money on them after the first generation.

I never cared about Yu-Gi-Oh.

[JACK-2]

Yu-Gi-Oh is cool, but I don't like the new shows like Gx.

[Yoshi]

Did Yu-Gi-Oh have some good video games? I never played any of them.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Aug 17, 2008 17:52:21 GMT -5 Yoshi said:

I still have my Pokemon cards, too. They're somewhere in my closet because I stopped spending money on them after the first generation.

I never cared about Yu-Gi-Oh.

I liked the second generation some, nevertheless Duelist of the Roses was a fun game.

[Squid Lord]

Duelist of the Roses was the best game on the console, lol. and came with 3 free cards that you can't get anywhere else

i still have all my yu-gi-oh and pokemon cards, and my yu-gi-oh deck is next to my bed at home

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Aug 18, 2008 10:50:51 GMT -5 Squid Lord said:

Duelist of the Roses was the best game on the console, lol. and came with 3 free cards that you can't get anywhere else

i still have all my yu-gi-oh and pokemon cards, and my yu-gi-oh deck is next to my bed at home

I didn't care for the deck cost rules though, a really good deck should be able to own them easily. I sold my yu gi oh for a couple hundred and a palm pilot. I had everything all holographic in both decks. A beatdown/dragon, and a flip effect deck. They complemented each other well.

[JACK-2]

Aug 17, 2008 21:29:58 GMT -5 Yoshi said:

Did Yu-Gi-Oh have some good video games? I never played any of them.

It had a good game for X-Box, that's the only one I played. It's a card simulator, but it was great. Yu-Gi-Oh is really fun, Recommend it.