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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 13, 2011 0:13:09 GMT -5
Won't work. It's an either or situation. Superman rapes or he gets raped. No gray area. He's stood up to stronger magics though and has fared well.  I suppose with prep he could pack more of a punch. Also prep is really no different than Batman, if he can't react fast enough, preparing for it won't change his reaction speed (unless he were to start the match amped and buffed). And we have to consider Supermans fighting style. Is going lightspeed right away his style? |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 13, 2011 7:42:05 GMT -5
He's stood up to stronger magics though and has fared well. I suppose with prep he could pack more of a punch. Also prep is really no different than Batman, if he can't react fast enough, preparing for it won't change his reaction speed (unless he were to start the match amped and buffed). And we have to consider Supermans fighting style. Is going lightspeed right away his style? Depends on the level of his foe. He can still go several hundred times human reaction speed. Superman is more on Surfer and Wonder Woman's level. I'd say the Potter Wizards are on a high meta level. That sounds about fair. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 13, 2011 9:03:47 GMT -5
Mhm. In the Half Blood Prince, Snape shows reaction speed that is Jediesque.
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Post by rbtd on Sept 13, 2011 13:54:00 GMT -5
The Wolfman.
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 13, 2011 16:46:44 GMT -5
VH lycan rapes the Wolfman.
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Post by rbtd on Sept 13, 2011 16:53:19 GMT -5
I've only seen Van Helsing once but if I recall correctly, Van Helsing wasn't a homosexual so he wouldn't "rape" another male.
Projecting our wishes are we?
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 13, 2011 16:53:59 GMT -5
Nah, just saying that VH lycan beats Wolfman.
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Post by rbtd on Sept 13, 2011 16:55:46 GMT -5
I'd have to watch the film again as it was once and when it came out. But I do recall the werewolf in that film having trouble taking out humans.
But until then, I will extract my "wolfman wins" comment.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 14, 2011 21:17:28 GMT -5
Mhm. In the Half Blood Prince, Snape shows reaction speed that is Jediesque. You mean when he killed Dumbledore? |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 14, 2011 21:24:48 GMT -5
Mhm. In the Half Blood Prince, Snape shows reaction speed that is Jediesque. You mean when he killed Dumbledore? No, here. FF to :43. Harry rises, casts sectumsempra. Snape, without looking, turns, blocks the spell and returns a non verbal spell of his own in less than half a second. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 14, 2011 21:36:23 GMT -5
You mean when he killed Dumbledore? No, here. FF to :43. Harry rises, casts sectumsempra. Snape, without looking, turns, blocks the spell and returns a non verbal spell of his own in less than half a second. I suppose. He is fast. Seems like what I'd see from combat trained people. I had never seen the sixth movie though, I need to check it out. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 14, 2011 21:38:23 GMT -5
No, here. FF to :43. Harry rises, casts sectumsempra. Snape, without looking, turns, blocks the spell and returns a non verbal spell of his own in less than half a second. I suppose. He is fast. Seems like what I'd see from combat trained people. I had never seen the sixth movie though, I need to check it out. The reflexes he showed are greater than that required to block a blaster bolt. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 14, 2011 21:46:01 GMT -5
I suppose. He is fast. Seems like what I'd see from combat trained people. I had never seen the sixth movie though, I need to check it out. The reflexes he showed are greater than that required to block a blaster bolt. Good reflexes, do you think they represent high level jedi reflexes? |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 14, 2011 21:47:06 GMT -5
The reflexes he showed are greater than that required to block a blaster bolt. Good reflexes, do you think they represent high level jedi reflexes? I think, in that scene, Snape displayed reflexes greater than that of any Jedi. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 14, 2011 21:54:35 GMT -5
Good reflexes, do you think they represent high level jedi reflexes? I think, in that scene, Snape displayed reflexes greater than that of any Jedi. I'll contest your stance on this issue and look for a scene from the Star Wars movie. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 14, 2011 21:57:13 GMT -5
I think, in that scene, Snape displayed reflexes greater than that of any Jedi. I'll contest your stance on this issue and look for a scene from the Star Wars movie. Bring it on, big daddy. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 14, 2011 22:03:50 GMT -5
I'm on it. Let me put it in the appropriate thread.
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 14, 2011 22:04:30 GMT -5
If it's not greater than, it's close to.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 14, 2011 22:05:41 GMT -5
Well the parrying scenes just come across as more constant and impressive.
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 14, 2011 22:06:35 GMT -5
Not really. Snape was turning and reacting to something he could not see.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 14, 2011 22:15:20 GMT -5
Not really. Snape was turning and reacting to something he could not see. That's something that has been replicated in movies. It is impressive though. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 14, 2011 23:30:31 GMT -5
I'll say this: If a wizard decides to go toe to toe with a Jedi, not use apparition, they'll be sliced to ribbons.
But unfortunately, wizards have apparition. If a Jedi gets too close, the wizard apparates away. If a wizard is caught in a force choke or force hold, they apparate away. If a wizard is force pushed, they apparate away.
As someone stated early in the SW/HP thread, the wizards are way too versatile for the Jedi to compete with.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 14, 2011 23:54:53 GMT -5
I'll say this: If a wizard decides to go toe to toe with a Jedi, not use apparition, they'll be sliced to ribbons. But unfortunately, wizards have apparition. If a Jedi gets too close, the wizard apparates away. If a wizard is caught in a force choke or force hold, they apparate away. If a wizard is force pushed, they apparate away. As someone stated early in the SW/HP thread, the wizards are way too versatile for the Jedi to compete with. Yea in a prep battle Wizards hold the advantage of course. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 15, 2011 0:06:05 GMT -5
I'll say this: If a wizard decides to go toe to toe with a Jedi, not use apparition, they'll be sliced to ribbons. But unfortunately, wizards have apparition. If a Jedi gets too close, the wizard apparates away. If a wizard is caught in a force choke or force hold, they apparate away. If a wizard is force pushed, they apparate away. As someone stated early in the SW/HP thread, the wizards are way too versatile for the Jedi to compete with. Yea in a prep battle Wizards hold the advantage of course. Even without prep, the Jedi lose. The only chance the Jedi have is a surprise attack. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 15, 2011 9:32:21 GMT -5
Yea in a prep battle Wizards hold the advantage of course. Even without prep, the Jedi lose. The only chance the Jedi have is a surprise attack. It's possible, it also depends on the starting distance. |
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Post by rbtd on Sept 15, 2011 17:00:32 GMT -5
I think, in that scene, Snape displayed reflexes greater than that of any Jedi. I'll contest your stance on this issue and look for a scene from the Star Wars movie. While impressive of Snape, Snape was basically warned ahead of time the spell was coming (Harry's voice casting the spell), so it's no where near Jedi battle-precog where they sense attacks before they happen, even from foes they can't see or would have surprised them. Comparing that Snape-scene to Jedi blocking multiple blaster bolts coming from multiple directions and even having the audacity to say it's greater is nothing but magician fanboyism running rampant as fact. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 16, 2011 5:01:04 GMT -5
I'll contest your stance on this issue and look for a scene from the Star Wars movie. While impressive of Snape, Snape was basically warned ahead of time the spell was coming (Harry's voice casting the spell), so it's no where near Jedi battle-precog where they sense attacks before they happen, even from foes they can't see or would have surprised them. Comparing that Snape-scene to Jedi blocking multiple blaster bolts coming from multiple directions and even having the audacity to say it's greater is nothing but magician fanboyism running rampant as fact. True Precog is actually knowing what happens before it happens ala Spider-sense. I'd definitely say it isn't precog. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 16, 2011 11:17:34 GMT -5
Even without prep, the Jedi lose. The only chance the Jedi have is a surprise attack. It's possible, it also depends on the starting distance. How so? Apparition is instant. Unless the Jedi has their saber drawn, ignited and at the wizards throat, the wizard will be gone before the Jedi can attack them. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 16, 2011 22:04:02 GMT -5
It's possible, it also depends on the starting distance. How so? Apparition is instant. Unless the Jedi has their saber drawn, ignited and at the wizards throat, the wizard will be gone before the Jedi can attack them. Because if they're close I'd bet on the reflexes of the Jedi. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 17, 2011 0:25:47 GMT -5
How so? Apparition is instant. Unless the Jedi has their saber drawn, ignited and at the wizards throat, the wizard will be gone before the Jedi can attack them. Because if they're close I'd bet on the reflexes of the Jedi. If they're close the wizard will apparate away before the Jedi can strike. Apparition is the deal breaker here. The Jedi cannot contend with it. |
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I suppose with prep he could pack more of a punch.
