The Main Concept of SJW

[Great Dark Hero]

Greetings all forum members and staff,

The purpose of this thread is to showcase exactly why the SJW is a flawed concept. Ever since around... last year or so, people... including people that do not play video games AT ALL and people that had been playing video games for YEARS have suddenly been acting rather... strange. I got a feeling it has something to do with that GamerGate nonsense. These are the individuals who are worried about oversexualization in video games, particularly for female characters. When logical individuals really think about this, nothing about this sudden spreading of feminazis, wierd ass social justice articles and overreactions make any sense. The guys are either overreacting hilariously or they are feeding off of this trend for the sake of self-gain or popularity. An otherwords, females depicted as hot and sexy in video games (as they really "should" be anyway if game developers are smart)... is wrong. Sexy and likable female characters are a "sin" or a "waste of character" slot (speaking in terms of fighting games for example). R. Mika for example gets this a lot, despite of her popularity. It is perfectly fine not to like a specific character, but the whole "Stop liking what I don't like" mentality really needs to stop. Sexy female character is the most fucked up thing in the entire universe. Sexy females are "satanic" to these individuals. Tet, these people happily accept exceedingly over-the-top violence which is very hypocritical. Where exactly were these people in the 90's? Yes, yes. Games such as Mortal Kombat sparked quite a few issues with people here and there... but what? At the time, it was considered to be only of minor hindrance if anything and the game itself is technically responsible for making the ESRB rating system (which a lot of people STILL don't pay attention for some odd reason). Plus, there is also a rather wierd habit going on between gamers as well, particular male gamers. For some reason, a very small minority has this wierd tendency of wanting "purposely ugly or extremely old" female characters. The ONLY reason why any game developer would do that is if there is a legitimate reason behind it and if the game is already suitable for the target audience, offering a lot of other likable aspects. Otherwise, creating a "purposely ugly" or "old" female character would not do any good. Or, better yet... this small minorities in the Western audience for video games (as an... a couple hundred or a thousand players among over billions and billions of the majority of players) want female characters to come across as "manly."
For what? "Originality?" "Equality?"
No. That's not a good enough argument. Because, there are other factors to consider, such as the... what the game developers themselves want. The nature of the series. The series general approach towards the background. Plus, the MAJORITY of players actually do like subjects such as R. Mika for example (the reason why R. Mika continues to be mentioned is because she is a very recent example of the ridicule that the so-called SJW / Feminazi... or general "hater" groups... that the character faces).
If these players want to have a bunch of disgusting-looking or "overly" conservative females or manly-female characters.... they can either go play... any Post 09 Mortal Kombat related game... or they can make their own game. This is part of the reason why many Japanese (or any game developer outside of the West) do not take the Western SJW audience seriously.
If I have to choose R. Mika... over some wierd... badly designed, purposely ugly female character made by some helpless fanboy... I will EMBRACE R. Mika.

This video is going to summarize the issue quite nicely.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 9, 2015 20:36:36 GMT -5 Great Dark Hero said:

Greetings all forum members and staff,

The purpose of this thread is to showcase exactly why the SJW is a flawed concept. Ever since around... last year or so, people... including people that do not play video games AT ALL and people that had been playing video games for YEARS have suddenly been acting rather... strange. I got a feeling it has something to do with that GamerGate nonsense. These are the individuals who are worried about oversexualization in video games, particularly for female characters. When logical individuals really think about this, nothing about this sudden spreading of feminazis, wierd ass social justice articles and overreactions make any sense. The guys are either overreacting hilariously or they are feeding off of this trend for the sake of self-gain or popularity. An otherwords, females depicted as hot and sexy in video games (as they really "should" be anyway if game developers are smart)... is wrong. Sexy and likable female characters are a "sin" or a "waste of character" slot (speaking in terms of fighting games for example). R. Mika for example gets this a lot, despite of her popularity. It is perfectly fine not to like a specific character, but the whole "Stop liking what I don't like" mentality really needs to stop. Sexy female character is the most fucked up thing in the entire universe. Sexy females are "satanic" to these individuals. Tet, these people happily accept exceedingly over-the-top violence which is very hypocritical. Where exactly were these people in the 90's? Yes, yes. Games such as Mortal Kombat sparked quite a few issues with people here and there... but what? At the time, it was considered to be only of minor hindrance if anything and the game itself is technically responsible for making the ESRB rating system (which a lot of people STILL don't pay attention for some odd reason). Plus, there is also a rather wierd habit going on between gamers as well, particular male gamers. For some reason, a very small minority has this wierd tendency of wanting "purposely ugly or extremely old" female characters. The ONLY reason why any game developer would do that is if there is a legitimate reason behind it and if the game is already suitable for the target audience, offering a lot of other likable aspects. Otherwise, creating a "purposely ugly" or "old" female character would not do any good. Or, better yet... this small minorities in the Western audience for video games (as an... a couple hundred or a thousand players among over billions and billions of the majority of players) want female characters to come across as "manly."
For what? "Originality?" "Equality?"
No. That's not a good enough argument. Because, there are other factors to consider, such as the... what the game developers themselves want. The nature of the series. The series general approach towards the background. Plus, the MAJORITY of players actually do like subjects such as R. Mika for example (the reason why R. Mika continues to be mentioned is because she is a very recent example of the ridicule that the so-called SJW / Feminazi... or general "hater" groups... that the character faces).
If these players want to have a bunch of disgusting-looking or "overly" conservative females or manly-female characters.... they can either go play... any Post 09 Mortal Kombat related game... or they can make their own game. This is part of the reason why many Japanese (or any game developer outside of the West) do not take the Western SJW audience seriously.
If I have to choose R. Mika... over some wierd... badly designed, purposely ugly female character made by some helpless fanboy... I will EMBRACE R. Mika.

This video is going to summarize the issue quite nicely.

That's the beauty of the free market. If a person doesn't like something they're more than willing to make their own game. These ugly women and beta male losers will never put up the money and time/energy to make a game like that themselves, because they know it won't work. Instead they sit around and pander for equality that we don't need, as women and minorities already have special rights that they shouldn't be getting over other groups anyways.

Most of these idiots are just following the crowd or are trying to get laid. The women are ugly and resentful. This is the only way they'll get male attention. The best thing to do is to ignore these types of people and just focus on making games that we enjoy.

One of the main reasons that we use attractive women in design is because we want to! I enjoy designing and drawing attractive women and in my speed drawing sessions I've been using the females more, although I like drawing robots and your typical heroic male/muscle type because of the detail.

If I want to look at ugly women I can go to Wal Mart. These games are for fantasy and entertainment and we want to see the best of the best. Why don't we cater things that women enjoy (like 50 Shades of Grey) to men? Why not shopping malls or anything else "pro women"? Why does everything have to cater to women and not the other way around? It's dumb.

[JACK-2]

Some people claimed they are glad Capcom didn't cave into the pressure. R.Mika was always going to be sexed up. No, amount of tooth knashing and angry fist would change this. Japan being a none western culture isn't subject to our demands. It also makes no sense for people to expect them to cater to western taste outside of marketing a product. That's a tad bit culturally imperialistic, but like the last time Western SJW tried to shame a Japanese developer. They pretty much got the finger.

SPOILER: Click to show

What makes Japan so anathema to SJW in gaming is that they are so core to Video Games and are immune to this political crap. Look at Bayonetta!

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 10, 2015 12:59:48 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Some people claimed they are glad Capcom didn't cave into the pressure. R.Mika was always going to be sexed up. No, amount of tooth knashing and angry fist would change this. Japan being a none western culture isn't subject to our demands. It also makes no sense for people to expect them to cater to western taste outside of marketing a product. That's a tad bit culturally imperialistic, but like the last time Western SJW tried to shame a Japanese developer. They pretty much got the finger.

SPOILER: Click to show

What makes Japan so anathema to SJW in gaming is that they are so core to Video Games and are immune to this political crap. Look at Bayonetta!

Lol like a boss. Funny thing is I've seen these SJW types defend Bayonetta because they felt her sexuality was "appropriate and empowering", so basically when they like something it's ok and when they don't it's not. The biggest shame is American culture takes these losers seriously.

[Great Dark Hero]

Some more elaboration!

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[Rant coming]

Rise of political correctness.

Granted before women, minorities, homosexuals, etc were inadequately treated by the establishment back then and were warranted reform for equality. Problem is instead of a social issue it became a common political tool for personal/group gain. Problem is these radical groups don't just want to be satisfied and sit on the same seat of the round table like everyone else, but want a higher chair to push their own independent interests. People with various forms of power [running websites, news networks, group leaders, social media figure, etc] all have a personal agenda and would exploit old wounds. People now demand x amount of y type of human regardless of qualification for example just so they are not outed by the torch/pitchfork mob by those people of power which would smear their business. It becomes a common political topic now in recent elections. You see it all the time in American media where x group accuses y group of racism, misogynist, homophobia, etc for those reasons as an attempt to whip up a blood frenzy usually sensationalized by the media because the media knows the country is very addicted to any social issues such as this which means good ratings. If you are not apart of the political correctness then your commonly branded a bigot by the angry mob. Note everything I said above was directed at the extremists/have alternative motives.

I'm not saying the idea of feminism or whatever is inherently evil [someone already misinterpreted before], but I'm simply pointing out that there are people that push it for more then simply better treatment toward women in media. I have friends for example that identify themselves as feminists, but are disgusted with some of the SJW agendas that demand the industries to appease to them rather then bring about it with their own power. I mean look at the Neptunia series creator Mizuno Naoko. She didn't demand/bully the industry to appease to her because she was a woman. She used her own power to involve herself in the industry and did it on her own by creating several games. Ironically it was a game aimed for males which is quite lewd which damages the 'all women want to feel empowered' angle that I see often in tumblr and Gaf. Actually not completely true. Nep games are female only playables that are strong, makes the males portrayed as weak, and they are not ladies in distress. Just some of them happened to look lewd, but that can be argued as an independent art direction.

Naturally this new shift of politics overlapped into the various business industries including the videogame industry. That said not everyone caved to outside pressure at least not completely. Everyone has their own ideologues including localizers. You get a rough idea on how some localizers handle it. XSEED for example is one of the more lenient ones while Gaijinworks is not so much. TN localizers are likely between them two. They are willing to bring over DoA 5, all the characters/costumes/gravure videos, but they won't advertise on the gravure videos or some of the costumes due to Western Sensibilities since it's safe to assume the majority of Westerners are susceptible to culture shock. Society shapes the individual and each individual with their own personality has a different society experience.

Like men, women are intelligent enough to formulate their own critical thinking. They shouldn't all be hive-minded and just follow the trend because everyone else is doing it. The HDN creator was just one example. See that is the beauty of choice. There are plenty of alternatives that have different female designs [whether 'liberating' or not] and even games that target purely to women. It would be as awkward as a male complaining that Otome games doesn't have any female love interests and that male will 'feel oppressed' and demand the developers cater to him by being pulling similar melodramtic stunts you see often in the West. Should the Otome game change because of that? If some women are shallow enough to feel that showing videogame females in swimsuits doing beach shenanigans is gonna set the women social movement back 100 years or whatever then quite honestly that makes me roll my eyes. As someone who surrounds himself with an actual feminist crowd they care about more important things. Such as making sure women are being paid the same compared to men if they are just as qualified. If society already sensationalizes provocatively dressed underage women on a daily basis on magazine covers then they are not gonna pay much attention about a niche videogame presentation. That is the key different between legitimate feminists and SJW jokers.

P.S I'm not frustrated if this game comes over or not. I'm no stranger of importing. I've imported several Vita games that pretty much had no chance to come here unless heavily censored or impossible license hurdles are jumped. That said there ARE people frustrated for a variety of reasons. I'm just stating the reality of the situation based on deductive reasoning. Not much room for alternative conclusions when they specifically stated at reveal this was a JPN/Asia region release [yes I know they later said 'show interest and maybe something can happen' but the fact that this series that already have two localizations have to deal with that is telling when they are hesitating] and how the JPN/Asia audience were the primary population that dictated the roster choice is giving you an idea of the direction this might take.

Source: www.freestepdodge.com/threads/official-dead-or-alive-xtreme-3-thread.5324/page-48

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Essentially these groups use the government as a means of exercising extra "rights" at the expense of others which is why we should not have systems like this. It just makes the problem worse. This includes black people as well.

The government is happy to play along because they buy votes and they get to interfere in people's lives. With enough mainstream brainwashing every else jumps on board.

[JACK-2]

It really doesn't matter to me. The gaming media has no credibility and I don't consider myself part of the culture.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 12, 2015 22:43:16 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

It really doesn't matter to me. The gaming media has no credibility and I don't consider myself part of the culture.

SJW's have gotten into various forms of media and ruined it from movies on down unfortunately.

[Great Dark Hero]

Now this person says it how it is.

EDIT:
This is the article that was mentioned by AlphaOmegaSin within the video.
www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/07/20/enough-entire-entertainment-industry-says-no-more-to-social-justice-warriors/

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Oct 15, 2015 15:20:41 GMT -5 Great Dark Hero said:

Now this person says it how it is.

EDIT:
This is the article that was mentioned by AlphaOmegaSin within the video.
www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/07/20/enough-entire-entertainment-industry-says-no-more-to-social-justice-warriors/

Awesome! Keep it up!

It *is* all about feigned outrage with the mainstream media and liberal types. It's all about form over substance and hypocrisy to push their stupid message. They're just totalitarian morons who want to establish control over everything. I'm tired of these groups.

He reminds me of a black person with the way he phrases things, lol.

[JACK-2]

They won't "F" off until people stop catering to them. The gaming community is at fault too because it doesn't organize well enough to stop cancer like this from festering. Boycotts never work because people have no self control. Like for example, don't post on Kotaku ever.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

The problem is that these groups are more collectivist and have an organized base. People like you and I want to be left alone. We might criticize it or make an article about it. The people who want something for nothing or want to censor something are much more collectivist and love forming groups. It's a pain.

Even the MGTOW types get into a group and just whine.

Look at that last thread I posted about in the Internet Darwin Awards thread. Just stupidity on a whole different level.

[JACK-2]

MGTOW would have been good if they actually were productive as a group i.e. actually getting together to actually do something. What I find with most of the communities is they don't do anything sides emote.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Oct 16, 2015 8:49:15 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

MGTOW would have been good if they actually were productive as a group i.e. actually getting together to actually do something. What I find with most of the communities is they don't do anything sides emote.

Emote and blame others for their personal failures, kind of like the fat feminists do. They have more in common than they think.

[JACK-2]

They're even less constructive. I just don't like wasting my time and these groups suck up your time, but have no pay off.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Oct 16, 2015 9:02:40 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

They're even less constructive. I just don't like wasting my time and these groups suck up your time, but have no pay off.

The feminists definitely get more done, it's just more dumb stuff.

Also check out that video I posted with the slutwalk girls crying. It's hilarious.

[Great Dark Hero]

Here is a another interesting case on why the whole SJW concept is BS. This video pretty much adds insult to injury.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Oct 16, 2015 21:55:11 GMT -5 Great Dark Hero said:

Here is a another interesting case on why the whole SJW concept is BS. This video pretty much adds insult to injury.

The most "caring" and tolerant people (those who claim to be) are really the most uncaring and intolerant around. Just like the socialists who talk about "giving" tend to be losers and penny pinchers. Not surprised at all.