The Big Daddy C-Master
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jul 19, 2015 6:48:37 GMT -5
Who wins this time?
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Post by JACK-2 on Jul 19, 2015 13:42:09 GMT -5
lol, that was too funny.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jul 19, 2015 14:06:38 GMT -5
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Post by JACK-2 on Jul 21, 2015 23:52:59 GMT -5
He lost twice and this time even worst than before lol.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jul 22, 2015 3:53:32 GMT -5
He lost twice and this time even worst than before lol. They should be clear on the Superman they're using, or else it just gets messy and weird. They also have to be careful not to use only his best stuff without averaging it out.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jul 22, 2015 12:54:16 GMT -5
They don't average out tbh. Also, the use use absolute high-ends like him lifting Spectre and that infinite book. Surprised they didn't use the wheels of Mageddon. The also mentioned using Superman with his mental blocks off. So, that's post-mongol Jr. training. DBZ tards don't know squat about superman so they have no idea. At their Superman wins, on average he still wins, and so on.
Plus without power-scaling what new feats did Goku even get? I remember you saying the samething too, BOTG was more of the same.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jul 22, 2015 19:32:06 GMT -5
They don't average out tbh. Also, the use use absolute high-ends like him lifting Spectre and that infinite book. Surprised they didn't use the wheels of Mageddon. The also mentioned using Superman with his mental blocks off. So, that's post-mongol Jr. training. DBZ tards don't know squat about superman so they have no idea. At their Superman wins, on average he still wins, and so on. Plus without power-scaling what new feats did Goku even get? I remember you saying the samething too, BOTG was more of the same. The only problem with absolute high ends is you don't get the general scale of the character, especially if you differentiate if it is post crisis, New 52, or Pre Crisis. Bat fanboys love to use his best stuff because it's absurd. Goku loses regardless.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jul 22, 2015 20:03:23 GMT -5
Agree'd, it would have been a much better fight if they avoided using his absolute best feats. One point the made I loved is that bringing up a time when Super lost doesn't mean anything, especially if it happened early on in his career.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jul 22, 2015 20:08:55 GMT -5
Agree'd, it would have been a much better fight if they avoided using his absolute best feats. One point the made I loved is that bringing up a time when Super lost doesn't mean anything, especially if it happened early on in his career. Well you end up with characters who get wanked by a writer or have a showing that's way out of their norm. Superman has been around for the better part of a century so of course he has stupid stuff. That's why feat wars can be dumb. It reminds me of this quote. "No look, I can prove it:
Superman vs. Galactus. Who wins? Galactus is the sensible answer, right? Now lets go by feats and see where that line of reasoning takes us:
Superman has traveled 25 lightyears in the time it takes to say about four sentences. That means he's millions of times faster than light. Superman has vibrated intangible in combat against Doomsday, and has also vibrated to match specific universal frequencies to stop dimensions from collapsing. That means he can't be hit. Superman's lifted a book with infinite mass with help from Captain Marvel. But half of infinity is still infinity. Plus, Ultraman who is roughly equal to Superman and whom Superman has beaten in the space lifted it by himself. That means Superman has infinite strength. Superman is durable enough to fly through black holes and double-black holes like they're made of bubble gum. That means he's more durable than...um, stars?
"But Eny what about Supes' weaknesses lulz!?" Okay. Superman has been struck with a blast of red solar radiation right in the chest by a nebula-sized monster (Sun Eater) and was still powerful enough to toss an entropy bomb at it and escape the explosion at FTL speeds. "Ur forgetting about K-nite, Eny!?" Okay. Superman's had his blood transmuted into Kryptonite by Cosmic King. Superman fought through it and one-shot him.
Superman's also resisted top tier matter manipulation, reality manipulation, and psychic manipulation - sometimes at the universal-scale level.
Let's review, shall we: Superman is millions of times FTL with infinite strength and his weaknesses don't mean a damn thing. He can't lose to Galactus.
But he does erm Damn. Feats suck."
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