who's most powerful being in marvel

[complexbrother]

I belive pre retcon Beyonder was the all around most powerful being in Marvel's history .

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complexbrother said:

I belive pre retcon Beyonder was the all around most powerful being in Marvel's history .

Aside from TOAA right?

[Magic attack]

I wonder how the bearer of the Heart of the Universe would fair against the pre-retcon Beyonder.

But we will never know, now that Marvel has tarnished Beyonder even further this month.

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shakezula said:

I wonder how the bearer of the Heart of the Universe would fair against the pre-retcon Beyonder.

But we will never know, now that Marvel has tarnished Beyonder even further this month.

What did he do now? Lose to Squirrel Girl?

[Magic attack]

No worse. Now they explain that Beyonder is an Inhuman.

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shakezula said:

No worse. Now they explain that Beyonder is an Inhuman.

Damn, that's a far fall.

[EsteemedLeader©]

complexbrother said:

Holy shit it's Donny Osmond!

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esteemedleader said:

complexbrother said:

Holy shit it's Donny Osmond!

It is true that he looks like a rip of someone...

A white guy in a white suit... #violin#

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admin said:

shakezula said:

They list TOAA as being above LT in the handbook.

What I mean is the continuous argument (particularly on KMC), that he has no panel feats, therefore he doesn't exist. Kinda inane now that I think of it, I wish I could find a pic of him.

TOAA is supposed to be Stan Lee and God is Jack Kirby. It's basically a direct refrence to the writer and artist of marvel and not an actual comic book character.

As for who is the strongest, I vote "Infinite Being". His death gave birth to the marvel unniverse and his powers manifest themselves through the Infinite Gems (Which have a ton of on-panel feats). But, if he's not applicable then I vote for "The Beyonders"

-The Azure Dragon of Gales[/I]

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thebluedragongales said:

admin said:

What I mean is the continuous argument (particularly on KMC), that he has no panel feats, therefore he doesn't exist. Kinda inane now that I think of it, I wish I could find a pic of him.

TOAA is supposed to be Stan Lee and God is Jack Kirby. It's basically a direct refrence to the writer and artist of marvel and not an actual comic book character.

As for who is the strongest, I vote "Infinite Being". His death gave birth to the marvel unniverse and his powers manifest themselves through the Infinite Gems (Which have a ton of on-panel feats). But, if he's not applicable then I vote for "The Beyonders"

-The Azure Dragon of Gales

[/I][/quote]It's still being debated at KMC and other places because some say TOAA is god and some say he isn't.

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admin said:

It's still being debated at KMC and other places because some say TOAA is god and some say he isn't.

I agree, there is a lot of confusion it seems on the subject.

thebluedragongales said:

TOAA is supposed to be Stan Lee and God is Jack Kirby. It's basically a direct refrence to the writer and artist of marvel and not an actual comic book character.

If that is true, that TOAA represents Stan Lee and God is Jack Kirby, then they are comic book characters. They have both been drawn in comics throughout the years. The Fantastic Four met Jack Kirby in FF#511.

thebluedragongales said:

As for who is the strongest, I vote "Infinite Being". His death gave birth to the marvel unniverse and his powers manifest themselves through the Infinite Gems (Which have a ton of on-panel feats).

The Infinite Being is a decent choice. I wish that more was known of it. All that is known is what Thanos told us in Thanos Quest, and Diana from the Marvel/Ultraforce crossover.

Marvel doesn't even acknowledge Ultraverse anymore, so I doubt they will ever use Nemesis again. A shame too.

thebluedragongales said:

But, if he's not applicable then I vote for "The Beyonders"

Beyonders are another decent choice. Although the Beyonder from Secret Wars is sort of in the air, now being an Inhuman and all.

While the Beyonders have quite a few high showings, a rather low showing for the Beyonders is Maker. Maker had her mind shut down by Thanos. Maker also appeared to have died at the destruction of the Kyln.

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shakezula said:

admin said:

It's still being debated at KMC and other places because some say TOAA is god and some say he isn't.

I agree, there is a lot of confusion it seems on the subject.





If that is true, that TOAA represents Stan Lee and God is Jack Kirby, then they are comic book characters. They have both been drawn in comics throughout the years. The Fantastic Four met Jack Kirby in FF#511.





The Infinite Being is a decent choice. I wish that more was known of it. All that is known is what Thanos told us in Thanos Quest, and Diana from the Marvel/Ultraforce crossover.

Marvel doesn't even acknowledge Ultraverse anymore, so I doubt they will ever use Nemesis again. A shame too.

thebluedragongales said:

But, if he's not applicable then I vote for "The Beyonders"

Beyonders are another decent choice. Although the Beyonder from Secret Wars is sort of in the air, now being an Inhuman and all.

While the Beyonders have quite a few high showings, a rather low showing for the Beyonders is Maker. Maker had her mind shut down by Thanos. Maker also appeared to have died at the destruction of the Kyln.

Interesting information, though I must say if there weren't any differing opinion about sources and other things, there would be no debate.

[Magic attack]

Agreed. Most of comics keep things vague, so that people can formulate their own opinions on what has happened, what should happen and what might happen in the future.

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shakezula said:

Agreed. Most of comics keep things vague, so that people can formulate their own opinions on what has happened, what should happen and what might happen in the future.

Not a bad idea in itself, it's good to let people think.

[The Slayer]

The HULK is the strongest being there is!!! hahahaha j/k ;D Though really, I'd say Beyonder or Thanos. Though what does any think about Galactus?

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slayer said:

The HULK is the strongest being there is!!! hahahaha j/k ;D Though really, I'd say Beyonder or Thanos. Though what does any think about Galactus?

There are a few above him, like Phoenix and LT.

[The Slayer]

Hmm... I thought Phoenix was around the same level as Beyonder or Thanos. I didn't think Galactus was that high either but I know he's pretty damn powerful. So would Living Tribunal and Phoenix be considered the strongest of all?

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slayer said:

Hmm... I thought Phoenix was around the same level as Beyonder or Thanos. I didn't think Galactus was that high either but I know he's pretty damn powerful. So would Living Tribunal and Phoenix be considered the strongest of all?

I believe Phoneix to be a bit over him,(at least that was the conclusion that was going around at the time of KMC), but you could be right, I'm not sure if Galactus could directly beat the Phoenix, but he plays a crucial role in the universe, I'm not sure it would be good that he was beaten either.

[The Slayer]

Back at KMC they made her look like a God. Probably even higher. It's confusing with all the crap you hear people saying about her power level. It throws you off to the point where you don't know whose stronger.

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slayer said:

Back at KMC they made her look like a God. Probably even higher. It's confusing with all the crap you hear people saying about her power level. It throws you off to the point where you don't know whose stronger.

Yea, that was mostly GS's work.

[The Slayer]

Haha It makes sense now. That guy was obsessed with Phoenix. He exalted her name. haha

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slayer said:

Haha It makes sense now. That guy was obsessed with Phoenix. He exalted her name. haha

Remember the GS and whirly love sessions they had on the threads?

[The Slayer]

Haha Oh yeah I remember that. Whatever happened to whirly? He was cool, I liked talking to him. He was something special I'll say.

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slayer said:

Haha Oh yeah I remember that. Whatever happened to whirly? He was cool, I liked talking to him. He was something special I'll say.

He's been banned about a million times and makes tons of socks. Sometimes he takes breaks though.

[Magic attack]

The X-Men writers like to over-glorify the Phoenix.

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shakezula said:

The X-Men writers like to over-glorify the Phoenix.

And Wolverine.

[violent2dope]

Currently, Living Tribunal. The most powerful to ever have his face in comics however would be Pre-Retcon Beyonder.

[jackred]

Onslaught is the most powerful he actually killed 12 of the superheroes including Bruce Banner half of The Hulk and he's power is so great not even Apocalypso can stop him.

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And I was just about to bring up the TOAA argument.

[jackred]

If i remembered correctly Onslaught is.