Modern Men are losers.

[JACK-2]

I can speak anecdotally that what he says about men on college campus's is true. Now, I'm not saying that college is a must for men. On the contrary there are much cheaper ways to learn skills without putting yourself into massive debt and nevermind there are better outlets for success like entrepreneurship. But, I notice alot of men are interested only in playing Video Games, eating junk food and jacking off to porn. Now I don't have a problem with 3 of the two since I do all three myself anyway apologetically. But, not exclusively. These guy's it's all they do and I seriously doubt they're starting businesses either. then when you ask what they're deal is they'll put all the blame on feminism. [Ironically, that's what women do with patriarchy stuff.] Alot of MGTOW groups are just filled with loser guys whining and sitting playing Video Games all they.



Over the Memorial Day weekend, many college administrators attended a conference about the absence of men on today's college campuses and expressed concern about the negative experiences and unprecedented challenges facing college men today.

The "2nd Conference on College Men" at the University of Pennsylvania featured sessions examining the implications of negative comments about men that are prevalent on college campuses and the sexist campus activism of participants in the nation's 500 college gender studies departments. The conference program, attended by about 100 professors and student affairs personnel, exposed some unpleasant facts: men are "overrepresented" in drug and alcohol abuse, violations of campus regulations, and acts of violence and sexual assault, and they are "underrepresented" in academic programs and campus leadership activities.

Over the past couple of decades, the male-female ratio on campuses has been changing dramatically. Women outnumber men by a 4-3 ratio on college campuses. Men currently make up only 43 percent of college graduates.

In short, many today acknowledge that there is a crisis of the disappearing educated male.

Some experts claim that the imbalance begins in the public schools, where recess and physical education are being cut. More active boys are at a disadvantage, they say, when there is no outlet for their energy and restlessness. In addition, Title IX programs have hurt men's athletics with the less profitable men's sports being cut (over 400 men's collegiate athletic teams have been cut since Title IX went into effect) in order to fund women's programs. According to the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), "for every new women's athletic slot created between 1992 and 1997, 3.6 male athletes were dropped."

As more and more campuses institute distance education programs, we are learning that men typically are not drawn to such programs and either flunk out or drop out at a higher rate than women. We are also learning that men are told that it is not "cool" to study, make good grades or even to attend class and buy the textbook for a class. For many college males, "being manly" means tremendous external pressure to "not really work at anything; to just be cool and detached." Women, on the other hand, are encouraged to "be the best" and to excel in order to "make it" in the workplace. The end result is a disturbing imbalance in terms of numbers as well as performance of men in the university environment that is already carrying over into the job market where women are increasingly landing the top jobs and earning the big salaries.

According to USA Today, "currently 135 women receive bachelor's degrees for every 100 men." That imbalance, according to figures from the U.S. Department of Education, "is expected to widen in the coming years."

The negative implications are enormous. It will be harder for men to succeed, and the loss of educated men in the workplace will be incalculable. We are already seeing huge social gaps between educated women and the uneducated, immature and/or irresponsible men that constitute the marriage prospects available to them. That gap is showing up in the declining marriage rates as well as in the divorce rates. As Christina Hoff Sommers said in her book, The War Against Boys: How Misguided Feminism is Harming our Young Men, the fact that "women are significantly more literate, significantly more educated than their male counterparts" is likely to create a "lot of social problems;" the lack of well-educated men does not "bode well" for anyone.

Is it any wonder that men are avoiding today's college campuses? Hostility toward men and masculinity begins in daycare and increases each year thereafter. Sexual harassment training and policies have created an uncertain environment, if not a hostile one, where men have to watch their every word and action lest it be misunderstood or misinterpreted. Some experts criticize a campus "worldview that sees things only in terms of oppressors and the oppressed." Typically, the few campus men's studies programs are designed to push an anti-masculinity agenda.

Researchers have put the problem on their agendas. Some feminists are claiming that "educated women have always made some people nervous." Some even claim the gap is a matter of men realizing that they can make a better living than women even without an education.

In an increasingly more technological society, some experts are calling for a male affirmative action plan. Already, savvy campuses increase the number of males by instituting majors attractive to men, instituting or reinstating sports teams that were dropped, and highlighting programs that might attract male students. Almost all campuses feature men in their public relations pictures, being careful to avoid pictures that exclusively feature female students. Some campuses are shortening the period of accepting women's applications, while lengthening the time that applications are accepted from men. Some rumors claim that acceptance standards are lowered for men as well. Still, some experts think that the trend cannot be reversed.

Actually, the solution is much simpler: create an environment starting in kindergarten that teaches children to respect masculine traits. To do otherwise is to discriminate against our sons and brothers.


This is fucking pathetic.

[JACK-2]

Again, I don't wanna sound like the idiots from those infamous: "man up" articles. I don't advocate marriage because it's a scam and I'm critical of colleges as well. I also play alot of Video Games and Porn unapologetically. But, I have to wonder what are these dudes doing for themselves? Are they trying to get paid, get educated, get money, what?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 16, 2015 9:12:18 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Again, I don't wanna sound like the idiots from those infamous: "man up" articles. I don't advocate marriage because it's a scam and I'm critical of colleges as well. I also play alot of Video Games and Porn unapologetically. But, I have to wonder what are these dudes doing for themselves? Are they trying to get paid, get educated, get money, what?

Men in westernized societies have lost their own sense of self. From the black guys doing nothing for themselves to the pushy whipped white men. Much of it is cultural but largely people need to look into the future and think ahead. Make your life better instead of complaining about it. Many of these men also have no strong male role models either and have no direction. This is what you get.

[JACK-2]

They also have a tendency to blame women now for all their problems. While of course it is true to an extent. These guys go waaay to far with it and it's starting to be pathetic. Look at Gamergate? They should have just boycotted the journalist who slept with Zoey Quinn or better yet make your own journalist website. The internet has made starting a business so simple anyways. These guys are losers and I can tell you from experience they'll try to suck you up [no homo] with them. It reminds me of FGC guys who just sit at home all day playing Street Fighter for 100 hours, have no real skills at anything and then brag when they win a few hundred dollars after spending money on Travel and Lodging for some tourney. It's becoming really REALLY noticeable.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 16, 2015 9:32:09 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

They also have a tendency to blame women now for all their problems. While of course it is true to an extent. These guys go waaay to far with it and it's starting to be pathetic. Look at Gamergate? They should have just boycotted the journalist who slept with Zoey Quinn or better yet make your own journalist website. The internet has made starting a business so simple anyways. These guys are losers and I can tell you from experience they'll try to suck you up [no homo] with them. It reminds me of FGC guys who just sit at home all day playing Street Fighter for 100 hours, have no real skills at anything and then brag when they win a few hundred dollars after spending money on Travel and Lodging for some tourney. It's becoming really REALLY noticeable.

It's also like men who sit on Stormfront and Chimpmania sites blaming black men and other groups (but mainly black men) for their problems and how they can't get laid because all women just want black men.

The reality is they're not attractive, have no confidence, have no ambition or prospects, and they don't do anything but sit on the computer all day whining about coalburners and how everybody wants black men. While at the same time claiming they're inferior. Their inability to get white girls or any girls (they love Asians) are a symptom of them being an ineffectual loser.

They're just as bad as the ugly feminists and religious losers. Losers are losers.

[JACK-2]

They blame women for their predicament as well.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 17, 2015 7:31:16 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

They blame women for their predicament as well.

Have you read the people on those sites? They're obsessed. Their blame tends to fall more towards blacks and immigrants though.

[JACK-2]

I mostly check out the MGTOW things versus the racist. MGTOW and MRA types are always blaming women for holding them back. It's like they can't define themselves outside of women.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 17, 2015 7:45:07 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

I mostly check out the MGTOW things versus the racist. MGTOW and MRA types are always blaming women for holding them back. It's like they can't define themselves outside of women.

MGTOW=Women
Feminist=Men
Losers=Rich
Racist=Blacks (mainly)



See the pattern? All just losers of a different style. The groups are just loser magnets because losers like to have a community since they can't think for themselves.

[JACK-2]

Even without the antagonist. Communties like these are for losers. Look at gamers or anime or anything that has a large internet contingency? I find that the internet tends to be a breeding ground for very fringe and crazy groups: conspiracy theorist, gamers, white nationalism,and so forth. Really extreme behavior where as people offline have to behave or they would have to swallow their teeth.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 17, 2015 12:45:48 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Even without the antagonist. Communties like these are for losers. Look at gamers or anime or anything that has a large internet contingency? I find that the internet tends to be a breeding ground for very fringe and crazy groups: conspiracy theorist, gamers, white nationalism,and so forth. Really extreme behavior where as people offline have to behave or they would have to swallow their teeth.

I don't see the difference. In real life you have cults, religious groups, socialist losers, rioters, feminists, etc. I think online you don't have political correctness getting in the way and things like that, but what do most people do with their free time? Non-productive consumption.

How is the person who plays video games any less of a loser than the person who goes to the mall constantly, watches sports constantly because they live vicariously through someone else, follows celebrity gossip, goes to parties constantly, is a fat pig.

There are tons of followers and non producers in America. I think the key is being well rounded. Social skills are useful (which is what I was telling you before) but you have to make sure you're not associating with losers who aren't behind a keyboard.


Those groups are fringe and not the norm online anyways. You can also use the internet for things like checking information and news, looking at stock, nutrition information, etc. It's all about what you do.

[JACK-2]

What I mean is it's alot more apparent who the loaers are online. Because these groups end to be big indicators as to who is.

It's alot less aparent irl who is a loser sometimes unless all the red flags are there.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 17, 2015 14:42:30 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

What I mean is it's alot more apparent who the loaers are online. Because these groups end to be big indicators as to who is.

It's alot less aparent irl who is a loser sometimes unless all the red flags are there.

I think that's because society says that if you aren't out partying all of the time you're a loser, or at bars. People who are introverted are automatically seen as losers.

Yes these fringe groups are clearly losers for obvious reasons just like the obvious losers in real life like people who sit on their ass and collect government money, but what about losers that are accepted as "good".

For instance, look at these people and particularly men who just have to be in a relationship so bad they settle for anything and give up all their freedom. That loneliness and a fear of living your own life is a good sign of a loser.

What about these religious types who don't want to live their own lives? They're popular like government types.

MGTOW's are going to be picked on but some men have a good point about the virtues of staying out of marriage. The problem is the movement got popular and was overrun by incels (involuntary celibates).

[JACK-2]

Well, most movements if not all will devolve into nonsense. When playing fighting games competitively became the fighting game community it beame crap. When men advocating marriage avoidance became mgtow they became crap. When learning how to seduce women became the pua community it went to crap. These days even people who identify as introverts have community that are obnoxious. I can understand a club and group activity. But, when people group together because they are x. We get bad behavior.


Yeah, society does label people losers for doing certain things. But too many times people involved in those activities are losers. But, you could say that about any mundane thing. Look at yhe above and how good topics turn sour once people start forming groups and identity around these things. Body bulding is good imo, right? But, go to a bodybuilding forum and it's shit. Rinse and repeat.

I thought that if people were more active offline they would be less retarded. But. When you look at the fgc.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 17, 2015 17:01:23 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Well, most movements if not all will devolve into nonsense. When playing fighting games competitively became the fighting game community it beame crap. When men advocating marriage avoidance became mgtow they became crap. When learning how to seduce women became the pua community it went to crap. These days even people who identify as introverts have community that are obnoxious. I can understand a club and group activity. But, when people group together because they are x. We get bad behavior.


Yeah, society does label people losers for doing certain things. But too many times people involved in those activities are losers. But, you could say that about any mundane thing. Look at yhe above and how good topics turn sour once people start forming groups and identity around these things. Body bulding is good imo, right? But, go to a bodybuilding forum and it's shit. Rinse and repeat.

I thought that if people were more active offline they would be less rrttded.

Well I agree with you to an extent. When you have groups this is what you get.

Being active offline doesn't mean you won't be stupid. People can be stupid offline and also have more dangerous results when they vote or cater to politicians.


Women wanted equality and now look where that's gotten us.

Losers are resentful of the productive and look where we're at.

Black people want special rights and look where we're at now.

Employees want special treatment over employers and look where that leads.

Religious people want to convert others and look where that leads.

It's not an "online" thing. People are just dumber in large groups than they are in smaller groups. It's just a fact of life which is why you don't want them voting. You want them under a leader who has a brain and isn't trying to buy votes. For instance a competent employer can make use of the average person by organizing their skills better.

It's not being online or offline it's how you use your time. The internet has more information and resources than have ever been available at the palm of their hand. People are as stupid as they want to be.

Just like the guy said, instead of learning how to run a vending machine business, they'd rather hack a vending machine. People want the easy way out and they want to blame others. This was going on long before the internet.

Better to have them be stupid online than to affect people like me by voting for stupid crap.

[JACK-2]

I didn't get to finish before my phone messed up. I said before, I thougt people would be less stupid offline. But, then again look at the fgc. So, clearly that is not the case.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 17, 2015 17:38:30 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

I didn't get to finish before my phone messed up. I said before, I thougt people would be less stupid offline. But, then again look at the fgc. So, clearly that is not the case.

All the online does is let some people get away with saying things they can't say, at the same time they aren't affecting anything. Let them spill their stupidity online instead of doing it in real life.

[JACK-2]

Yeah, but then again you have offline morons like fgc which act that same on or off line.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 18, 2015 1:59:59 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Yeah, but then again you have offline morons like fgc which act that same on or off line.

Well a moron is a moron. Why does being on or offline change that? A smart and ambitious person would be the same on or offline too.

Also fighting and stealing (like in the FGC) is far worse than just being an idiot behind a computer.

Also only a very small % of people who post online are playing offline. Most don't have the interest, desire to improve their skills, and 99% of people don't go to a "scene". Outside of Socal most are abysmally small. I think that stuff mostly happens at tournaments rather than play sessions.

A few people gathering to play some games together probably isn't so bad. I'm not seeing where being online or offline matters if you're just stupid. How does an internet make you stupid?

Also outside of very old people, I'd say not having a computer or being computer illiterate is a big sign of a loser. I mean what sort of person outside of a loser doesn't have access to a computer or internet in this day and age? If I go to my home town in a place like Mississippi or Michigan you'll see people who hardly go online. They're very poor, in and out of jail, on welfare, illiterate, etc. They're even bigger losers than guys online who can't get laid. Computers have some barrier of entry. Look at the imbeciles who don't play games on PC because it's "too hard".

The internet is a tool like anything else. I'd rather people have a site and post this:

chimpmania.com/forum/forum.php

Than be out causing riots. I'd say the internet is useful in that case. Modern men being pussywhipped fools happens online and offline. We have guys like *cough* misterLC *cough* who thinks like many of these guys. His personality doesn't vanish because he isn't online.

[JACK-2]

It changes it because it can be expressed differently. There's a certain inhibition that people who are anonymous have when behave badly. Bad behavior obviously exsit offline. But, lot of people come off as obnxious because being socially inept has far less consequences. Social settings are bad more times then not online vs offline. The risk isn't the same. If I act like dick irl I can eat a fist if I cross the wrong person.

This is in regards to discussions. Of course, if there's a choice between real life violence and online trolls. The later is prefered. But, I find discussions online are riddled with really in your face dickery. I also respond better offline as well. With that said, the internet is a tool andI generally prefer to use it for shopping and gaming vs socializing.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Well that's because you need to find like minded people. You can't compare large groups of people goofing off or extreme groups to just talking to a person one on one in real life. You can find stupidity online but you can also find people who have similar interests online. It can be hard to find like minded people locally. They may not attack you verbally but they might not have the same interests. Most people just want to consume and not be productive offline as well.

You said you didn't like to socialize off of the internet. How much socializing do you do? You seem more introverted.

Sept 18, 2015 7:33:17 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

It changes it because it can be expressed differently. There's a certain inhibition that people who are anonymous have when behave badly. Bad behavior obviously exsit offline. But, lot of people come off as obnxious because being socially inept has far less consequences. Social settings are bad more times then not online vs offline. The risk isn't the same. If I act like dick irl I can eat a fist if I cross the wrong person.

Again I agree with that part. Obviously you wouldn't see these stormfront/chimpout people in real life and most of these people have no balls.

That doesn't mean they're more stupid or more of a loser.

The tradeoff is they say stupid stuff on youtube vs causing problems in real life. Would you rather these morons form religious groups or be out voting? By the way I might add these people DO say and do things differently in large numbers.

One of these losers wouldn't say anything by themselves but if you got enough of them together at a gathering they would change.



Do you think one of these losers would have done that alone? People get more courage and become more stupid in large groups. That's how riots start.

What about Occupy Wall Street or these dumb feminist movements?



People are dumb in large numbers. People on Chimpout are going to have a hard time searching for their kind off of the internet because it's a difficult topic to just bring up randomly.


Let them be stupid online where they're anonymous and worthless, these websites are doing us a hidden favor.

[JACK-2]

Just for clarification: You're saying you rather have them online because they do less damage than irl? If so, I agree. I just hate how they monopolize discussions so easily online.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 18, 2015 7:49:36 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Just for clarification: You're saying you rather have them online because they do less damage than irl? If so, I agree. I just hate how they monopolize discussions so easily online.

I mean I'm not really understanding what you're saying.

The internet gives you far more flexibility with whom you talk to. If you avoid large websites and extreme groups you'll be fine. That time can be spent with like minded people or doing something more productive online. I mean you don't *have* to be on twitter or eventhubs. They aren't they only sites.


The issue is that these places are catered to the majority. People who are stupid and weak minded tend to be dependent and easy to manipulate. That's why they like groups. SRK and eventhubs are shitty not because they're online, but because they have a lot of people posting there. More people = more idiots.

I find this to be the issue offline. A one on one discussion with a person offline is great. If you get into a group of people the intelligence tends to drop down to the dummies. I never liked going out in groups and people are often insecure and afraid of doing things alone or with groups. People tend to cause more trouble and do things they would never do alone. Even with a person who isn't as smart it's easy to get to their mind when they are alone than with a group.

Look at how guys have a harder time approaching girls in groups vs alone. I mean if you go to the club or a church or a bar you're going to find the same thing offline that you do online just with more physical results. Most people just want to consume and do random stuff.

Large groups always cater to the least common denominator because people with a brain know how the masses are and avoid them. MGTOW was a much better site until the admin let anybody in, and that's when the losers and Marxists showed up. Before then it was a great place for like minded people to discuss a hobby.

[JACK-2]

I guess that's where we might have an issue. I've only found 2 sites where the discussions were great. I think maybe my prefrence rises out of the fact that it's easier for me to do one on one discussions versus online.

[JACK-2]

Well that's because you need to find like minded people. You can't compare large groups of people goofing off or extreme groups to just talking to a person one on one in real life. You can find stupidity online but you can also find people who have similar interests online. It can be hard to find like minded people locally. They may not attack you verbally but they might not have the same interests. Most people just want to consume and not be productive offline as well.

You said you didn't like to socialize off of the internet. How much socializing do you do? You seem more introverted.

Alot more than before. Back in 07-12 I was always online. I never found much discussion groups outside this place. Any community and what not always devolved into nonsense. I've been everywhere too.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Yea, it feels like I've been to many places, but there are always lesser known places like mine.

I mean a lot more from none at all doesn't mean a ton. I can go from spending 150% of my income to spending 100% of my income. It's a lot less but I'm still quite a bit.

Are you going to groups? Hooking up with girls? Going to Church? Do you meet people in college?

Sept 18, 2015 8:04:15 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

I guess that's where we might have an issue. I've only found 2 sites where the discussions were great. I think maybe my prefrence rises out of the fact that it's easier for me to do one on one discussions versus online.

How often are you socializing in real life though? Do you really go out and socailize a whole lot? Especially in large groups? I find that talking about anything of intelligence/substance/ or creativity is a waste of time with 90% or more of the population. We all know politics, religion, and such are annoying subjects for most. Not only that but how many people are you finding that are really productive or innovative?? Talented, intelligent, and industrious people are the minority for sure. Most people are consumers and followers. You don't strike me as a social person in your day to day life based on what you told me and when I asked you so you've been spared of this.  Personally I have friends that are successful or business owners in day to day life, but I know they aren't the majority.  They're quite uncommon.  

The internet is a vast tool that can be used for good or bad things no different than a gun. I mean you could use facebook to talk to a smart person if you manage to find one. There are TONS of sites out there though. I find doing online stuff exhausting eventually and I spend enough time on my own site. I'd love to get it to where it can fully go on without me being here, but not huge with tons of dummies. Just posters who interact more with other posters instead of me doing 90% of the posting. It can be a lot of work.

In fighting game sites, the smaller sites have better discussions as the base is often smarter and not as diehard. You'll see much more idiocy on Smash Bros and Capcom websites than on a Virtua Fighter site.

Same thing with TV, movies, and games. Look how many things were ruined when they became popular. Look at SF4, catering things to the least denominator is what causes that.

Look at Peter Schiff. He had a great radio show but the audience wasn't large enough to justify him doing it. Tom Leykis and Howard Stern make TONS of money by talking about things like large boobs and getting laid, plus pop culture stuff because it's just more popular. It caters to a larger and dumber base and makes money.

If I was making money on a website I'd cater it to a large base too. The quality would diminish, but if I'm generating wealth off of it I don't care.

McDonalds is the most successful restaurant franchise and it serves crap food.

That's just the way it is.  I mean if you're just saying "hi, how are you doing" and engaging in small talk then it doesn't matter.  Deep conversations, not so much.  I find people everywhere online that are cool, even on larger sites.  When I find someone with a brain I just keep in contact with them.  I met you  and Darkstorm on KMC,  Galan007 is on there as well.

You just have to wade through the crap first.

[JACK-2]

Yeah, I don't socialize to much offline. so, I don't really know how it is offline too much. On-line...I have alot of experience and I know from that experience that unless you're talking to someone specific for the most part it's garbage. I guess RL is the sameway, I just never knew. Because my discussions tend to be super small. Most people are ignorant this is true and it makes discussions difficult.

I guess socializing in general is a pain.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 18, 2015 8:39:03 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Yeah, I don't socialize to much offline. so, I don't really know how it is offline too much. On-line...I have alot of experience and I know from that experience that unless you're talking to someone specific for the most part it's garbage. I guess RL is the sameway, I just never knew. Because my discussions tend to be super small. Most people are ignorant this is true and it makes discussions difficult.

I guess socializing in general is a pain.

Like I said before, don't discount good social skills. It's important to have and a almost necessary skill at some point if you want to go far. You know what they say "C students rule the world and A students are employees". People who think out of the box and can sell and communicate effectively will go farther than a "smart" person who can't communicate well. There are also different types of socializing as well. Talking to girls isn't the same thing as having a deep discussion about how to run a company.


I mean don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. I'm only saying to get the most mileage out of the internet and in real life you really have to hang around like minded people. If you're a person with talent/smarts/creativity this will take a while, but it's worth it in the long run.

When I was in school I knew everybody. Jocks, cheerleaders, hot people, nerdy people, etc. I can talk to everyone because I've done a lot of things. Sometimes hanging around "cool" people can be fun for certain activities or if you want to go where hot girls go. Most nerdy people tend to be socially awkward and can get obsessive, as you've seen online. They can be good for certain things.

In my own personal life outside of the internet I don't hang around the "life losers" ("cool" people who have nothing going for themselves) or social losers. For instance my brother is one of the people who was social and "cool" but does nothing with his life. I've had many "nerdy" friends in real life I don't associate with because they have no ambition. They just want to play games all day.

My point is both people are losers, but society often only says the nerd is a loser and that the "cool" person isn't.

It's best to hang around like minded people but it takes a while. I mean if you're in great shape do you want to hang out with fat people who sit around all day and whine about being fat. Look at MisterLC. The reason I stopped dealing with him (although I hadn't even talked to him in a while) was because I knew he was poison.

Then you have people who get resentful or do things like follow the "life script" (kids, house, marriage, college, etc.) and they hate that I have freedom. That's most people there.

Outside of me talking to a cashier or advertising, I don't have many detailed conversations with most people because I know it's a waste of time. I'll say hello and engage in small talk but that's it. Believe me who you associate with is important, but you have to make sure it's with the right people. It took me years to find the right people and the problem with people who have success is that they're always busy. Heh.

[JACK-2]

Thank you. That was a really good response.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Glad to help.
One thing people do irl is gossip. That's why I keep my business to myself.