Tekken versus Mortal Kombat

[Rogue Jedi]

And? What difference does it make if Tekken has a handful of animals?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Oct 18, 2011 12:59:48 GMT -5 Rogue Jedi said:

And? What difference does it make if Tekken has a handful of animals?

I don't know, why did this even come up?

[Rogue Jedi]

Oct 18, 2011 13:07:34 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Oct 18, 2011 12:59:48 GMT -5 Rogue Jedi said:

And? What difference does it make if Tekken has a handful of animals?

I don't know, why did this even come up?

Good question.

[samz]

Im a huge MK geek. Played the games, watched the movies, still have the old "conquest" tapes somehwere. And MK's story is more interesting and better thought through. But as far as fighting feats go, Tekken fighters >>> MK fighters. Only chance MK has is the magic users and even that can be matched by some of tekken top tiers with mystical powers without much trouble. The thing about MK magic, most of it is "gameplay". Outside of simple fireballs/teleportation we can only speculate what else they might do and what efect it might have and that's not good enough. At the same time we see Bryn's and Paul's punch create s shockwave that shatters concrete in a 20 feet radius. Tekken fighters win this.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Oct 18, 2011 14:41:40 GMT -5 samz said:

Im a huge MK geek. Played the games, watched the movies, still have the old "conquest" tapes somehwere. And MK's story is more interesting and better thought through. But as far as fighting feats go, Tekken fighters >>> MK fighters. Only chance MK has is the magic users and even that can be matched by some of tekken top tiers with mystical powers without much trouble. The thing about MK magic, most of it is "gameplay". Outside of simple fireballs/teleportation we can only speculate what else they might do and what efect it might have and that's not good enough. At the same time we see Bryn's and Paul's punch create s shockwave that shatters concrete in a 20 feet radius. Tekken fighters win this.

The problem with MK is that most of it "is" gameplay. Fun, but more blood doesn't mean more powerful characters. Some people just don't get that though.

[samz]

Oct 18, 2011 15:01:06 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Oct 18, 2011 14:41:40 GMT -5 samz said:

Im a huge MK geek. Played the games, watched the movies, still have the old "conquest" tapes somehwere. And MK's story is more interesting and better thought through. But as far as fighting feats go, Tekken fighters >>> MK fighters. Only chance MK has is the magic users and even that can be matched by some of tekken top tiers with mystical powers without much trouble. The thing about MK magic, most of it is "gameplay". Outside of simple fireballs/teleportation we can only speculate what else they might do and what efect it might have and that's not good enough. At the same time we see Bryn's and Paul's punch create s shockwave that shatters concrete in a 20 feet radius. Tekken fighters win this.

The problem with MK is that most of it "is" gameplay. Fun, but more blood doesn't mean more powerful characters. Some people just don't get that though.

Yeah. They are no mere humans ofcourse, ripping each opther limbs and such but they're not on as tough as some people believe.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Oct 18, 2011 15:04:59 GMT -5 samz said:

Oct 18, 2011 15:01:06 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

The problem with MK is that most of it "is" gameplay. Fun, but more blood doesn't mean more powerful characters. Some people just don't get that though.

Yeah. They are no mere humans ofcourse, ripping each opther limbs and such but they're not on as tough as some people believe.

This whole thing stemmed from the "they're Gods" ordeal. They're powerful enough to give mainstream fighting games a good fight, but they aren't Superman level. Nothing wrong with that.

[Rogue Jedi]

Oct 18, 2011 14:41:40 GMT -5 samz said:

Im a huge MK geek. Played the games, watched the movies, still have the old "conquest" tapes somehwere. And MK's story is more interesting and better thought through. But as far as fighting feats go, Tekken fighters >>> MK fighters. Only chance MK has is the magic users and even that can be matched by some of tekken top tiers with mystical powers without much trouble. The thing about MK magic, most of it is "gameplay". Outside of simple fireballs/teleportation we can only speculate what else they might do and what efect it might have and that's not good enough. At the same time we see Bryn's and Paul's punch create s shockwave that shatters concrete in a 20 feet radius. Tekken fighters win this.

well said.

[Blaze72]

Oct 18, 2011 14:41:40 GMT -5 samz said:

. The thing about MK magic, most of it is "gameplay". Outside of simple fireballs/teleportation we can only speculate what else they might do and what efect it might have and that's not good enough. At the same time we see Bryn's and Paul's punch create s shockwave that shatters concrete in a 20 feet radius. Tekken fighters win this.

Some of those fireballs/teleportation etc are shown in the characters endings but the thing with MK its only images where as with Tekken they've gone out of their way with movies.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Oct 19, 2011 3:07:07 GMT -5 Blaze72 said:

Oct 18, 2011 14:41:40 GMT -5 samz said:

. The thing about MK magic, most of it is "gameplay". Outside of simple fireballs/teleportation we can only speculate what else they might do and what efect it might have and that's not good enough. At the same time we see Bryn's and Paul's punch create s shockwave that shatters concrete in a 20 feet radius. Tekken fighters win this.

Some of those fireballs/teleportation etc are shown in the characters endings but the thing with MK its only images where as with Tekken they've gone out of their way with movies.

They just have to be canon to count.

[cosmiccomet]

There are plenty of bullet timers in Tekken.

I don't think that's the case in MK.

I like the MKverse much better though, and considering overall universe firepower, MK wins easily. But just looking at the normal fighters, Tekken wins.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Oct 19, 2011 17:16:30 GMT -5 cosmiccomet said:

There are plenty of bullet timers in Tekken.

I don't think that's the case in MK.

I like the MKverse much better though, and considering overall universe firepower, MK wins easily. But just looking at the normal fighters, Tekken wins.

Up to what level of characters are you including?

[samz]

Just watched a small footage from Blood Vengeance. Kazuya vs Jin vs Heihachi, with 'hachi pretty much owning everybody. That's sad. Still, the energy output from all 3 was Fing insane. And people still believe they arent on the level with SF characters..

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Oct 29, 2011 14:50:19 GMT -5 samz said:

Just watched a small footage from Blood Vengeance. Kazuya vs Jin vs Heihachi, with 'hachi pretty much owning everybody. That's sad. Still, the energy output from all 3 was Fing insane. And people still believe they arent on the level with SF characters..

SF has a much larger power gap. I'm not sure I'd put them all on the DBZ lite levels of the top tier SF characters, but all in all they could give the normal characters a well good fight.

[samz]

Oct 29, 2011 16:16:15 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Oct 29, 2011 14:50:19 GMT -5 samz said:

Just watched a small footage from Blood Vengeance. Kazuya vs Jin vs Heihachi, with 'hachi pretty much owning everybody. That's sad. Still, the energy output from all 3 was Fing insane. And people still believe they arent on the level with SF characters..

SF has a much larger power gap. I'm not sure I'd put them all on the DBZ lite levels of the top tier SF characters, but all in all they could give the normal characters a well good fight.

Id only place SF top tiers on the DBZ lite level, but after watching that must say tekken top tiers arent far behind (if at all) but minus projectile based attacks.


Cant wait to watch the whole thing.

[Rogue Jedi]

Tekken rapes.

[Blaze72]

Keep telling yourself that.

[Rogue Jedi]

I will!!!

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Oct 29, 2011 22:49:14 GMT -5 samz said:

Oct 29, 2011 16:16:15 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

SF has a much larger power gap. I'm not sure I'd put them all on the DBZ lite levels of the top tier SF characters, but all in all they could give the normal characters a well good fight.

Id only place SF top tiers on the DBZ lite level, but after watching that must say tekken top tiers arent far behind (if at all) but minus projectile based attacks.


Cant wait to watch the whole thing.

That's one badass fight scene.

Like I said, Street Fighter has such a huge power gap between characters. Some characters are just way more powerful than others. I wouldn't say that's exactly Island busting, mountain busting, or city busting, but still very awesome and very powerful. It would be a good fight, but with the Oni's, Akuma's, Evil Ryu's, Seth's, Bison's, and Gill's running around, along with Oro, it's just a tad too much.

May be better to make them direct fights. Like character x vs character y. It's all good though.

[Coolest thing Alive]

Oct 16, 2011 18:02:50 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Oct 16, 2011 14:08:56 GMT -5 Coolest thing Alive said:

"Tekken versus Mortal Kombat ?"

Draw.

Why do you feel that?

None of the franchises have any outrageous showings that would put them above one another. Tekken, I feel, has the edge in the feat department, but I think MK clearly has the edge in the utilities and abilities section. I'm too lazy to stack it all up against one another so I'm settlin for a draw. Tekken has better showings but MK characters have better powers.

To put it simply, Tekken is superhuman and MK is supernatural.

[Rogue Jedi]

Angels and Devils, wooden training dummies that come to life, Ogres, these things are supernatural.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Nov 1, 2011 22:43:57 GMT -5 Coolest thing Alive said:

Oct 16, 2011 18:02:50 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Why do you feel that?

None of the franchises have any outrageous showings that would put them above one another. Tekken, I feel, has the edge in the feat department, but I think MK clearly has the edge in the utilities and abilities section. I'm too lazy to stack it all up against one another so I'm settlin for a draw. Tekken has better showings but MK characters have better powers.

To put it simply, Tekken is superhuman and MK is supernatural.

Not a bad point. MK does have nifty abilities that shouldn't be overlooked.

[samz]

Nov 1, 2011 22:43:57 GMT -5 Coolest thing Alive said:

Oct 16, 2011 18:02:50 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Why do you feel that?

None of the franchises have any outrageous showings that would put them above one another. Tekken, I feel, has the edge in the feat department, but I think MK clearly has the edge in the utilities and abilities section. I'm too lazy to stack it all up against one another so I'm settlin for a draw. Tekken has better showings but MK characters have better powers.

To put it simply, Tekken is superhuman and MK is supernatural.

Imagine him doing a Johnny Cage nut punch.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Nov 8, 2011 3:56:52 GMT -5 samz said:

Nov 1, 2011 22:43:57 GMT -5 Coolest thing Alive said:

None of the franchises have any outrageous showings that would put them above one another. Tekken, I feel, has the edge in the feat department, but I think MK clearly has the edge in the utilities and abilities section. I'm too lazy to stack it all up against one another so I'm settlin for a draw. Tekken has better showings but MK characters have better powers.

To put it simply, Tekken is superhuman and MK is supernatural.

Imagine him doing a Johnny Cage nut punch.

Johnny Cage is so much more awesome now than ever.

[Coolest thing Alive]

Your nuts would be knocked into the next dimension lol. But in all fairness to the MK cast, that ending depicts Fang Wei if he learned what was in the scrolls. We learn that there was nothing in the scrolls, so Feng never got his hands on that type of power.

Nov 1, 2011 23:33:32 GMT -5 Rogue Jedi said:

Angels and Devils, wooden training dummies that come to life, Ogres, these things are supernatural.

Yup, and they seem, pretty odd placed in Tekken. In MK, you have guys that can take souls, the walking dead, robots, dimension hoppers, and etc. And it aint like a it's just a few of'em. Most characters are beyond normal, in some way, in the MKverse. Not that that means they'll win or lose. However, it's still worth pointing out.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Nov 9, 2011 17:01:47 GMT -5 Coolest thing Alive said:

Your nuts would be knocked into the next dimension lol. But in all fairness to the MK cast, that ending depicts Fang Wei if he learned what was in the scrolls. We learn that there was nothing in the scrolls, so Feng never got his hands on that type of power.

Nov 1, 2011 23:33:32 GMT -5 Rogue Jedi said:

Angels and Devils, wooden training dummies that come to life, Ogres, these things are supernatural.

Yup, and they seem, pretty odd placed in Tekken. In MK, you have guys that can take souls, the walking dead, robots, dimension hoppers, and etc. And it aint like a it's just a few of'em. Most characters are beyond normal, in some way, in the MKverse. Not that that means they'll win or lose. However, it's still worth pointing out.

I always saw them more as joke characters honestly.

[samz]

Nov 9, 2011 17:01:47 GMT -5 Coolest thing Alive said:

Your nuts would be knocked into the next dimension lol. But in all fairness to the MK cast, that ending depicts Fang Wei if he learned what was in the scrolls. We learn that there was nothing in the scrolls, so Feng never got his hands on that type of power.

Nov 1, 2011 23:33:32 GMT -5 Rogue Jedi said:

Angels and Devils, wooden training dummies that come to life, Ogres, these things are supernatural.

Yup, and they seem, pretty odd placed in Tekken. In MK, you have guys that can take souls, the walking dead, robots, dimension hoppers, and etc. And it aint like a it's just a few of'em. Most characters are beyond normal, in some way, in the MKverse. Not that that means they'll win or lose. However, it's still worth pointing out.

Actually this one is canon. The tekken 5 non-canon ending had him use the power of the scrolls, but we learn in tekken 6 that he never actually got his hands on them. So what he did in 6 he did under his own power.

TBH I dont think they cared whether it were the scrolls or not, they just went with the established power level.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Nov 9, 2011 23:48:42 GMT -5 samz said:

Nov 9, 2011 17:01:47 GMT -5 Coolest thing Alive said:

Your nuts would be knocked into the next dimension lol. But in all fairness to the MK cast, that ending depicts Fang Wei if he learned what was in the scrolls. We learn that there was nothing in the scrolls, so Feng never got his hands on that type of power.



Yup, and they seem, pretty odd placed in Tekken. In MK, you have guys that can take souls, the walking dead, robots, dimension hoppers, and etc. And it aint like a it's just a few of'em. Most characters are beyond normal, in some way, in the MKverse. Not that that means they'll win or lose. However, it's still worth pointing out.

Actually this one is canon. The tekken 5 non-canon ending had him use the power of the scrolls, but we learn in tekken 6 that he never actually got his hands on them. So what he did in 6 he did under his own power.

TBH I dont think they cared whether it were the scrolls or not, they just went with the established power level.

It is a possibility.

[Coolest thing Alive]

Nov 9, 2011 23:48:42 GMT -5 samz said:

Nov 9, 2011 17:01:47 GMT -5 Coolest thing Alive said:

Your nuts would be knocked into the next dimension lol. But in all fairness to the MK cast, that ending depicts Fang Wei if he learned what was in the scrolls. We learn that there was nothing in the scrolls, so Feng never got his hands on that type of power.



Yup, and they seem, pretty odd placed in Tekken. In MK, you have guys that can take souls, the walking dead, robots, dimension hoppers, and etc. And it aint like a it's just a few of'em. Most characters are beyond normal, in some way, in the MKverse. Not that that means they'll win or lose. However, it's still worth pointing out.

Actually this one is canon. The tekken 5 non-canon ending had him use the power of the scrolls, but we learn in tekken 6 that he never actually got his hands on them. So what he did in 6 he did under his own power.

TBH I dont think they cared whether it were the scrolls or not, they just went with the established power level.

Oh yeah, I'm gettin it confused with T5. But technically, that ending was never said to be canon and is highly depended on what info he found at the T6 tourney, however, I wont argue that that feat isn't within his power until his T6 epilogue is stated to be non canon, if it ever is. Until then, it's a go in my book.

This makes him the most powerful Tekken character, by showings, for now.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Nov 10, 2011 15:06:08 GMT -5 Coolest thing Alive said:

Nov 9, 2011 23:48:42 GMT -5 samz said:

Actually this one is canon. The tekken 5 non-canon ending had him use the power of the scrolls, but we learn in tekken 6 that he never actually got his hands on them. So what he did in 6 he did under his own power.

TBH I dont think they cared whether it were the scrolls or not, they just went with the established power level.

Oh yeah, I'm gettin it confused with T5. But technically, that ending was never said to be canon, however, I wont argue that that feat isn't within his power.

This makes him the most powerful Tekken character, by showings.

Nice sig bro. You love you some Morrigan.