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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 20, 2009 1:54:54 GMT -5
Anybody read about how the new GTA has full frontal male nudity. I saw the clip and thought it was funny, there's no way that's making the cut. I think rockstar just likes to push the envelope, or get us to lighten up. One or the other.
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Post by Yoshi on Feb 20, 2009 2:06:36 GMT -5
"Soon to be controversy"? I always thought the Grand Theft Auto series was controversial ever since it's first game.
Anyway, I'm sure Rockstar is just supplying us with more reasons why we should avoid playing their games.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 20, 2009 2:15:07 GMT -5
"Soon to be controversy"? I always thought the Grand Theft Auto series was controversial ever since it's first game. Anyway, I'm sure Rockstar is just supplying us with more reasons why we should avoid playing their games. Well this is a newer one lol. So I take it you've never played GTA? |
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Post by Yoshi on Feb 20, 2009 9:45:16 GMT -5
A newer Grand Theft Auto game would just be worse than the previous ones, if that's possible.
The series never interested me, and I don't play video games like that. If it's something that I'd be ashamed to tell my parents about, then I'm not going to play it unless I really want to.
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Post by warmunger on Feb 21, 2009 0:12:47 GMT -5
I don't no Y people feel that video games can B controversial. It's not like GTA is rated E. It's M 4 Mature. Win U by the game U shood no what 2 X-pect.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 22, 2009 20:09:38 GMT -5
That is true, if you don't want to play it, then don't. It's not fair that movies and even cable tv have all kinds of mess on it, but people still target games. Video games aren't just something small children play anymore, adults play it too, otherwise they wouldn't have all this hi-tech stuff out the way it is. Don't get me started with the controversy of male nudity.
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Post by Yoshi on Feb 22, 2009 20:41:24 GMT -5
I don't no Y people feel that video games can B controversial. It's not like GTA is rated E. It's M 4 Mature. Win U by the game U shood no what 2 X-pect. Just because a game has an "M" rating doesn't mean it can be excused for having that kind of stuff in it. That is true, if you don't want to play it, then don't. It's not fair that movies and even cable tv have all kinds of mess on it, but people still target games. People target games because kids have easy access to them, regardless of their ratings. In order to see an "R" rated movie, I believe people have to show their ID. That way, young people can't see the movie unless they sneak in the theater somehow. It's easy for young people to play an "M" rated video game since all they have to do is get someone else to buy it for them. It's likely that the parents won't know about it, though. In fact, they may not even care. *Ignores his request* What are your thoughts about the controversy of male nudity? |
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Post by warmunger on Feb 23, 2009 19:04:50 GMT -5
And Y not?
Win the game clearly warns U of it on the back, or N the costumer agreement contract.
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Post by warmunger on Feb 23, 2009 19:07:13 GMT -5
That is true, if you don't want to play it, then don't. It's not fair that movies and even cable tv have all kinds of mess on it, but people still target games. Video games aren't just something small children play anymore, adults play it too, otherwise they wouldn't have all this hi-tech stuff out the way it is. Don't get me started with the controversy of male nudity. Yup, that's the problem. The general public has 2 understand that games Rn't just 4 kids anymore. It's a mainstream media source now. |
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Post by Yoshi on Feb 24, 2009 12:23:38 GMT -5
No offense to anyone here, but anybody who thinks video games is source of sexual satisfaction needs to see a therapist. And Y not? Win the game clearly warns U of it on the back, or N the costumer agreement contract. Video game companies shouldn't feel the need to go "above and beyond" in certain areas just to satisfy the dirty minds of certain people, and that goes for both adults and teenagers. Do you really think it's okay for a game to have a bunch of innapropriate contentas long as it's "protected" by an "M" rating? If so, then do you think it's okay for a game to be made if it's centered around pedophiles having sex with little children as long as it's excused with an "M" rating? I hope not... |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 24, 2009 12:47:09 GMT -5
No offense to anyone here, but anybody who thinks video games is source of sexual satisfaction needs to see a therapist. And Y not? Win the game clearly warns U of it on the back, or N the costumer agreement contract. Video game companies shouldn't feel the need to go "above and beyond" in certain areas just to satisfy the dirty minds of certain people, and that goes for both adults and teenagers. Do you really think it's okay for a game to have a bunch of innapropriate contentas long as it's "protected" by an "M" rating? If so, then do you think it's okay for a game to be made if it's centered around pedophiles having sex with little children as long as it's excused with an "M" rating? I hope not... It isn't about so much what you or *I* might like. I like some games that have more content than others (like Duke, but that's just silly content). It's the fact that games should have the right to put what they want in their games, whether a certain group does or doesn't like it. It is up to parents to monitor what their kids play and watch. It's not really fair that movies and tv shows have loads of adult content that is even shown on cable tv (like Niptuck, although I like that show too). Frontal nudity and all of that just isn't a big deal unless it comes to games. I think Rockstar is just making fun of America by putting that in there to show that we make big deals about the wrong issues. Honestly I doubt that the content will even make the cut. It's the hypocrisy that gets on my nerves between games and other media. Using pedophilia is a bit extreme and a strawman. Especially since it's the only thing that follows the slippery slope fallacy. It's ok to go online and watch people get blown to bits or innocent people get killed in gruesome ways, or to play games watching that happen and doing it. Obviously I don't approve of such a game that would allow you to do so and it wouldn't be profitable, but illegal activity is illegal activity. People make such a big deal about sex in general and nothing about violence and violence is what causes far more problems and leads to far more trouble. I just find it dumb that I can go on youtube right now and look at a person have an autopsy or someone get blown to bits, but if a nipple is shown people act like the world is ending. Of course you could see a breast in an autopsy, but does anyone really want to? There are pedophile games made, by pedophiles, often to "groom" children, but that's another disussion entirely. Also gaming companies major consoles won't sale certain controversial and AO games. |
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Post by Dja Majista on Feb 24, 2009 18:03:07 GMT -5
Ok first off. GTA is really fun. Extremely fun.
Second off, parents need to take responsibility for some of the crap they let their kids play/watch. Seriously, 99% of the time the kid just has an overly lenient parent.
Let me say, I have no doubt video games (like many other things) have a powerful influence on childrens' behavior. Most notably, they really bring out the aggression in some people. And if this behavior isn't counteracted and punished by other stronger influences *cough*parents*cough*, they will think it's ok.
Last, GTA has never been a series (I don't think) that has taken itself seriously. It was meant for a mature audience that can see the humor in it. No doubt as well, Rockstar actually anticipated and intended to have some massive controversies associated with their games. And it was a good strategy. After all, the mainstream media has been nice enough advertise quite generously for them.
Truthfully, I think we are all looking at the wrong games though. Look at tetris. All those sharp corners make children want to go out and torture small animals.
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Post by Saikyo Kid on Mar 3, 2009 2:46:59 GMT -5
To be honest, I never cared for GTA, I liked to play it but I was never serious about the games. I felt that GTA was always controversial but tried too hard. Like they do this on purpose cuz people feed into that shit, which most don't. It became gimicy and unnecessary like MK. I think full frontal nudity is just too much for a video game.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 3, 2009 16:09:11 GMT -5
Yea, being purposefully gimmicky is a bad thing, especially when your game has no depth. It always comes out sooner or later anyways.
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Post by Dja Majista on Mar 3, 2009 16:36:26 GMT -5
So is being purposefully gimmicky worse than being accidentally gimmicky?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 3, 2009 18:22:13 GMT -5
So is being purposefully gimmicky worse than being accidentally gimmicky? Hmmm, depends. What would you consider an accidental gimmick? Gimmicks are generally intentional. Unless you mean something just became popular and a niche' for that certain brand of product. |
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Post by Saikyo Kid on Mar 4, 2009 22:41:48 GMT -5
Why do American VG companies feel the need to go so far wit their products? You don't need ULTRA SEX and VIOLENCE to make a cool game. I aint gonna lie and say I don't like that stuff, I do, but there is a place and time for it. God Of War was a good example of it bein done right. It wasn't a gimic, you needed that extra horrible stuff to define Kratos and move the story. Plus it made sense, the game was set in olden times wit unhuman and superhuman characters.
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Post by Yoshi on Mar 5, 2009 0:23:06 GMT -5
A company who makes a very controversial game/series on purpose just to satisfy their craving for attention in the media is truly sad.
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 5, 2009 4:47:02 GMT -5
The media is quite honestly the biggest attention whores of all time, really and subjects like these are just another way the media gets richer. They take these issues and exaggerating them to ridiculous proportions which in turn get people talking. Because people love controversey and at the end of the day theirs no such thing as bad press. Infact, scandals and bad rumours attract the most kind of attention. Which is why the media covers them so much. I just wanna say that controversy, media hype and other things have always in my view been nothing more than distractions when it comes to gaming. At the end of the day they don't matter and many times it involves criticism from people who haven't even played the games in question.
I loved the original GTA way back in the late 90's when I played it for PC. Then they came out with the third one which is the first 3-D GTA and that's when it became popular. By that time I had already fallen out of love with the series. I still played it because the driving around the city was cool and I loved driving games. But, overall I never cared about the controversey. I just played it or I didn't like I do with everything.
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Post by warmunger on Mar 5, 2009 19:22:24 GMT -5
Me too. I cood care less about the controversy, it's fun. They cood put what ever they wanted N the game, well not what ever, but if I like playing it, I will. I didn't no that Yoshi and Alan were such conservative gamers.
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Post by Yoshi on Mar 6, 2009 11:21:31 GMT -5
Well, it runs in my family. We're all Nintendo fans since their games are always appropriate and fun, and I play games made by other video game companies, too.
Note: In case you got confused, Alan isn't related to me.
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Post by Dja Majista on Mar 6, 2009 14:55:25 GMT -5
Alan doesn't sound very conservative to me. Maybe a little more to the left, like a moderate liberal.
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Post by Saikyo Kid on Mar 9, 2009 17:47:25 GMT -5
Yoshi and Alan were such conservative gamers. Wha'dyou say?! Sound's like fightin' words to me! I mean I would play the game if I had the chance, I just think GTA ALWAYS goes a step beyond necessary. Alan doesn't sound very conservative to me. Maybe a little more to the left, like a moderate liberal. When it comes to games, I'm in the middle. Do what you want if it helps to tell a story or get a valid point across. I don't wanna have to see virtual cock when I play my games. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 10, 2009 4:04:45 GMT -5
The media is quite honestly the biggest attention whores of all time, really and subjects like these are just another way the media gets richer. They take these issues and exaggerating them to ridiculous proportions which in turn get people talking. Because people love controversey and at the end of the day theirs no such thing as bad press. Infact, scandals and bad rumours attract the most kind of attention. Which is why the media covers them so much. I just wanna say that controversy, media hype and other things have always in my view been nothing more than distractions when it comes to gaming. At the end of the day they don't matter and many times it involves criticism from people who haven't even played the games in question. I loved the original GTA way back in the late 90's when I played it for PC. Then they came out with the third one which is the first 3-D GTA and that's when it became popular. By that time I had already fallen out of love with the series. I still played it because the driving around the city was cool and I loved driving games. But, overall I never cared about the controversey. I just played it or I didn't like I do with everything. Yea the media isn't innocent in it either, and if I get free advertising then hey. It might be underhanded, but the media exaggerates and lies themselves quite a bit. They'll even pull up foreign games or games that are very old and use them for examples to get a good story. |
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Post by Dja Majista on Mar 10, 2009 22:23:05 GMT -5
Yoshi and Alan were such conservative gamers. Wha'dyou say?! Sound's like fightin' words to me! I mean I would play the game if I had the chance, I just think GTA ALWAYS goes a step beyond necessary. Alan doesn't sound very conservative to me. Maybe a little more to the left, like a moderate liberal. When it comes to games, I'm in the middle. Do what you want if it helps to tell a story or get a valid point across. I don't wanna have to see virtual cock when I play my games. Ok then maybe just a little further to the right, like a moderate-moderate-liberal. |
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Post by warmunger on Mar 11, 2009 23:58:32 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think a conservative gamer wood use the phrase "Virtual Cock", lol.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 13, 2009 1:04:30 GMT -5
Unless it was case specific.
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Post by warmunger on Mar 18, 2009 1:58:30 GMT -5
Lol, wood U say this is case specific?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 18, 2009 2:49:27 GMT -5
Possibly. I might consider this case specific.
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Post by Dja Majista on Mar 18, 2009 14:59:35 GMT -5
No, it couldn't possibly be case specific. A conservative gamer can't say "virtual cock" without having ninjas jump down and bitch slap him through a house. Trust me. I've seen it.
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