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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jun 3, 2015 15:26:26 GMT -5
I believe they got this wrong. SF characters just tend to be above MK characters overall and this is no exception here, not sure how Scorpion tanked the fullpower hadoken. Major no limits fallacy.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jun 3, 2015 17:36:25 GMT -5
MK is like peak human but with fireballs. SF is full on Meta-humans, Ryu can dodge bullets for example. He should wreck Scorpion.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jun 3, 2015 17:41:52 GMT -5
MK is like peak human but with fireballs. SF is full on Meta-humans, Ryu can dodge bullets for example. He should wreck Scorpion. Yea outside of "gods" who aren't that impressive comparatively, MK is more down to earth. Scorpion was beaten by Johnny Cage, but MK fanboys like to rely on no limit fallacies and "they're gods!" arguments.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jun 3, 2015 17:49:50 GMT -5
They have some descent feats like MK1 Raiden hosting a tournament composed only of Gods that eventually destroyed the Earth and what not. But, overall they're weak. Relics like Kamidogu would be a threat, but the average fighter is not on SF level.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jun 3, 2015 17:51:34 GMT -5
They have some descent feats like MK1 Raiden hosting a tournament composed only of Gods that eventually destroyed the Earth and what not. But, overall they're weak. Relics like Kamidogu would be a threat, but the average fighter is not on SF level. Many of those feats aren't even canon, many fighters have multiple endings so it can be tricky. Fanboys love to abuse this.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jun 3, 2015 18:14:55 GMT -5
Yeah, seriously. There are endings where Liu Kang beats Raiden FFS lol. Unlike SF, most of the endings in MK serve no other purpose but entertainment.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jun 3, 2015 18:36:04 GMT -5
Liu Kang beat Kahn somehow canonically so I wouldn't put it past him. He's a bad character lol.
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Post by Blaze72 on Jun 6, 2015 5:12:39 GMT -5
You think that's bad should check out the Ryu vs Green Ranger fight that was done by 'Bat In The Sun', The had Green Ranger win doesn't help when they're best friends with JDF.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jun 6, 2015 5:59:25 GMT -5
You think that's bad should check out the Ryu vs Green Ranger fight that was done by 'Bat In The Sun', The had Green Ranger win doesn't help when they're best friends with JDF. Bias knows no bounds. Deathbattle generally does a solid job, but there are some I just shake my head at.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jun 20, 2015 17:53:59 GMT -5
For me, Deathbattle is my new versus. There analysis is generally really good and so are their calcs. They do occasionally mess up in some versus, but overall I trust them. It's been a while since I've enjoyed versus and Deathbattle has rekindled my interest in it. No more dumb fanboys.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jun 20, 2015 18:02:55 GMT -5
For me, Deathbattle is my new versus. There analysis is generally really good and so are their calcs. They do occasionally mess up in some versus, but overall I trust them. It's been a while since I've enjoyed versus and Deathbattle has rekindled my interest in it. No more dumb fanboys. As long as you avoid the youtube comments. They are pretty solid though. At least they try to explain and rely less on emotion, though it does seem like they have favorites too. I like the TMNT one though.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jun 20, 2015 18:15:35 GMT -5
Yeah, there explanations seem to make sense and are much more thorough than the average versus moron. The Ryu Vs Scorpion made a mistake in that Raging Demon should have killed Scorpion. Since it can destroy your soul. I think it was an honest mistake, rather than bias. The worst versus match they had was Ryu Hayabusa Vs Strider Hiryu.
What I like is they get the ball rolling. They did Goku Vs Superman and then moved on. If fanboys want to continue debating it then that's there business. But, smart people can move on and unlike the other Goku Vs Superman debates like the one Wizard did back in the day. This one actually has demonstrable proof. Not that proof will stop wankers.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jun 20, 2015 19:58:43 GMT -5
They also neglected the tremendous physical difference between Ryu and Scorpion much like they did with Bison vs Shao Kahn. The former characters in those matches are just way too powerful. What the hell did Scorpion ever do besides get killed by Elder Sub and then beaten up by Moloch and Drahmin IN THE NETHERREALM!
People just go for the "badass" fanboy characters in most cases.
Why didn't you like Ryu vs Strider?
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Post by JACK-2 on Jun 20, 2015 20:11:33 GMT -5
They forgot to give Ryu all his weapons and ninpo lol.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jun 20, 2015 20:15:01 GMT -5
They forgot to give Ryu all his weapons and ninpo lol. I have to see that one but I think they should state gear early on. Nothing worse than fanboys trying to wank characters with plot device weapons. Remember Cloud at KMC wanking Hayabusa? Kratos fans do it too.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jun 20, 2015 20:17:12 GMT -5
I have to see that one but I think they should state gear early on. Nothing worse than fanboys trying to wank characters with plot device weapons. Remember Cloud at KMC wanking Hayabusa? Kratos fans do it too. Cloud, now that takes me back. That moron used plot device weapons to try to argue Hayabusa could beat whatever character he said lol.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jun 20, 2015 20:22:58 GMT -5
I have to see that one but I think they should state gear early on. Nothing worse than fanboys trying to wank characters with plot device weapons. Remember Cloud at KMC wanking Hayabusa? Kratos fans do it too. Cloud, now that takes me back. That moron used plot device weapons to try to argue Hayabusa could beat whatever character he said lol. One of the few people Darkstorm actually hated.
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