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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 18, 2011 9:11:46 GMT -5
No weapons, just wits and fists, going at it, toe to toe. Who wins and why? Fight takes place in Marion's tavern from Raiders of the lost ark.
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 19, 2011 21:24:40 GMT -5
Indy.
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Post by rbtd on Sept 20, 2011 16:22:01 GMT -5
I like Indiana Jones better as a character, but McClane is a master of fighting and using the environment; a tavern is loaded with makeshift weapons McClane can use to ensure a win.
If it was in neutral setting like boxing ring, Indy would have a great chance.
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 20, 2011 17:29:33 GMT -5
Pffft, McClane couldn't even beat a girl h2h. He had to use a damn truck. Indy KO'd three men with one punch.
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Post by rbtd on Sept 20, 2011 18:04:42 GMT -5
You need to watch the film again, McClane knocked her unconscious and then went on to see how/what Matt was doing. His compassion in not killing a downed woman is what made the fight go in further after she recovered.
That "girl" was also a more skilled fighter than anyone Indiana has fought hand-to-hand. Can you try to not be so obviously biased in at least one of these Vs matches?
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 20, 2011 18:33:12 GMT -5
She KO'd him first, babe. She KO'd him, turned to go and deal with Farrell, then Mac got up after about 15 seconds.
See, Indy starts and finishes fights h2h. Mac? He gets his ass kicked h2h then comes back with a truck.
Mac versus the Colonel, DH2. Mac vs Lerch, DH3. Mac versus Ninja Chick, DH4. Mac versus Squirrel boy, DH4. All 4 times he got his ass kicked only to have luck save him.
Indy took on 4 Russian soldiers at once in the back of a jeep at age 60 and kicked their asses. One punch KO, dude, Indy does it all the time. I'm not being bias, I'm going with screen feats. I also said "no weapons" in the OP. No guns, no blades, no zippos, no SUV's. No barstools or anything.
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Post by steverules on Sept 20, 2011 18:44:04 GMT -5
Mac just to piss RJ off....KMC memories
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Post by rbtd on Sept 20, 2011 19:08:15 GMT -5
She KO'd him first, babe. She KO'd him, turned to go and deal with Farrell, then Mac got up after about 15 seconds. See, Indy starts and finishes fights h2h. Mac? He gets his ass kicked h2h then comes back with a truck. Mac versus the Colonel, DH2. Mac vs Lerch, DH3. Mac versus Ninja Chick, DH4. Mac versus Squirrel boy, DH4. All 4 times he got his ass kicked only to have luck save him. Indy took on 4 Russian soldiers at once in the back of a jeep at age 60 and kicked their asses. One punch KO, dude, Indy does it all the time. I'm not being bias, I'm going with screen feats. I also said "no weapons" in the OP. No guns, no blades, no zippos, no SUV's. No barstools or anything. McClane was never unconscious in that fight, so the rest of your post is based on a falsehood and can be ignored. I tell you again, watch the film; then comment. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 20, 2011 23:43:19 GMT -5
She KO'd him first, babe. She KO'd him, turned to go and deal with Farrell, then Mac got up after about 15 seconds. See, Indy starts and finishes fights h2h. Mac? He gets his ass kicked h2h then comes back with a truck. Mac versus the Colonel, DH2. Mac vs Lerch, DH3. Mac versus Ninja Chick, DH4. Mac versus Squirrel boy, DH4. All 4 times he got his ass kicked only to have luck save him. Indy took on 4 Russian soldiers at once in the back of a jeep at age 60 and kicked their asses. One punch KO, dude, Indy does it all the time. I'm not being bias, I'm going with screen feats. I also said "no weapons" in the OP. No guns, no blades, no zippos, no SUV's. No barstools or anything. McClane was never unconscious in that fight, so the rest of your post is based on a falsehood and can be ignored. I tell you again, watch the film; then comment. I have watched the film, many times. He was KO'd. Observe: www.zimbio.com/watch/tvj-FsR9k8O/Live+Free+Or+Die+Hard+Maggie+Q/Live+Free+or+Die+HardThey shuffled the vid around a bit, but at :27 you can see where she looks down on Mac's still form. She kicked the shit outta him, he fell, she walked over and saw him not moving. KO. Deal with it. |
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Post by rbtd on Sept 21, 2011 12:13:45 GMT -5
At 00:27 McClane was kicked out of a window and out of harms way; not knocked unconscious and at her mercy. This also happened AFTER McClane had previously thrown her into the shelving; actually did knock her unconscious and could have easily killed her. Good of you to ignore this fact.
You seem to see what you want to see and not what is actually happening in the film. So you're either delusional or you realize what you claim didn't actually happen in that clip and are deliberately trolling again.
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 21, 2011 22:35:18 GMT -5
At 00:27 McClane was kicked out of a window and out of harms way; not knocked unconscious and at her mercy. This also happened AFTER McClane had previously thrown her into the shelving; actually did knock her unconscious and could have easily killed her. Good of you to ignore this fact. You seem to see what you want to see and not what is actually happening in the film. So you're either delusional or you realize what you claim didn't actually happen in that clip and are deliberately trolling again. Here's how the fight went down: Mac had her at gunpoint. She disarmed him. She beat his ass down. He fell. She walked over, stared down in hatred at his still form, then turned and walked over to Matt. Mac got up after about 20 seconds. Mac charges, throws her into the shelving. Mac turns to Farrell and tells him to hurry. Ninja chick, after about 20 seconds, gets up, and bitch kicks Mac out the window. She won the H2H battle. Mac had to use a damn SUV to kill her. |
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Post by rbtd on Sept 22, 2011 12:28:43 GMT -5
McClane was never unconscious, but he was knocked down and quickly got up, when he says "enough of this Kung Fu shit" or something to that degree, then proceeds to throw her into the shelving, thereby knocking her out. She was also out for about 10 seconds, maybe less. But enough time for McClane to kill her, if he wished. She got up; they fought again and she managed to kick him out of a window. McClane won the hand-to-hand fight, she was only able to beat on him.
Considering you've seen the movie "many times" and I watched it once in 2007 when it came out, I ask with all sincerity and in the nicest way possible, are you retarded or just a troll?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 22, 2011 13:35:51 GMT -5
Alright guys, let's take it easy. I wouldn't really mind mild bashes from anybody, but since this escalates over and over maybe you two should calm down on the bashing, or the implied bashing, etc.
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Post by rbtd on Sept 22, 2011 16:51:12 GMT -5
I'm calm, guy.
I'm not the one posting clips as proof and the clips don't follow what I'm claiming; yet insisting they do.
I feel my question was reasonable, considering his actions. I even worded it as nicely as possible.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 22, 2011 19:03:55 GMT -5
Right, but asking someone if they're retarded or stupid smacks of a covert insult. Not to mention you've been reporting. If it bothers you try to avoid it.
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Post by rbtd on Sept 22, 2011 19:07:19 GMT -5
Right, but asking someone if they're retarded or stupid smacks of a covert insult. Not to mention you've been reporting. If it bothers you try to avoid it. Serious question. If I made a claim and then posted a clip to prove my claim, but the clip I posted didn't prove my claim correct yet I insisted it did. Would you not think I was either retarded or trolling? I won't report again. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 23, 2011 8:35:04 GMT -5
I'm calm, guy. I'm not the one posting clips as proof and the clips don't follow what I'm claiming; yet insisting they do. I feel my question was reasonable, considering his actions. I even worded it as nicely as possible. They shuffled the vid aorund. Read: Here's how the fight went down:
Mac had her at gunpoint.
She disarmed him.
She beat his ass down.
He fell.
She walked over, stared down in hatred at his still form, then turned and walked over to Matt.
Mac got up after about 20 seconds.
Mac charges, throws her into the shelving.
Mac turns to Farrell and tells him to hurry.
Ninja chick, after about 20 seconds, gets up, and bitch kicks Mac out the window.
She won the H2H battle. Mac had to use a damn SUV to kill her. Re watch DH4 and you'll see. |
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