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Post by Marcus4600 on Dec 7, 2006 15:28:14 GMT -5
Unfortunately. Though it would be fun to see. I don't wanna get on the topic of Hudlin though. Guy gives Chicago a bad name.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 7, 2006 20:20:14 GMT -5
How does he do that?
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Post by Dreampanther on Dec 8, 2006 7:03:05 GMT -5
Ha ha. Here is what I posted about this on a somewhat similar thread on KMC: I actually like this whole new coming back from the dead thing. It makes a lot more sense having him die and come back than to have him survive what he's been surviving lately. Now Wolverine can go back to doing what he does best Getting into fights, kicking ass and getting his ass kicked, and then coming back for more. I like it. This means Wolverine have just officially become the Marvel punching back, because now anybody can kill him any time they feel like it, and they don't have to worry about feeling bad, because to him it's all in a day's work. Nice. Do I sound like I hate Wolverine? I don't. I just think lately he's become so overrated that he wasn't interesting anymore. For the same reason I stopped reading Superman - if you can shrug off a nuclear explosion and walk away from it like nothing happened - well then where's the excitement, the drama, the nail-biting suspense? But this seems to me a more acceptable explanation. It also means he can be used in cool ways now. Remember that scene in Highlander II where Sean Connery and Christopher Lambert got riddled with bullets? And then they woke up in the morgue and it was like the whole Trojan Horse thing? See, Wolverine is perfect for those kind of scenarios. Cap proved that it's not very difficult to deal with Wolverine. In fact, it's easier with him than with superheroes you have to worry about killing! Just toss a grenade in his direction, wait for the explosion, then walk up and put Logan's body in cuffs and ta-da! One captured mutant bad boy. So I'm with the most rabid of Wolverine fanboys here: Bring on the immortality! I fact, I feel a little sorry for him, because every writer is gonna wanna see in how many new and interesting ways poor old Logan can be killed... ;D PS: In fact, I might even start reading Wolverine on a regular basis again! I used to love reading Wolverine, but lately I lost my taste for it... but now I'm suddenly all excited again! Yee ha!
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 8, 2006 9:27:36 GMT -5
Ha ha. Here is what I posted about this on a somewhat similar thread on KMC: I actually like this whole new coming back from the dead thing. It makes a lot more sense having him die and come back than to have him survive what he's been surviving lately. Now Wolverine can go back to doing what he does best Getting into fights, kicking ass and getting his ass kicked, and then coming back for more. I like it. This means Wolverine have just officially become the Marvel punching back, because now anybody can kill him any time they feel like it, and they don't have to worry about feeling bad, because to him it's all in a day's work. Nice. Do I sound like I hate Wolverine? I don't. I just think lately he's become so overrated that he wasn't interesting anymore. For the same reason I stopped reading Superman - if you can shrug off a nuclear explosion and walk away from it like nothing happened - well then where's the excitement, the drama, the nail-biting suspense? But this seems to me a more acceptable explanation. It also means he can be used in cool ways now. Remember that scene in Highlander II where Sean Connery and Christopher Lambert got riddled with bullets? And then they woke up in the morgue and it was like the whole Trojan Horse thing? See, Wolverine is perfect for those kind of scenarios. Cap proved that it's not very difficult to deal with Wolverine. In fact, it's easier with him than with superheroes you have to worry about killing! Just toss a grenade in his direction, wait for the explosion, then walk up and put Logan's body in cuffs and ta-da! One captured mutant bad boy. So I'm with the most rabid of Wolverine fanboys here: Bring on the immortality! I fact, I feel a little sorry for him, because every writer is gonna wanna see in how many new and interesting ways poor old Logan can be killed... ;D PS: In fact, I might even start reading Wolverine on a regular basis again! I used to love reading Wolverine, but lately I lost my taste for it... but now I'm suddenly all excited again! Yee ha! If that makes his writing more believable-I'm all for it, if it just makes him get worse, then I'm not. People thought he would change in Civil War and he didn't. We'll just have to wait and see, if Wolverine is written more down to earth I wouldn't have a problem with it.
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Post by alfheim on Dec 8, 2006 10:44:44 GMT -5
Cosmic Wolverine, I could see it now. Cap is described at the pinnacle of human abilities. I don't see him directly described as superhuman though he can do superhuman things. In all fairness Cap is not superhuman...I am taking the piss a bit. To be accurate Cap is enhanced human and its not just his endurance. Even Ed Brubaker apparently said on a forum that Cap is not Batman with a shield he is more. I have to hunt down the forum and get the quote. Its just that sometimes enhanced and superhuman can be the samething when people are being sloppy with their definitons.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 8, 2006 11:01:33 GMT -5
Cosmic Wolverine, I could see it now. Cap is described at the pinnacle of human abilities. I don't see him directly described as superhuman though he can do superhuman things. In all fairness Cap is not superhuman...I am taking the piss a bit. To be accurate Cap is enhanced human and its not just his endurance. Even Ed Brubaker apparently said on a forum that Cap is not Batman with a shield he is more. I have to hunt down the forum and get the quote. Its just that sometimes enhanced and superhuman can be the samething when people are being sloppy with their definitons. It's no problem, at least you are honest and aren't going around and lying like those other fans there that I'm not impressed with lately. They never end.
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Post by exitar on Dec 31, 2006 21:24:49 GMT -5
latest issue proves it. I was right and I am happy about it lol logan is #1
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Post by complexbrother on Jun 5, 2007 15:41:37 GMT -5
Wolverine is not immortal and in issue 48 it was stated that what was said was hyperbole . he can die, it's just that he's hard to kill.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jun 5, 2007 16:52:49 GMT -5
Wolverine is not immortal and in issue 48 it was stated that what was said was hyperbole . he can die, it's just that he's hard to kill. How long ago was this, I want to see the buzz it's going to cause at KMC most likely.
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Post by Magic attack on Jun 5, 2007 17:55:04 GMT -5
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jun 5, 2007 21:46:09 GMT -5
I have a feeling this is going to be vague, but let me see... Yes he can die, but Capt seemed to explain it, (with some pressure), how I just read it so I'll have to say I agree for now.
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Post by Magic attack on Oct 10, 2007 16:36:33 GMT -5
Well, you can close this thread now.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Oct 10, 2007 19:20:08 GMT -5
Well, you can close this thread now. What's wrong?
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Post by Magic attack on Oct 11, 2007 21:14:30 GMT -5
Logan is dead.
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Post by kuwabara on Oct 11, 2007 22:20:56 GMT -5
issue 58 explains the rest
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Oct 11, 2007 23:02:03 GMT -5
Logan is dead. Man, I was just at the bookstore yesterday, now I'll have to wait until next week.
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Post by Magic attack on Oct 15, 2007 17:51:11 GMT -5
issue 58 explains the rest I don't mind that they are going to bring Wolverine back from the dead. I want to see how they do it, I just hope that they don't use something lame like saying "You had the ability to come back all along Wolverine. All you have to do is click your heels together and say 'There's no place like home'." I don't like Dr. Strange picking and choosing whom he helps come back from beyond.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Oct 15, 2007 18:44:39 GMT -5
issue 58 explains the rest I don't mind that they are going to bring Wolverine back from the dead. I want to see how they do it, I just hope that they don't use something lame like saying "You had the ability to come back all along Wolverine. All you have to do is click your heels together and say 'There's no place like home'." I don't like Dr. Strange picking and choosing whom he helps come back from beyond. Mainly that is what it comes down to, suspension of disbelief. Strange doing things like that makes his powers look more and more like a plot device. Which is what Magic is anyways.
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Post by Magic attack on Jan 27, 2008 14:35:04 GMT -5
I don't mind that they are going to bring Wolverine back from the dead. I want to see how they do it, I just hope that they don't use something lame like saying "You had the ability to come back all along Wolverine. All you have to do is click your heels together and say 'There's no place like home'." I don't like Dr. Strange picking and choosing whom he helps come back from beyond. Mainly that is what it comes down to, suspension of disbelief. Strange doing things like that makes his powers look more and more like a plot device. Which is what Magic is anyways. I am a plot device aren't I?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 27, 2008 17:53:14 GMT -5
Mainly that is what it comes down to, suspension of disbelief. Strange doing things like that makes his powers look more and more like a plot device. Which is what Magic is anyways. I am a plot device aren't I? You are quite the plot device.
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Post by JACK-2 on Dec 21, 2008 9:09:06 GMT -5
When did wolverine become a Highlander?
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Post by Magic attack on Dec 21, 2008 21:47:58 GMT -5
Marvel has made it that he always has been one.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 22, 2008 9:40:48 GMT -5
When did wolverine become a Highlander? He has been for a while before they officially stated it anyways.
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Post by JACK-2 on Dec 22, 2008 15:05:31 GMT -5
This why he's lost all his appeal, the fact that they just retconned that in is laughable. I understand he was long lived, but straight up immortal? Dammit Quesada is stupid.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 22, 2008 16:29:25 GMT -5
This why he's lost all his appeal, the fact that they just retconned that in is laughable. I understand he was long lived, but straight up immortal? Dammit Quesada is stupid. And the fanboys just eat it up.
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Post by JACK-2 on Dec 22, 2008 21:30:02 GMT -5
Fanboys eat up anything the company dumps out. Their fanatic devotion to their obsession makes them hard to deal with and they pretty much ruin everything.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 23, 2008 2:24:51 GMT -5
Fanboys eat up anything the company dumps out. Their fanatic devotion to their obsession makes them hard to deal with and they pretty much ruin everything. It's bad when the people who make the comics hate it, but they do it for the money from the fanboys.
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Post by JACK-2 on Dec 23, 2008 14:39:19 GMT -5
I honestly feel that many writers use comics to boost their Egos and chances to end up writing in Hollywood. They don't really care about comics, they just couldn't make it in Hollywood and need an outlet to push their failed scripts while thinking they are too good for comics. Gimmie Liefeld anyday over these arrogant A-holes.
Fanboys are unfortunately most of what is left after the comic crash in the mid 90's. Man people really hated the 90's when it comes to comics. Alot of the Liefeld hate and overzealous 90's hate on the internet is just a bit over the top. I know 90's comics were way to too edgy, over the top, and Extreme for it's own good. Horribly proportioned characters, scantly clad bad girls with super thin waist and boobs bigger than their head, lots of Guns and pouches, and extremely edgy names like: Blood strike or Kill-joy. . . But as bad as it seem [Really wasn't that bad other than over printing of comics and variant covers if you are a collector] it sure beats the hell out of this: Elitist, Pseudo- Intellectual, and Super facial depth that marvel has now. This is the only forum I've been to where talking about comics doesn't lead over-zealous and pseudo-intellectual mutterings on the writers. Most people who read comics that I've ran too if they aren't crazy Fanboys they are Elitist snobs who hate the creators that they buy comics from. As bad as the 90's was when it came to comics, it was much more laid back than now a days.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 24, 2008 19:57:15 GMT -5
I honestly feel that many writers use comics to boost their Egos and chances to end up writing in Hollywood. They don't really care about comics, they just couldn't make it in Hollywood and need an outlet to push their failed scripts while thinking they are too good for comics. Gimmie Liefeld anyday over these arrogant A-holes. Fanboys are unfortunately most of what is left after the comic crash in the mid 90's. Man people really hated the 90's when it comes to comics. Alot of the Liefeld hate and overzealous 90's hate on the internet is just a bit over the top. I know 90's comics were way to too edgy, over the top, and Extreme for it's own good. Horribly proportioned characters, scantly clad bad girls with super thin waist and boobs bigger than their head, lots of Guns and pouches, and extremely edgy names like: Blood strike or Kill-joy. . . But as bad as it seem [Really wasn't that bad other than over printing of comics and variant covers if you are a collector] it sure beats the hell out of this: Elitist, Pseudo- Intellectual, and Super facial depth that marvel has now. This is the only forum I've been to where talking about comics doesn't lead over-zealous and pseudo-intellectual mutterings on the writers. Most people who read comics that I've ran too if they aren't crazy Fanboys they are Elitist snobs who hate the creators that they buy comics from. As bad as the 90's was when it came to comics, it was much more laid back than now a days. That is a good point, a lot of the comic writers aren't true fans of comics, they just do what they do for the check, but the fanboys make it as if they are the only word in writing.
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Post by JACK-2 on Dec 24, 2008 22:37:25 GMT -5
Agreed, it seems now a days alot of writers are just Hollywood rejects who hate the industry and push their agenda's through comics. As cheesy as the 90's were it was still about the comics, even if the fads were over the top.
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