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Post by JACK-2 on Dec 8, 2015 10:24:59 GMT -5
You gotta make a new thread on this. I want these idiot SJW's who go around saying that this is all "make believe" to look like we're a bunch of conspiracy theorists. To see that they're lying. It has gotten that bad. Japanese wasn't a bad idea. I like learning new stuff but it might be best to avoid censored games and whatnot for the time being. Glad I have lots of creative and productive activites to engage in. I can have fun, make money, and not be censored. I always disliked relying on localization because it was so restricting. It started getting worst 5 years ago and after a while I decided that the only way out was to learn Japanese. I like having options. Japanese just don't want to deal with Western hypocrisy anymore. Neither do I tbh.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 8, 2015 10:31:35 GMT -5
I don't blame you. Localization was always annoying for several reasons. Makes me think of SoR3 censorship.
It's funny because the USA is the largest producer of pornography on the planet but we're such prudes about stuff like this and we have Tumblr, Twitter, and Facebook with tons of girls who are scantily clad or nude. Music videos and movies/television have scantily clad stars and we say nothing, but an ass slap from a game character is too much.
Some say Japan is full of "pervs" but censor the vagina which is weird to them, but our SJW crusade has gotten silly. Be sure to link this whenever some clown denies it. God forbid you discuss anything with them in the first place though.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 8, 2015 10:37:46 GMT -5
Be sure to link this whenever some clown denies it. God forbid you discuss anything with them in the first place though. You can't discuss with them because they just block you if you use logic. Pretty much, hence why it's best to just mock them here. Tired of repeating myself to idiots.
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Post by JACK-2 on Dec 8, 2015 13:02:05 GMT -5
I'm gonna make a simple japanese translation for game terms soon. It will help for people playing japanese games. As for japanese being perverts here's what a Japanese person has to say on the matter. Are a lot of Japanese men perverted? If so, why?
Makiko Itoh Makiko Itoh 24.5k Views • Makiko has 20+ answers in Japanese Ethnicity and People. Makiko has 10 endorsements in Japan. The thing is, in recent years the "weird Japan" "wacky Japan" theme has been an extremely easy, and lazy, hook for the media to hang their Japan related stories on. Since most of the Western mainstream media has decided that Japan is no longer that relevant as a major economic power/rival to the United States (role taken over by China in Asia, let's slot that in in our neat little hierarchy) most Japan stories focus on the weird/wacky and 'cool' stuff. There are also some resident expats in Japan who profit, literally or figuratively, by continuing to promote the idea that Japan is just a wacky, perverted place - even if much of the behavior that is supposed to be widely practised is just a fringe thing.
I believe that the truth is that Japanese people are no more or less perverted than people anywhere else. There is less, or rather different, censorship applied to literature and media in Japan - it is not a country bound by Judeo-Christian-Muslim mores and morality. One thing that a lot of westerners have a problem with is that nudity of any kind is not the total, absolute, gasp-worthy taboo it seems to be in some societies in the west. (I've seen people complain about the bath scene in the movie My Neighbor Totoro where the father takes a bath with his two daughters. He's not a pedophile, that's a common and much approved 'family thing' to do in Japan.)
There are censorship and morality laws in Japan, but you just don't hear about them. (Ironically, in Japan western pornography has been seen as being much more explicit than Japanese pornography, because genitalia is typically shown a lot more clearly - though not being a porn consumer I don't know if that still holds true.) Young children are rarely if ever exposed to pornographic images and such. In any case, for the most part crime of all kinds, including sex crimes, are a lot lower in Japan than most other 'advanced' countries - that's probably an important fact. And public lewd behavior is just different from say, such behavior in the US. In the US a group of men might make rude gestures and comments at an attractive woman, or even get grabbed at and felt up in a bar or something. In Japan she might get groped in a crowded place. (But again, it's not like every other Japanese man is a pervert, just as the vast majority of American men aren't either.)
I do feel rather sorry for Japanese men - they are so often pigeonholed as 'perverts', nerds, socially inept, or weaklings. Japanese men are as varied as people anywhere else, reallywww.quora.com/Are-a-lot-of-Japanese-men-perverted-If-so-why
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Post by Nyu Nozomi Hyuga on Dec 8, 2015 16:46:41 GMT -5
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 8, 2015 16:51:11 GMT -5
I'm guessing they're releasing it on PC since they won't have those troubles they have in the West? If they are putting it on Steam, at least there's an option. I'm gonna make a simple japanese translation for game terms soon. It will help for people playing japanese games. As for japanese being perverts here's what a Japanese person has to say on the matter. Are a lot of Japanese men perverted? If so, why?
Makiko Itoh Makiko Itoh 24.5k Views • Makiko has 20+ answers in Japanese Ethnicity and People. Makiko has 10 endorsements in Japan. The thing is, in recent years the "weird Japan" "wacky Japan" theme has been an extremely easy, and lazy, hook for the media to hang their Japan related stories on. Since most of the Western mainstream media has decided that Japan is no longer that relevant as a major economic power/rival to the United States (role taken over by China in Asia, let's slot that in in our neat little hierarchy) most Japan stories focus on the weird/wacky and 'cool' stuff. There are also some resident expats in Japan who profit, literally or figuratively, by continuing to promote the idea that Japan is just a wacky, perverted place - even if much of the behavior that is supposed to be widely practised is just a fringe thing.
I believe that the truth is that Japanese people are no more or less perverted than people anywhere else. There is less, or rather different, censorship applied to literature and media in Japan - it is not a country bound by Judeo-Christian-Muslim mores and morality. One thing that a lot of westerners have a problem with is that nudity of any kind is not the total, absolute, gasp-worthy taboo it seems to be in some societies in the west. (I've seen people complain about the bath scene in the movie My Neighbor Totoro where the father takes a bath with his two daughters. He's not a pedophile, that's a common and much approved 'family thing' to do in Japan.)
There are censorship and morality laws in Japan, but you just don't hear about them. (Ironically, in Japan western pornography has been seen as being much more explicit than Japanese pornography, because genitalia is typically shown a lot more clearly - though not being a porn consumer I don't know if that still holds true.) Young children are rarely if ever exposed to pornographic images and such. In any case, for the most part crime of all kinds, including sex crimes, are a lot lower in Japan than most other 'advanced' countries - that's probably an important fact. And public lewd behavior is just different from say, such behavior in the US. In the US a group of men might make rude gestures and comments at an attractive woman, or even get grabbed at and felt up in a bar or something. In Japan she might get groped in a crowded place. (But again, it's not like every other Japanese man is a pervert, just as the vast majority of American men aren't either.)
I do feel rather sorry for Japanese men - they are so often pigeonholed as 'perverts', nerds, socially inept, or weaklings. Japanese men are as varied as people anywhere else, reallywww.quora.com/Are-a-lot-of-Japanese-men-perverted-If-so-whyI never understood why liking sex is perverted but violence is ok.
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Post by Nyu Nozomi Hyuga on Dec 8, 2015 18:59:23 GMT -5
I'm guessing they're releasing it on PC since they won't have those troubles they have in the West? If they are putting it on Steam, at least there's an option. I'm gonna make a simple japanese translation for game terms soon. It will help for people playing japanese games. As for japanese being perverts here's what a Japanese person has to say on the matter. Are a lot of Japanese men perverted? If so, why?
Makiko Itoh Makiko Itoh 24.5k Views • Makiko has 20+ answers in Japanese Ethnicity and People. Makiko has 10 endorsements in Japan. The thing is, in recent years the "weird Japan" "wacky Japan" theme has been an extremely easy, and lazy, hook for the media to hang their Japan related stories on. Since most of the Western mainstream media has decided that Japan is no longer that relevant as a major economic power/rival to the United States (role taken over by China in Asia, let's slot that in in our neat little hierarchy) most Japan stories focus on the weird/wacky and 'cool' stuff. There are also some resident expats in Japan who profit, literally or figuratively, by continuing to promote the idea that Japan is just a wacky, perverted place - even if much of the behavior that is supposed to be widely practised is just a fringe thing.
I believe that the truth is that Japanese people are no more or less perverted than people anywhere else. There is less, or rather different, censorship applied to literature and media in Japan - it is not a country bound by Judeo-Christian-Muslim mores and morality. One thing that a lot of westerners have a problem with is that nudity of any kind is not the total, absolute, gasp-worthy taboo it seems to be in some societies in the west. (I've seen people complain about the bath scene in the movie My Neighbor Totoro where the father takes a bath with his two daughters. He's not a pedophile, that's a common and much approved 'family thing' to do in Japan.)
There are censorship and morality laws in Japan, but you just don't hear about them. (Ironically, in Japan western pornography has been seen as being much more explicit than Japanese pornography, because genitalia is typically shown a lot more clearly - though not being a porn consumer I don't know if that still holds true.) Young children are rarely if ever exposed to pornographic images and such. In any case, for the most part crime of all kinds, including sex crimes, are a lot lower in Japan than most other 'advanced' countries - that's probably an important fact. And public lewd behavior is just different from say, such behavior in the US. In the US a group of men might make rude gestures and comments at an attractive woman, or even get grabbed at and felt up in a bar or something. In Japan she might get groped in a crowded place. (But again, it's not like every other Japanese man is a pervert, just as the vast majority of American men aren't either.)
I do feel rather sorry for Japanese men - they are so often pigeonholed as 'perverts', nerds, socially inept, or weaklings. Japanese men are as varied as people anywhere else, reallywww.quora.com/Are-a-lot-of-Japanese-men-perverted-If-so-whyI never understood why liking sex is perverted but violence is ok.
It would be amazing if they can ever include something that would've been impossible due to the Western Standards, if you were to consider on why Monster Monpiece was censored which was said in Siliconera: "This was a very difficult decision since we work very hard to satisfy our fans and want to bring the same content being offered in Japan. However, Western society is not as lenient as that of Japan when sexual images are involved—especially images of humanoids that appear to be younger than a socially acceptable age."
These were the cards that was removed for both US & Euro release which I recommend checking Google Images for this one by typing Monster Monpiece & look at first row at the 4th picture which features the girls that were removed.
If they can reinclude the original cards that were removed in the Steam releases for the West (despite what happen before, and they were a problem with the UK), My reaction would look something like this:
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 8, 2015 19:03:10 GMT -5
That's the big deal? I don't see the problem considering you have games like Witcher which had nude cards of women.
Then you have that HuniePop or whatever it is. I haven't heard much about this game though, is it considered a "mature" game?
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Post by Nyu Nozomi Hyuga on Dec 8, 2015 19:15:49 GMT -5
That's the big deal? I don't see the problem considering you have games like Witcher which had nude cards of women. Then you have that HuniePop or whatever it is. I haven't heard much about this game though, is it considered a "mature" game?
Did Witcher have characters that look like a child in similar situations that Monster Monpiece (along many others games that were censored or never came in Japan)? I recommend checking out the picture in Google Images which I posted directions on My previous post which I had to edit since just showing the link wasn't working (because I was bit uncertain if it was ok to show the picture I would normally do).
Monster Monpiece is indeed a Mature rated game in Japan & US is 17+ while the Euro is a 12+.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 8, 2015 19:17:10 GMT -5
That's the big deal? I don't see the problem considering you have games like Witcher which had nude cards of women. Then you have that HuniePop or whatever it is. I haven't heard much about this game though, is it considered a "mature" game?
Did Witcher have characters that look like a child in similar situations that Monster Monpiece (along many others games that were censored or never came in Japan)? I recommend checking out the picture in Google Images which I posted directions on My previous post which I had to edit since just showing the link wasn't working (because I was bit uncertain if it was ok to show the picture I would normally do).
Monster Monpiece is indeed a Mature rated game in Japan & US is 17+ while the Euro is a 12+.
So the issue was the "sexualizing children" angle? Japanese anime characters look young, and they like youth there. In reality men are attracted to good looking young females, but they're just more up front about it. Makes no sense really.
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Post by Nyu Nozomi Hyuga on Dec 8, 2015 19:27:33 GMT -5
Did Witcher have characters that look like a child in similar situations that Monster Monpiece (along many others games that were censored or never came in Japan)? I recommend checking out the picture in Google Images which I posted directions on My previous post which I had to edit since just showing the link wasn't working (because I was bit uncertain if it was ok to show the picture I would normally do).
Monster Monpiece is indeed a Mature rated game in Japan & US is 17+ while the Euro is a 12+.
So the issue was the "sexualizing children" angle? Japanese anime characters look young, and they like youth there. In reality men are attracted to good looking young females, but they're just more up front about it. Makes no sense really.
While that is true anime/manga/Japanese games have characters that look young, but part of the problem is the rest of the world (some countries are very strict) on how do they feel about characters like this which of course resulting in censorships or bans. If these kind of characters & sexuality can get the same rights like violent video games receive around 2010 (if I recall correctly) when there was voting for violent videogames to have freedom of speech, then it there should be no problems on having to make edits or winds up banned.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 8, 2015 19:47:56 GMT -5
So the issue was the "sexualizing children" angle? Japanese anime characters look young, and they like youth there. In reality men are attracted to good looking young females, but they're just more up front about it. Makes no sense really.
While that is true anime/manga/Japanese games have characters that look young, but part of the problem is the rest of the world (some countries are very strict) on how do they feel about characters like this which of course resulting in censorships or bans. If these kind of characters & sexuality can get the same rights like violent video games receive around 2010 (if I recall correctly) when there was voting for violent videogames to have freedom of speech, then it there should be no problems on having to make edits or winds up banned.
Oh I agree. Why are fantasy girls a problem even after they make the age "18" in the US, but going on a killing spree ok? Double standard.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 9, 2015 18:49:23 GMT -5
Definitely worth a shot, the more people that speak up the better.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 10, 2015 14:07:28 GMT -5
Basically like Marxists they use shaming language and re-engineer reality while denying everything and using force.
Authoritarian retards, basically.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 14, 2015 6:48:36 GMT -5
Excellent, let's see how it unfolds.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 14, 2015 7:24:11 GMT -5
Excellent, let's see how it unfolds. Personally I think it's a bit early to be doing interviews, he wanted 50,000 users before he made contact with Japanese developers but he is only over 4,000 right now. True and all, but you could at least get some perspective on the matter.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 4, 2016 11:59:31 GMT -5
That's really stupid. She doesn't look like a sensual character in the least. I've seen more revealing outfits in day to day life.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 4, 2016 12:32:16 GMT -5
It seems these fools are out to ruin the fun of others. I suggest a PC version plus nude mod and youtube vids to rub salt in their wounds.
This outfit is no big deal. It's just modern political correctness run amok.
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Post by Great Dark Hero on Jan 4, 2016 12:37:34 GMT -5
... I wanna see that stage
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 4, 2016 12:41:23 GMT -5
I sometimes do game vids and matches with nude mods. I'll likely do it this time around too just for fun. Hadn't heard of the Samus stage though. I'm going to look that up.
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SJW war.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 6, 2016 12:01:34 GMT -5
In America there's this children's cartoon with a Massve SJW audience, in the UK it has been censored. Cartoon Network UK decided to remove the gay characters and scenes. Obviously as you expect SJW's are going crazy and losing their shit, meanwhile Anti-SJW are dropping hilarious bombs on them. Obviously they shouldn't of censored it seeing as the content isn't anything objectionable and I hate censorship but I'm going to sit back and enjoy SJW's get a taste of their own medicine. People need a taste of their own medicine. They should do that here.
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Post by Great Dark Hero on Jan 19, 2016 17:44:54 GMT -5
Just going to leave this here. This is about the issue of feminism but the video is a bit long. So... grab some aspirin, some popcorn, and a drink.
*Sagat CVS2 Laugh* ... *Then elevates to Iori Yagami's laugh*
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 19, 2016 18:24:53 GMT -5
Long one. I'll watch it later.
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