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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 12, 2014 12:23:45 GMT -5
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 12, 2014 13:41:56 GMT -5
Hey you, hope you're well. Pretty solid list, though I don't consider Odin a "hero" in that sense. Glad they have Flash there. I still find those discussions interesting with Flash in them because he's so broken. At least it's getting around that he's pretty much broken in a forum setting and trounces Superman (though the Flash is my favorite DC character).
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 12, 2014 14:27:49 GMT -5
Yeah, Odin was a total curve-ball. He's not really a hero, they should have just inserted King Thor if they wanted a Thor character capable of taking down supes. This is a good list overall, I had no idea Supreme and Mister Majestic were so strong.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 12, 2014 14:35:45 GMT -5
Yeah, Odin was a total curve-ball. He's not really a hero, they should have just inserted King Thor if they wanted a Thor character capable of taking down supes. This is a good list overall, I had no idea Supreme and Mister Majestic were so strong. Those two were more interesting reads. Martian Manhunter just has the pesky fire issue, but he is very underrated.
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 12, 2014 14:39:19 GMT -5
He also put gladiator over supes. I had no clue that Gladiator was more super than Superman.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 12, 2014 15:15:38 GMT -5
He also put gladiator over supes. I had no clue that Gladiator was more super than Superman. People would be willing to debate that as Superman has his own share of insane feats, but I definitely think he can compete with him.
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 12, 2014 19:31:36 GMT -5
If you factor in high-ends, Supes [Post Crisis and New 52] would be higher. Once in a blue moon he reaches PC levels. Another thing I've discovered is Post Crisis supes is Light Speed at best. I can't find any FTL speed feats.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 12, 2014 19:59:52 GMT -5
If you factor in high-ends, Supes [Post Crisis and New 52] would be higher. Once in a blue moon he reaches PC levels. Another thing I've discovered is Post Crisis supes is Light Speed at best. I can't find any FTL speed feats. Hmmm people always say he has tons of FTL stuff.
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 12, 2014 22:27:59 GMT -5
I've reviewed all the so called FTL speed feats. None of them pan out, it was just hot air. Many feats tend to be hype in generally, in supes case. Post Crisis hasn't shown a single FTL speed feat. He's lightspeed at best and one comic had him outright saying that.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 13, 2014 2:52:01 GMT -5
I've reviewed all the so called FTL speed feats. None of them pan out, it was just hot air. Many feats tend to be hype in generally, in supes case. Post Crisis hasn't shown a single FTL speed feat. He's lightspeed at best and one comic had him outright saying that. Funny since everyone says Superman has a ton of feats of him going massively FTL. What do you have?
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 16, 2014 15:35:48 GMT -5
Here are a couple of examples of statements putting him at SOL max: And here's where he outright states he's not faster than light.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 16, 2014 15:49:24 GMT -5
Here are a couple of examples of statements putting him at SOL max: And here's where he outright states he's not faster than light. I know that some have shown some space travel speed feats that were fast but those seem inconsistent.
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 16, 2014 17:34:07 GMT -5
The problem with the space feats is that the time frame is unknown. But, a more compelling reason he's not FTL is that IIRC, if you move faster than light in DC you'll cross into the speed-force.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 16, 2014 18:13:03 GMT -5
The problem with the space feats is that the time frame is unknown. But, a more compelling reason he's not FTL is that IIRC, if you move faster than light in DC you'll cross into the speed-force. People make a lot of light speed feats for Wonder Woman and Green Lantern too. I don't think it's consistently enough to put them anywhere near Flash level speed.
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 26, 2014 17:47:18 GMT -5
Superman makes good use of his speed, but I'm not sure about Diana.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 26, 2014 17:51:39 GMT -5
Superman makes good use of his speed, but I'm not sure about Diana. Did you ever see that scan where Bruce said that Diana was faster in a fight?
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Post by JACK-2 on Sept 26, 2014 17:54:02 GMT -5
Yeah, it caused alot of controversy. I think Bruce was trying to say she has much faster reflexes and reaction time. But, Superman didn't agree. Batman is one of the best fighters in DCU. So, his opinion is probably right.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Sept 26, 2014 18:02:10 GMT -5
Yeah, it caused alot of controversy. I think Bruce was trying to say she has much faster reflexes and reaction time. But, Superman didn't agree. Batman is one of the best fighters in DCU. So, his opinion is probably right. I think the fighting skill thing gets blown out of water. I remember the morons saying that Spider-Man would lose to a human trained MA because he "has no skill" despite being a fighter for decades. You need to have the use in field as well. I'm not sure she does physiologically but she probably has more training that allows her to keep with Superman. That seems to make the most sense.
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Post by KitsuneRae on Jan 31, 2015 1:07:58 GMT -5
Green lantern :3 <3
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 31, 2015 1:40:27 GMT -5
Green Lantern is definitely versatile enough to beat Superman. Superman does have really great speed/reaction time though.
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