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Post by JACK-2 on Feb 21, 2014 22:43:23 GMT -5
Being a beta myself. I can attest to this anecdotal unfortunately. Before I was cured, it used to get to me alot. Now I don't care, but having been there I can say the biggest problem is that betas are too desperate.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 22, 2014 1:08:36 GMT -5
Being a beta myself. I can attest to this anecdotal unfortunately. Before I was cured, it used to get to me alot. Now I don't care, but having been there I can say the biggest problem is that betas are too desperate. Well that's what I was thinking about when I made the thread. I wasn't annoyed with beta men, but I was getting really tired of the vaginal supplicators and whiners. Particularly the ones who sell themselves and men out to get laid. What they don't realize is they never get laid and only increase the price of sex for other men including themselves. You also see these guys on the internet even doing this. Go to any page or twitter or whatever of an attractive woman, model, etc. You'll see packs of men hanging around endlessly complementing these women and buying them gifts without even meeting or knowing them. It's hilarious as guys get taken to the bank time and time again with this nonsense. They'll never meet or have sex with these girls yet they act like they're married to her and "defend her honor". It's weird. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Feb 22, 2014 3:19:49 GMT -5
Well, I've never gone that far. But, yeah it's pretty pathetic. Like I said, I'm was or am a beta and I think alot of it comes down to not accepting the world for how it is. Specifically, not accepting women for how they are. It's not like the "alphas" don't share their secrets, pua information is everywhere. But, reality is too painful for them. So, they choose to believe in the whole fair damsel myth. Some people prefer the con to the truth even if it hurts them. It's the whole steak scene from the matrix.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 22, 2014 3:57:17 GMT -5
Well, I've never gone that far. But, yeah it's pretty pathetic. Like I said, I'm was or am a beta and I think alot of it comes down to not accepting the world for how it is. Specifically, not accepting women for how they are. It's not like the "alphas" don't share their secrets, pua information is everywhere. But, reality is too painful for them. So, they choose to believe in the whole fair damsel myth. Some people prefer the con to the truth even if it hurts them. It's the whole steak scene from the matrix. Lol the matrix, so cool. But yea, it's not helping them get laid and only makes it harder. I don't even think there are any magical secrets. I mean Tom Leykis and others have laid out some ground rules, but a general rule is the less you care the more she does, most guys try too hard. And there are the alternate versions. They are the ones who try to pretend to be "Alpha" by using "game". By game I don't mean just general knowledge of women, this is like some scam that is just another form of female supplication and ego boosting. It feeds into the insecurities of these men and then these betas compete over "getting laid". See that's the thing. There's nothing wrong with not getting laid if you simply don't want too. Betas do two things. Either they whine that they can't, or they talk about "gaming" and if every guy isn't chasing girls constantly like they supposedly are then they put those guys down. See people misinterpret that for alpha behavior. But men who are really getting all of the girls don't to go around bragging about it or seeking approval from others, they just do it. These guys are the equivalent of the animals who fight with each other while the real alpha is getting the women. Or those morons who pretend to be rich but really aren't and are just running up huge debt. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Feb 22, 2014 19:49:42 GMT -5
Well, betas also tend to be the defenders of traditional marriage and gender relationship. When the female liberation movement happened women were purposely freed from gender roles, while were inadvertently set free [even if society demonizes us]. Here's an excerpt from "The Myth of Male power" by Warren Farrel
• For thousands of years, marriages were in Stage I – survival-focused; after World War II, with Stage II – a self-fulfillment focus. P.42
• In Stage I, love meant a division of labor with a division of female and male interests. P.42
• In Stage II, love meant common interests and common values. P.42
Marriage is optional now. So, why would anyone be so adamant about marrying some bitch?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 23, 2014 2:30:34 GMT -5
Well, betas also tend to be the defenders of traditional marriage and gender relationship. When the female liberation movement happened women were purposely freed from gender roles, while were inadvertently set free [even if society demonizes us]. Here's an excerpt from "The Myth of Male power" by Warren Farrel • For thousands of years, marriages were in Stage I – survival-focused; after World War II, with Stage II – a self-fulfillment focus. P.42
• In Stage I, love meant a division of labor with a division of female and male interests. P.42
• In Stage II, love meant common interests and common values. P.42
Marriage is optional now. So, why would anyone be so adamant about marrying some bitch? Betas like monogamy because it's what redistributes women to them since they are less desirable. You still have morons living with some bitch because they think it will help them "get laid anytime they want". What the idiots don't realize is that once the woman has him signed on, she will cut back on the sex. Meaning the man would have been better off pursuing multiple women outside of marriage. These women aren't attracted to these men and probably resent him deep down. They only married him for a provider role, and since women can work they play around in their youth and marry when their youth fades. Much of that has to do with monogamy. Women wouldn't marry men they resent if you didn't have it so it would be a non-issue. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Feb 23, 2014 3:00:10 GMT -5
It'a really betas that are the problem. Why support a system that wants to screw you over?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 23, 2014 3:23:30 GMT -5
It'a really betas that are the problem. Why support a system that wants to screw you over? This is exactly the point! These betas go on and on about women this and women that (and I agree about the laws being bad and living with them and stuff like that), and then they continue supplicating them and kissing up to them. These issues with women are all caused by betas. Vote with your feet, kind of the same thing with leaving the country because of taxes. Also, read this: "Many guys will dislike this, because it implies that women are sluts and untrustworthy. Well, I can only speak from my experience and report back what I’ve seen. I’m also posting in a semi-satirical tone – I haven’t gone off the deepend….. yet… 
A secret society exists. Around 52% of people on this earth are a part of it.
Of that 52%, 50% are women, 2% are men.
Of that 2%, 1% of those men are gay, the other 1% are players.
What I’m talking about is the sex secret society – and you are either *IN* or *OUT*.
SOME RULES OF THE SECRET SOCIETY:
1) Don’t talk about the secret society.
2) The priority of the secret society is to have perpetually good emotions in all members.
3) Create shrowds around the secret society, like “all men are dogs”. Hide the truth that women are far more likely to cheat than men.
4) If you are part of the secret society, you will never be denied anything at any point.
5) If you are not part of the secret society, you will scrap and beg for everything you get.
6) Communication in the secret society is less often verbal, and more often spoken through bodylanguage subcommunications, and verbal subcommunications that would only make sense to members. Any other way, and the 48% of men would pick up on it, and it would no longer be a secret.
7) At the first sign that someone who is not part of the secret society is possibly trying to pretend that he is, barate him with both love-rhetoric, and accusations of chauvanism and nit-witted-ness.
It’s OK to cheat on someone who is not a part of the secret society, so long as it is for the purpose of fulfilling the needs of someone who is, or if it to fulfill your own needs and it is with someone who is a part of the secret society. Sleeping with a rare guy from the secret society is no worse than grinding with a girlfriend at a club and making out with her. “It doesn’t count”.
9) Nobody judges eachother in the secret society. There is no such thing as a slut. A slut is only as slutty as people who are NOT in the secret society are aware of.
10) Secret society members COME FIRST. If someone in the society is not having fun with an interaction, it is cut off. Conversely, if a secret society male is with a non-secret-society male, and a secret society female (all females) decides she wants sex from the secret society male, the friend of the female may have sex with the non-secret-society male, because EVERYONE in the interaction must feel good. However, if the non-secret-society male is blowing himself out so badly that he makes the female member feel very bad emotions, then the secret-society-male must face the consequences of bringing negative emotions into the equation, and lose out on his privilege for sex in that interaction, until he ditches the non-secret-society male. Bear minimum requirements for non-secret-society males being grandfathered in with the male member, is that he not qualify himself or make anyone feel uncomfortable. Failing to meet those requirements, both are blown out.
WHAT IS THE SECRET SOCIETY?
Women are repressed by men, and so must look out for themselves. They will take care of:
1) Their own sexual needs.
2) The sexual needs of anyone in the secret society.
3) The sexual needs of the few males who make the secret society possible (“players”).
The secret society is what allows women to appear wholesome and allows them to screen for a long term provider/emotionaltampon.
Women hold off to find the perfect boyfriend, while sleeping with a guy who is likely sleeping with all of their friends, and their friends friends.
They also fuck their gay boyfriends or jerk them off or give them head. They’re part of the secret society too, so they can’t be left out.
EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS FROM SECRET SOCIETY INSIDERS (based on dozens of interviews I did over the summer, with girls in London England, as well as some from my own experience as a player):
1) If you tell a girl that you’re gay, and that you want to “see what it feels like to be with a girl”, she’ll sleep with you. She won’t insist on using a condom either, unless you do. You’re part of the secret society, where condoms aren’t necessary because they are logical entities and not emotionally relevant.
2) If you subcommunicate that you are a part of the secret society, and tell the friend of your target “I’m really lonely. My girlfriend cheated on me, and I need to re-validate myself tonight”, she’ll tell her friend to fuck you. Her friend will realize from this that you are a part of the secret society, and she’ll fuck you. Moreover, if the friend refuses, the ugly girl will offer you a blowjob to help you out.
3) If you manage to verbally subcommunicate that you are a member (its still subcommunication, because the verbal ways you communicate it aren’t direct at all), the secret society members will gladly tell you all about their sexual exploits and adventures. As soon as you subcommunicate that you desire romance, she will immediately retract all of her previous statements (and she’ll look completely congruent doing so), and downplay them that it was something she did just one time and that she’s looking for a relationship.PUA: “I love to go out and hook up. I hate it when girls try to run my life”.. HB: “Me too.. I hooked up with guys all last year.. My boyfriend tried to control me, but I do what I want.. My girlfriends all do it too.”PUA: “Really? Cause to be honest, I’ve always felt like I’m a romantic guy.. And girls always cheat on me.. I want to find a girl who won’t cheat.”HB: “I would never cheat. Guys are dogs. I’m always loyal.”PUA: “But didn’t you say…”HB: “No, I said nothing.”PUA: “No, you said that you don’t let your boyfriend control you and you do what you want.”HB: “No, I didn’t mean that. I’m not a slut. I have no idea what you’re talking about, I didn’t say that.”
4) If you are a member, and say that you are really lonely and you need someone to snuggle and makeout with, all members of the secret society will agree to do so with you. If you are a girl, you have privilege to snuggle and kiss and sleep in the same bed as all other girls. If you are gay, you can do the same. If it escalates to sex, its an accident and does not count. If you’re a player, and you make girls around you emotional, and the friends are all in good emotions about it, they sleep with you. No one is a slut in the secret society, because the secret society does not judge.
5) If a group of girls living together find a guy who is in the secret society, they will all fuck him. They’ll recommend him as an honourary secret society member, and enjoy him. Meanwhile they may be in relationships with non-secret society members that they’ve fallen in love with, however this is not an issue because nobody in the secret society judges and sex with people in the secret society does not count. If you are a secret society member now, but in the past enjoyed a romantic relationship, what you may not realize is the part that was left out of the romance novel story (due to rules no1&2 of the secret society code), which was that after you dropped her off your romantic star watching, a secret society member came by and fucked the shit out of her without a condom and gave her the money shot all over her face.
6) If a secret society male has a non member male friend, the friend of the girl who wants sex from the male member will have sex with the non-member even if she doesn’t like him. However, rules state that if if the non-member is “creepy/scary” (kinos too much, leans in too much, asks dumb questions, tries too hard to impress, overqualifies), then the male member will be expected to return either alone or with another male member. Also, the male members must remember that positive emotions are always priority, and if he is alone he must still maintain the positive emotions of the female member who will not be getting sex, secret society rules not to be breached. Number 1 rule of the secret society, outside of not talking about it, is that EVERYONE maintains GOOD emotions.
THE UNDERLYING MISUNDERSTOOD TRUTH OF THE SECRET SOCIETY:
The 49% of men who live outside of the secret society don’t understand the mental model of attraction of people who are in the secret society.
Men view attraction in their MALE MENTAL MODELS. They believe that attraction is “sexual aggression”. They understand attraction as having a physical urge to have sex, and then mentally deciding that you will go after it.
They try to seduce women by touching and grabbing them, and getting them very horny. They try to seduce them in the SAME WAY that a woman would do well seducing THEM. They try to seduce them as if they were seducing a GUY. This sometimes works, and the propaganda is spread – “this is how to get chicks”.
Secret society members will not fill them in, due to breach of the code.
What the secret society members are not telling you, is that they understand that most sex occurs when women are not sexually AGGRESSIVE, but sexually RECEPTIVE.
They understand that for women to be ready for sex, they need not feel horny, they need only feel EMOTIONAL.
They understand that women are not logical, and that they are emotional. They understand that for women sex is not a big deal at all, and that its their LOGIC that puts the breaks on it.
They understand that most women are afraid of sex because they lack TRUST, and because their LOGIC is putting on the breaks.
They disarm logic by making the women EMOTIONAL, so that their LOGIC (which is the BREAKS of emotion) becomes disarmed, and at the same time maintain TRUST, so that the emotions generated won’t be interfered with.
Then they simply have sex, because although the women are not WANTING sex, they are too EMOTIONAL to DECLINE sex. Then, once they BEGIN to have a physical interaction, the women become horny and sexually aggressive as a result, and sex begins.
(NOTE: This is why girls must COCKBLOCK for eachother. Because they know that clubs are emotionally charged environments, and that it wouldn’t take much for a guy to use her resulting sexual receptiveness to lay her. The guy may not be a guy that the girl would lay normally, were she feeling more logical, so the girls must look out for eachother. Guys don’t need to do this because firstly, they will not be judged for sleeping around (no logic), secondly, they are sexually aggressive – not receptive – so their decisions will not be regretted later usually, and thirdly, because they do not need trust because they are not usually in any physical danger).
They also understand that value + trust + attraction = sex (rough lazy model).
Value = being someone in the secret society (it can also be SO many other things, but being a member can in some cases be sufficient)
Trust = not telegraphing interest
Attraction = increasing her buying temperature by making her emotional (emotionally aroused, not necessarily physically aroused.. the former will cause her to be too illogical to prevent you from causing the latter, when she’s ready)
Don’t tell anyone about this. All knowledge will be denied and you will be ridiculed.
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Post by JACK-2 on Feb 23, 2014 4:07:48 GMT -5
I've read that before lol. Yeah, it's true, especially if you compare it with the mechanics of female hypergamy. These guys are never gonna get laid by hot young women. They'll just settle for women past their prime who've finish fucking all the bad boys they can and now need an emotional tampon to "settle down" with. Can't say I feel sorry for these morons. Especially when they white knight.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 23, 2014 4:16:06 GMT -5
I've read that before lol. Yeah, it's true, especially if you compare it with the mechanics of female hypergamy. These guys are never gonna get laid by hot young women. They'll just settle for women past their prime who've finish fucking all the bad boys they can and now need an emotional tampon to "settle down" with. Can't say I feel sorry for these morons. Especially when they white knight. The white knights are some of the worst. They sell themselves out to get approval from these women who will never do anything with them. They shame men because they think it's a way they'll get a whiff of some pussy but it never works. It's funny because that page was true; most guys are simply oblivious to what goes on and the nature of women. I can't count how many married women or women with boyfriends would hit on my shamelessly or even in front of their men. They simply don't care and it's no big deal to them. They simply don't want to be seen as whores, which is why they have so much vacation sex. I've known women who will help each other cheat, even if their friend is married! It's insane. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Feb 23, 2014 4:21:55 GMT -5
It's idealism really. They have this view of women and the world that they refuse to accept isn't true. So, they swallow the blue pill and then ant when it doesn't go their way all while ignoring reality. It's disgusting and it's why I don't feel sorry for them.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 23, 2014 4:35:17 GMT -5
It's idealism really. They have this view of women and the world that they refuse to accept isn't true. So, they swallow the blue pill and then ant when it doesn't go their way all while ignoring reality. It's disgusting and it's why I don't feel sorry for them. It's like Marxism or fanboyism. They have to believe these things and will undergo cognitive dissonance when the truth is revealed. Then they complain or use shaming language while ignoring the obvious. |
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