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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 27, 2011 9:17:09 GMT -5
How is the death curse a joke to him?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 27, 2011 9:18:50 GMT -5
How is the death curse a joke to him? Because it doesn't pack the punch of what he faces on a regular basis. It's powerful in Potterverse, just not in the league of what he faces, not even close. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 27, 2011 9:40:09 GMT -5
How is the death curse a joke to him? Because it doesn't pack the punch of what he faces on a regular basis. It's powerful in Potterverse, just not in the league of what he faces, not even close. It doesn't need "punch." It removes the soul from the body. Also, HP wizards may be able to apparate inside shields. No way to be sure though. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 27, 2011 11:05:38 GMT -5
Because it doesn't pack the punch of what he faces on a regular basis. It's powerful in Potterverse, just not in the league of what he faces, not even close. It doesn't need "punch." It removes the soul from the body. Also, HP wizards may be able to apparate inside shields. No way to be sure though. Doesn't matter. Dr. Strange has resisted, and defeated death itself. He's also fought beings way more powerful than anything the death spell would conceivably work on. To say it would beat anybody anytime is applying a no limits fallacy to the spell. They wouldn't have the time. Strange can teleport, freeze time, etc. With all but a few words. They'd lose. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 27, 2011 11:22:41 GMT -5
It doesn't need "punch." It removes the soul from the body. Also, HP wizards may be able to apparate inside shields. No way to be sure though. Doesn't matter. Dr. Strange has resisted, and defeated death itself. He's also fought beings way more powerful than anything the death spell would conceivably work on. To say it would beat anybody anytime is applying a no limits fallacy to the spell. They wouldn't have the time. Strange can teleport, freeze time, etc. With all but a few words. They'd lose. Dude, you're not getting it. Avada Kedavra is not a spell that relies on it's strength, hell, it doesn't even pierce skin and leaves no mark on it's victim. It removes life from whatever organic target it hits.Avada Kedavra would kill Superman Hancock, Hulk, and Ghost Rider. Also, apparition is instant. Saying one or two words is not. |
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Post by rbtd on Sept 27, 2011 15:03:53 GMT -5
Avada Kedavra would kill Superman Hancock, Hulk, and Ghost Rider. Superman is a Kryptonian, does he have a soul? Hancock is something powerful, hinted at possibly being an angel. Does Hancock have a soul? Ghost Rider is a demonic being. We talked about you fantasizing and making the wizards more powerful than they are in the SW v HP thread. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 27, 2011 15:55:18 GMT -5
Avada Kedavra would kill Superman Hancock, Hulk, and Ghost Rider. Superman is a Kryptonian, does he have a soul? Hancock is something powerful, hinted at possibly being an angel. Does Hancock have a soul? Ghost Rider is a demonic being. We talked about you fantasizing and making the wizards more powerful than they are in the SW v HP thread. Superman and Hancock are alive. Avada Kedavra removes life from organic beings. It is said that it removes life, removes the soul. Ghost Rider? Several ways for a HP wizard to dispatch him. Transfiguration comes to mind. More powerful how? By saying that they can do what I say they can and providing video evidence? K. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 27, 2011 20:01:02 GMT -5
Doesn't matter. Dr. Strange has resisted, and defeated death itself. He's also fought beings way more powerful than anything the death spell would conceivably work on. To say it would beat anybody anytime is applying a no limits fallacy to the spell. They wouldn't have the time. Strange can teleport, freeze time, etc. With all but a few words. They'd lose. Dude, you're not getting it. Avada Kedavra is not a spell that relies on it's strength, hell, it doesn't even pierce skin and leaves no mark on it's victim. It removes life from whatever organic target it hits.Avada Kedavra would kill Superman Hancock, Hulk, and Ghost Rider. Also, apparition is instant. Saying one or two words is not. Superman has resisted such things, Ghost Rider wouldn't die by it. Strange has artifacts and shields. It wouldn't work on him as he has defeated death itself. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 27, 2011 23:49:01 GMT -5
Dude, you're not getting it. Avada Kedavra is not a spell that relies on it's strength, hell, it doesn't even pierce skin and leaves no mark on it's victim. It removes life from whatever organic target it hits.Avada Kedavra would kill Superman Hancock, Hulk, and Ghost Rider. Also, apparition is instant. Saying one or two words is not. Superman has resisted such things, Ghost Rider wouldn't die by it. Strange has artifacts and shields. It wouldn't work on him as he has defeated death itself. Superman has resisted avada kedavra? How about transfiguration, or being vanished? Apparate inside said shields, death spell, indo story. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 28, 2011 2:59:58 GMT -5
Superman has resisted far more potent death abilities. From death avatars. Superman has resisted such things, Ghost Rider wouldn't die by it. Strange has artifacts and shields. It wouldn't work on him as he has defeated death itself. Superman has resisted avada kedavra? How about transfiguration, or being vanished? Apparate inside said shields, death spell, indo story. So you're actually arguing and suggesting that Harry Potter Wizards can fight the supreme sorcerer of Earth, who has defeated death itself? Fought beings who destroy Galaxies and has destroyed planets and galaxies? Even after I posted explicit proof? If so, you're way too biased, sorry bud. And no Strange's shields aren't some bubble you can apparate inside of. It's an invisible lining. Also he has artifacts which protect him from such tactics on top of his shield, and he can make even *stronger* sheilds. Not to mention he has fought greater foes and can simply stop time and send them through another dimension with the flick of a wrist. Also Harry Potter spells have to travel. Freezing time can't be dodged or "deflected" especially by wizards on the Harry Potter scale. To argue otherwise is almost like trolling. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 28, 2011 3:49:28 GMT -5
Superman has resisted far more potent death abilities. From death avatars. Superman has resisted avada kedavra? How about transfiguration, or being vanished? Apparate inside said shields, death spell, indo story. So you're actually arguing and suggesting that Harry Potter Wizards can fight the supreme sorcerer of Earth, who has defeated death itself? Fought beings who destroy Galaxies and has destroyed planets and galaxies? Even after I posted explicit proof? If so, you're way too biased, sorry bud. And no Strange's shields aren't some bubble you can apparate inside of. It's an invisible lining. Also he has artifacts which protect him from such tactics on top of his shield, and he can make even *stronger* sheilds. Not to mention he has fought greater foes and can simply stop time and send them through another dimension with the flick of a wrist. Also Harry Potter spells have to travel. Freezing time can't be dodged or "deflected" especially by wizards on the Harry Potter scale. To argue otherwise is almost like trolling. All I am saying is that is if hit by a death spell, Strange will die. All that you said, one thing has nothing to do with another. Just because person A beats person B, and person B beats person C, that doesn't mean that person A beats C. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 28, 2011 4:05:30 GMT -5
Superman has resisted far more potent death abilities. From death avatars. So you're actually arguing and suggesting that Harry Potter Wizards can fight the supreme sorcerer of Earth, who has defeated death itself? Fought beings who destroy Galaxies and has destroyed planets and galaxies? Even after I posted explicit proof? If so, you're way too biased, sorry bud. And no Strange's shields aren't some bubble you can apparate inside of. It's an invisible lining. Also he has artifacts which protect him from such tactics on top of his shield, and he can make even *stronger* sheilds. Not to mention he has fought greater foes and can simply stop time and send them through another dimension with the flick of a wrist. Also Harry Potter spells have to travel. Freezing time can't be dodged or "deflected" especially by wizards on the Harry Potter scale. To argue otherwise is almost like trolling. All I am saying is that is if hit by a death spell, Strange will die. All that you said, one thing has nothing to do with another. Just because person A beats person B, and person B beats person C, that doesn't mean that person A beats C. Not when Strange has defeated death itself, meaning he cannot be willed to death. He also has artifacts which protect him through such abilities. He's also vastly more powerful and has auto shields. ABC logic doesn't work when the characters are vastly different. It does work when a character faces opponents *well* out of the league of the opponents in the match. Saying, for instance that Spider-Man could beat Wolverine therefore he would beat Sandman in a straight up fight is irrelevant because the characters are vastly different. Saying Strange would beat Harry Potter Wizards because he has fought characters who can do whatever the Harry Potter Wizards can on a vastly higher level, a vastly world shakingly higher level. Strange has even fought off the Living Tribunal, an omnipotent being that's second to TOAA (which is God (with a capital G) in he Marvel Universe) a character that can erase multiverses. To think that Harry Potter Wizards can get through those shields is silly. Strange isn't just a little more powerful, or a lot more powerful, he's logarithmically, exponentially, multiple magnitudes more powerful. It's not even close. This is a spite match and a curbstomp battle. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 28, 2011 4:15:17 GMT -5
All I am saying is that is if hit by a death spell, Strange will die. All that you said, one thing has nothing to do with another. Just because person A beats person B, and person B beats person C, that doesn't mean that person A beats C. Not when Strange has defeated death itself, meaning he cannot be willed to death. He also has artifacts which protect him through such abilities. He's also vastly more powerful and has auto shields. ABC logic doesn't work when the characters are vastly different. It does work when a character faces opponents *well* out of the league of the opponents in the match. Saying, for instance that Spider-Man could beat Wolverine therefore he would beat Sandman in a straight up fight is irrelevant because the characters are vastly different. Saying Strange would beat Harry Potter Wizards because he has fought characters who can do whatever the Harry Potter Wizards can on a vastly higher level, a vastly world shakingly higher level. Strange has even fought off the Living Tribunal, an omnipotent being that's second to TOAA (which is God (with a capital G) in he Marvel Universe) a character that can erase multiverses. To think that Harry Potter Wizards can get through those shields is silly. Strange isn't just a little more powerful, or a lot more powerful, he's logarithmically, exponentially, multiple magnitudes more powerful. It's not even close. This is a spite match and a curbstomp battle. Well, I dunno about Strange. Like I said, I'm just inquiring. IMO, avada kedavra, IF it hits Strange, he dies. It will remove life from his body. He might come back, but the spell will initially kill him. Same with Superman. Truth be told, a comic geek buddy of mine who wants to have Dr. Stranges love child is undecided on this. I smell fanboy on you. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 28, 2011 6:53:49 GMT -5
Not when Strange has defeated death itself, meaning he cannot be willed to death. He also has artifacts which protect him through such abilities. He's also vastly more powerful and has auto shields. ABC logic doesn't work when the characters are vastly different. It does work when a character faces opponents *well* out of the league of the opponents in the match. Saying, for instance that Spider-Man could beat Wolverine therefore he would beat Sandman in a straight up fight is irrelevant because the characters are vastly different. Saying Strange would beat Harry Potter Wizards because he has fought characters who can do whatever the Harry Potter Wizards can on a vastly higher level, a vastly world shakingly higher level. Strange has even fought off the Living Tribunal, an omnipotent being that's second to TOAA (which is God (with a capital G) in he Marvel Universe) a character that can erase multiverses. To think that Harry Potter Wizards can get through those shields is silly. Strange isn't just a little more powerful, or a lot more powerful, he's logarithmically, exponentially, multiple magnitudes more powerful. It's not even close. This is a spite match and a curbstomp battle. Well, I dunno about Strange. Like I said, I'm just inquiring. IMO, avada kedavra, IF it hits Strange, he dies. It will remove life from his body. He might come back, but the spell will initially kill him. Same with Superman. Truth be told, a comic geek buddy of mine who wants to have Dr. Stranges love child is undecided on this. I smell fanboy on you. Not with his shields and protection. Dr. Strange isn't even my top favorite character, I think he's cool, I like many other characters much more than him. This match is so in his favor it's not funny. I don't know what the conditions were in the match with your buddy. Other members in this thread know this thread is a curbstomp. I'm open to many characters. I've read all the Harry Potter books and seen his movies. I also know much about both characters. Your buddy being a fan also doesn't mean who knows a lot about the character. He may or may not, or he may just like the character. Many fanboys aren't really that knowledgeable about their own characters. They become less biased when they learn. You aren't familiar with Strange, but based off of what I showed you alone should prove my point. Stopping time, defeating gods, destroying planets, traveling at light speed, etc. You're obviously quite favored towards Harry Potter. I never understood this concept. Liking a character more doesn't make them win more. I always thought that was silly and got in the way of debates. Everybody has a bias and a favorite, but it doesn't mean you have to defend them in every match all of the time to the death. I like Spider-Man more than Superman, but I wouldn't argue him beating him in a straight up match. I have shown you evidence and you are still denying it. You're also trying to apply a no limits fallacy to the character. Just because x works on one character doesn't mean it works on all characters, like you said it would with Ghost Rider. Who would resist the effect. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 28, 2011 9:17:44 GMT -5
You have no evidence that a wizard cannot apparate inside his shields. Point A is the wizards starting point, point B is the shield, point C is Strange. The wizards are bypassing point B and going directly to point C. This works the same way for Strange, surely he can teleport inside a protego.
There's no Potter bias. You wanna know the truth? People dismiss wizard power because Potter is "faggy" and a "child's film." My point is that wizards versatility and speed, along with one hit kill shots, are formidable as hell. I'm not saying they win here, just that avada kedavra, when it hits an organic, living being, kills instantly. The only two exceptions are Harry.
I most certainly am not implying a no limits fallacy. I am saying that if something is alive, avada kedavra removes life/soul from them. The only way someone survives it is if they have a piece of the casters soul inside them, or if a loved one does what Harry's mom did for him. That's it, nothing else. Anyone else who is alive and/or has a soul, they die.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 28, 2011 10:45:52 GMT -5
You have no evidence that a wizard cannot apparate inside his shields. Point A is the wizards starting point, point B is the shield, point C is Strange. The wizards are bypassing point B and going directly to point C. This works the same way for Strange, surely he can teleport inside a protego. There's no Potter bias. You wanna know the truth? People dismiss wizard power because Potter is "faggy" and a "child's film." My point is that wizards versatility and speed, along with one hit kill shots, are formidable as hell. I'm not saying they win here, just that avada kedavra, when it hits an organic, living being, kills instantly. The only two exceptions are Harry. I most certainly am not implying a no limits fallacy. I am saying that if something is alive, avada kedavra removes life/soul from them. The only way someone survives it is if they have a piece of the casters soul inside them, or if a loved one does what Harry's mom did for him. That's it, nothing else. Anyone else who is alive and/or has a soul, they die. His shields aren't a bubble they're a film around him (his auto shields) he also has numerous artifacts that protect him from it. Sure you are. It's quite obvious you like the series, and that's fine. And wizards are some of the most powerful characters in fiction. Dr. Strange is so powerful that he is a walking plot device. The writers simply use his power to do whatever they want, the only way he loses is when the writers need him to lose, for the most part. I'm not dismissing anything, I said the HP wizards are powerful in their own universe, but they don't stack up to characters who face gods and can blink away multiverses. The most powerful wizards may be at around Iron Man level.... maybe. Definitely not Dr. Strange level, who can do all sorts of things they haven't dreamed of. Strange has astral projection and he has already defeated and resisted death. Even if he could be affected, all he would need to do is freeze time. He's more experienced, skilled, and also a great martial artist. He freezes time, they die. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 28, 2011 13:19:13 GMT -5
You have no evidence that a wizard cannot apparate inside his shields. Point A is the wizards starting point, point B is the shield, point C is Strange. The wizards are bypassing point B and going directly to point C. This works the same way for Strange, surely he can teleport inside a protego. There's no Potter bias. You wanna know the truth? People dismiss wizard power because Potter is "faggy" and a "child's film." My point is that wizards versatility and speed, along with one hit kill shots, are formidable as hell. I'm not saying they win here, just that avada kedavra, when it hits an organic, living being, kills instantly. The only two exceptions are Harry. I most certainly am not implying a no limits fallacy. I am saying that if something is alive, avada kedavra removes life/soul from them. The only way someone survives it is if they have a piece of the casters soul inside them, or if a loved one does what Harry's mom did for him. That's it, nothing else. Anyone else who is alive and/or has a soul, they die. His shields aren't a bubble they're a film around him (his auto shields) he also has numerous artifacts that protect him from it. These shields, they repel teleporters? I love SW more than anything, and look at how I argue against them in the force thread. Perfect example of having no bias in vs threads. So he's invincible? Can he freeze time in the time it takes a wizard to apparate behind him and death spell him? Like one second? |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 28, 2011 15:11:04 GMT -5
His shields aren't a bubble they're a film around him (his auto shields) he also has numerous artifacts that protect him from it. These shields, they repel teleporters? I love SW more than anything, and look at how I argue against them in the force thread. Perfect example of having no bias in vs threads. So he's invincible? Can he freeze time in the time it takes a wizard to apparate behind him and death spell him? Like one second? He's going to teleport inside of Strange? You like both parties. You were arguing against them in defense of Harry Potter. No, but he's not losing to them. Since he is a walking plot device, he'll have to be stopped by someone out of their league. Or caught off guard. He's not being stopped by a lower level spell caster, who is much less capable. He is a spell caster himself. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 28, 2011 16:43:19 GMT -5
These shields, they repel teleporters? I love SW more than anything, and look at how I argue against them in the force thread. Perfect example of having no bias in vs threads. So he's invincible? Can he freeze time in the time it takes a wizard to apparate behind him and death spell him? Like one second? He's going to teleport inside of Strange? You like both parties. You were arguing against them in defense of Harry Potter. No, but he's not losing to them. Since he is a walking plot device, he'll have to be stopped by someone out of their league. Or caught off guard. He's not being stopped by a lower level spell caster, who is much less capable. He is a spell caster himself. Ah, you mean a shield ON him, like hugging his skin. Gotcha. I love SW much more, it's not even close, duder. "Someone out of their league"......Let's think about that. Wesley Gibson is way outta my league. If I were to fight him 1000 times in a gun battle, would I win even one? |
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Post by rbtd on Sept 28, 2011 17:37:56 GMT -5
......Let's think about that. Wesley Gibson is way outta my league. If I were to fight him 1000 times in a gun battle, would I win even one? No. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 28, 2011 17:40:05 GMT -5
......Let's think about that. Wesley Gibson is way outta my league. If I were to fight him 1000 times in a gun battle, would I win even one? No. Nah, I'd win at least one. Lady luck and all. |
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Post by rbtd on Sept 28, 2011 17:44:52 GMT -5
Nah, I'd win at least one. Lady luck and all. I used to think I could take on ninjas, robots, pirates and such, being the hero. Then I turned 11 and reality hit. Maybe it's time you joined us in reality, Mr. Rogue Jedi. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 28, 2011 19:50:15 GMT -5
He's going to teleport inside of Strange? You like both parties. You were arguing against them in defense of Harry Potter. No, but he's not losing to them. Since he is a walking plot device, he'll have to be stopped by someone out of their league. Or caught off guard. He's not being stopped by a lower level spell caster, who is much less capable. He is a spell caster himself. Ah, you mean a shield ON him, like hugging his skin. Gotcha. I love SW much more, it's not even close, duder. "Someone out of their league"......Let's think about that. Wesley Gibson is way outta my league. If I were to fight him 1000 times in a gun battle, would I win even one? No. And by the way, this isn't like a lightweight boxer vs a heavyweight boxer, this is like a bull elephant vs an infant. Just nowhere near the power needed. Even with 1000 infants. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 28, 2011 22:03:34 GMT -5
I think you both need to calm down.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 29, 2011 4:29:04 GMT -5
I think you both need to calm down. Lol, who's upset? I'm just stating my side. |
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Post by rbtd on Sept 29, 2011 18:32:04 GMT -5
Lol, who's upset? I'm just stating my side. He mad we slapped him with the callous palm of reality and burst his bubble. He mad, bro. Don't feel bad about it, despite it seeming to be cruel, Peter Pans have to grow up something. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 29, 2011 21:54:38 GMT -5
Lol, who's upset? I'm just stating my side. He mad we slapped him with the callous palm of reality and burst his bubble. He mad, bro. Don't feel bad about it, despite it seeming to be cruel, Peter Pans have to grow up something. I suppose. Nothing to get mad over though. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 30, 2011 9:31:08 GMT -5
Lol, who's upset? I'm just stating my side. He mad we slapped him with the callous palm of reality and burst his bubble. He mad, bro. Don't feel bad about it, despite it seeming to be cruel, Peter Pans have to grow up something. "We?" I seem to remember you arguing that a Potter wizard can easily apparate behind Strange and death spell him. |
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Post by Rogue Jedi on Sept 30, 2011 23:49:04 GMT -5
I think you both need to calm down. Lol, who's upset? I'm just stating my side. I wasn't literally telling you to calm down. It was a joke. Ever see Lebowski? |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Oct 2, 2011 9:58:10 GMT -5
Lol, who's upset? I'm just stating my side. I wasn't literally telling you to calm down. It was a joke. Ever see Lebowski? You want to see my Big Lebowski? |
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