Why Is Waiting Until You Can Afford Kids A Taboo Subject?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Controversial topic time. It needs to be said. How hard is this to understand? If you can't afford kids, wait until you are in a better station in life so you can provide them with a good life and not be a drain on society.


Is this religious? Feel good? Political correctness?

What?

[WarMachineRhodey]

Jan 18, 2016 16:59:07 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Controversial topic time. It needs to be said. How hard is this to understand? If you can't afford kids, wait until you are in a better station in life so you can provide them with a good life and not be a drain on society.


Is this religious? Feel good? Political correctness?

What?

I always say to people who ask me that "Can't feed em won't breed em". Tbh I can't think of a time someone challenged me on it so I never had to explain past what I said in quotations.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jan 18, 2016 21:43:33 GMT -5 WarMachineRhodey said:

Jan 18, 2016 16:59:07 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Controversial topic time. It needs to be said. How hard is this to understand? If you can't afford kids, wait until you are in a better station in life so you can provide them with a good life and not be a drain on society.


Is this religious? Feel good? Political correctness?

What?

I always say to people who ask me that "Can't feed em won't breed em". Tbh I can't think of a time someone challenged me on it so I never had to explain past what I said in quotations.

You can't beat logic and common sense. If only it were more common. This just makes no sense. Not logically, not economically, not "morally", not biologically. If an animal in the wild tried to have more kids than they could provide for, the kids would die. It's not right to you, kids, or society. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard and yet I see poor and stupid people constantly breeding. Socialists love this because they buy votes and socialists buy poverty. So it is a two in one. If people were more individualistic and planned we wouldn't have people voting to steal from us or relying on "God will take are of it" this is what makes it so disgusting.

Stuff like this really annoys me.

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7103510

It's the kind of crap morons like to spout. That the government will fix everything and people can't help it. Keep in mind you don't have to even be RICH to have kids, just enough to sustain yourself and have money put away for emergencies and the future. Yet you have retards on there acting like doing well in life is just "luck". Typical loser mentality I had to hear growing up. According to them, you can't build wealth until you win the lottery or become a star.

Just HOPE for a miracle or God to take care of it. Just dumb. These Popes and other religious figures go to third world countries and tell the extremely poor to have kids. How is this responsible?

Then there's this:

www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/11/pope-francis-the-choice-to-not-have-children-is-selfish

Then the idea that not having kids is selfish? Cranking out smaller versions of yourself is selfless?

[WarMachineRhodey]

The pope said not having kids is selfish. How can you be selfish to something that doesn't exist? People still take the pope seriously after that statement?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jan 19, 2016 2:30:34 GMT -5 WarMachineRhodey said:

The pope said not having kids is selfish. How can you be selfish to something that doesn't exist? People still take the pope seriously after that statement?

Yes, because they're stupid and socialist.

When you have a kid you bring a person into the world who didn't ask to be there who will have to go through pain and suffering until they die. Having a kid is pure selfishness. Kids use up valuable resources.

Why do people have kids?

1. To fulfill themselves.
2. To keep a man around.
3. To get welfare money.
4. To have a person take care of them when they get old.
5. Thinking it will fix their own problems and make their own worthless lives better.
6. It's an ego trip "We're so good looking, let's see how good looking our kids will be." or "My kid will be the next superstar."

Why didn't they adopt? It's because they wanted to fulfill their own selfishness.

[Great Dark Hero]

Career, self-development, education, and gaining more knowledge are subjects that should come first. Kids is an important matter that needs to be taken in consideration... AFTER... you manage to establish all of those things for yourself. If a person is to have children, then it would be wise to wait until you build yourself an image (hopefully a positive one).
Another thing to consider is that there are far too many risks that apply to having a kid (less so, if you are adopting a child but still risky nevertheless). There is nothing wrong with having a female companion and treating her well (... especially if she is attractive. Just being honest). But, in the Western parts of this very Earth, there are a lot of screwy regulations that relate to marraige and divorces. Both men and women are guilty of abusing these regulations for some completely ulterior motive. Men? Gaining access to something their female companion has without a care in the world or just abusing them altogether. Some stupid shit like that. Women? There are a shit load of things that females can do to screw up a man's life. I've spoke about this numerous times with C-Master and a few others in this forum. An extremely pragmatic... and ill-willed woman can take advantage of a marraige, having a child and then get a divorce, essentially setting the man up for failure. What follows after the divorce is the woman may end up keeping the children... and earning quite a bit of the male individuals paycheck. Not only that, but some woman may plan for something like this over a long period of time. So trustworthiness is another issue. Women are foolish like that and it has been proven many times. Men can also be guilty because of their own stupidity or uneducated approach (C-Master would be more than happy to provide proof of this: Look at the betas. Look at the individuals who lack any resolve for progression. Actually, scratch all of that. Just go to Eventscrubs! Just go there! That's all of the proof you need right there! Making progress (even if it is gradual) is some that people should advocate and support. People in the LCD are foolish and regressive. This is a the truth and they give individuals like us a very bad name. Women (calling out Western women speifically) are guilty for arguably the same reasons: Laziness, sloppiness, willful ignorance (which is just another way of saying "stupid"), and so much more. Just no redeeming qualities whatsoever. And, want to know what is worse about these groups? This wierd ass men and... these trashy ass women? They breed and then they enforce their own ignorance onto the children that they have, thus slowly driving society further and further down into the gutter. They give the more intellitual or particularly good-willed men and women a bad name! People like us in this forum are becoming dinosaurs and are just the subject of ridicule from these very idiots. Some of these idiots are trying to run this world as we speak! For more proof, take a look at what is happening with Western video game releases. Ridiculous censorship nonsense. Matter of fact, fighting games (yes, it seems ridiculous that I continue to use fighting games as a reference but it is easy to allude this subject from that perspective when one looks at them from a certain context). Fighting games. The very thing you guys cannot stand the most is the fact that your favorite characters are getting nerfs, many of which are complete unnecessary or just so... arbituary.
These idiots believe that waiting to have kids is foolish. These idiots believe that such and such is "OP."
For example, Ryu's Sweep into Hadouken. People (particularly 09er's) actually think that Ryu's Sweep into Hadouken is "OP" is and "absolutely wrong." It needs to be "normalized..." and "nerfed." Why? Sweep and whiff cancel into Hadouken is a good thing and (better) players would already understand how to deal with over the course of the match. Why nerf it? Why would you nerf R. Mika's... erm... EX Shooting Peach to not have invincibility on start up? Why would you nerf Kazuya's EWGF and make it unsafe on block? You CANNOT do that. If something is bad, make it good. If something is good, try to make it better (with reasonable decision-making, of course).
Waiting to have children is a good idea in the long. This is the equivalent of doing a "safe jump set-up"... in life. And, these idiotic groups or complaining about our... "safe jumps." If these people fail in the long run, then it is not our fault. It is not the players fault. If a person is successful or is trying to be successful, then we cannot let any of these creeps impede our progress with their "religion", "tradition" or whatever foolish perception they have. Fuck these guys. And, their belief system. These are the people where if their belief system crumbles around them, they would not know the first thing to do.

Yes. I acknowledge people are not perfect but "thriving" on this imperfection is what "I"... consider taboo. Being "content" with where they are now. No progression. Just "status-quo". A no hoper. That is, the lowest common denominator. You know, the very people that Capcom is trying their very best to appeal to, even while knowing that it does not work in the long run. And, these are the same people that will go as far as to say that "waiting to have children is wrong." Fuck these guys. It's like a scrub complaining about me using throws and lows on Tekken or DOA. No. I am not going to limit myself and just "have" kids because... "reasons" or "yolo." That is not my thought processing. That is not my MO. And, it is not up to anyone to dictate that approach onto other people.

I do not care about the concepts of religion or foolish traditions that stem from it. I will not care about the feelings of the LCD or overly religious groups over this subject because there is no point in even fooling myself. Success, professional partnerships, and progression are elements that matter to me the most. Having kids at the age I am now is just too risky with all of those factors I spoke about earlier.
Saying that I cannot wait to have kids at a later time in my life is like saying that I cannot play a certain way in a fighting game. If I want to zone around all day and if it wins me the match then so be it. When I play a fighting game, I am taking a logical (and at the same time a preferrably ethical) approach to fighting games. What ever is written in the games code and programming... I will utilize. Whatever the TO's want (that is, from TO's whom are completely embedded in the FGC and have great knowledge of fighting games and no scrubby mentality)... I will abide by the rules. This applies to local scenes and/or majors. This alludes to my approach in real life. Making progress (or at least trying to make progress).

TDLR;

Having babies at a young age without a any real plan, establishment, or resolve towards progression is stupid.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Eventually you just have to bring up natural selection. Our society today rewards the dumbest, ugliest, fattest, and poorest of individuals to continually breed and bring society down the drain. Look at all of these countries going broke and who these morons vote in. Even our country has like 1/2 of the population not working and living off of the other. More and more people are ignorant and in debt. Naturally this would never happen as they would die off. If a person had no kids and was a loser it would end with that individual. When these morons breed they bring new people in the mix who have to suffer and then make all of us suffer.

It only takes a second to see. The richest areas have people who are more intelligent and more attractive on average by far. I grew up dirt poor and when I go home to Mississippi I don't see babes and brilliant people there. You have some exceptions but the vast majority leave when they want to go further in life. Nothing but people having kids, at a young age. Kids having kids and it's the poorest country in the nation.

Of course the dumber and poorer a person is the more they tend to believe in others to take care of them, like God and the government. These institutions love this because they get more brainwashed followers and voters.

Just automated harvesting of the dumb.

Harsh but it's true.

[JACK-2]

Jan 18, 2016 16:59:07 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Controversial topic time. It needs to be said. How hard is this to understand? If you can't afford kids, wait until you are in a better station in life so you can provide them with a good life and not be a drain on society.


Is this religious? Feel good? Political correctness?

What?

Isn't that assuming people have kids deliberately and not by accident because they couldn't keep their legs closed and then try to justify it?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Jan 19, 2016 18:14:16 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Jan 18, 2016 16:59:07 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Controversial topic time. It needs to be said. How hard is this to understand? If you can't afford kids, wait until you are in a better station in life so you can provide them with a good life and not be a drain on society.


Is this religious? Feel good? Political correctness?

What?

Isn't that assuming people have kids deliberately and not by accident because they couldn't keep their legs closed and then try to justify it?

They can't have a kid by "accident". A woman has complete control over whether or not a kid is born, the 1600's is over. Now the man doesn't have such a right and that is unfortunate and is part of the problem. If the man had a say he'd just say no and the woman wouldn't have the kid because she wouldn't get a free ride. That's why these out of wedlock childbirths exploded with government programs and laws like child support.

Isn't it funny these accidents happen to the same people? The dumb and the poor? How come middle class and especially wealthy people aren't cranking them out?. They aren't virgins.

I don't have any kids yet my siblings have 3-4 kids and they're around my age. There's no mistake.

In many cases these people have no hope in life and don't think they'll do any better so they throw their life away and don't take control. They just say things like, "God will take care of it" or "It'll work itself out" as if they had no choice in the matter.

These are losers who see nothing but other losers doing the same thing and they emulate it. When you see nothing else and that's what your parents did, you tend to copy.

I do have some cousins who left Mississippi and none of them have any kids. No coincidence.

[JACK-2]

Jan 19, 2016 18:22:44 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

They can't have a kid by "accident". A woman has complete control over whether or not a kid is born, the 1600's is over. Now the man doesn't have such a right and that is unfortunate and is part of the problem. If the man had a say he'd just say no and the woman wouldn't have the kid because she wouldn't get a free ride. That's why these out of wedlock childbirths exploded with government programs and laws like child support.

Isn't it funny these accidents happen to the same people? The dumb and the poor? How come middle class and especially wealthy people aren't cranking them out? They aren't virgins.

I don't have any kids yet my siblings have 3-4 kids and they're around my age. There's no mistake.

In many cases these people have no hope in life and don't think they'll do any better so they throw their life away and don't take control. They just say things like, "God will take care of it" or "It'll work itself out" as if they had no choice in the matter.

These are losers who see nothing but other losers doing the same thing and they emulate it. When you see nothing else and that's what your parents did, you tend to copy.

I do have some cousins who left Mississippi and none of them have any kids. No coincidence.

That's gotta be your GOAT post, well said.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

I remember Mister saying, "When we were young we had to sneak and watch naked girls. The reason that people are having all of these kids is because it's too accessible to see naked girls because of the internet." which is ridiculous.

First off people who are poor and wealthy people watch television and see naked girls online, so why is it just the poor and dumb having these kids? I grew up in those times where you had to watch naked girls on tv when your parents weren't around so why don't I have all of these kids? If anything the technological advances give men a substitute to going out and knocking up women anyways. Keep in mind he had his kids when he was young and couldn't afford them. That whole argument doesn't make sense when there are plenty of men who can't get girls watching porn.

[misterlc]

C-master you stated in another thread that you where born extremely poor. Could you elaborate on that a bit because if that is the case your stance is a little confusing.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Why would my stance be confusing? I grew up around it and I see how it's harmful and I have family members who do it.

I think this is as straightforward as it gets. Do you think having kids you can't afford is intelligent and responsible behavior?

[misterlc]

It was confusing because I thought you meant that as a child you grew up in poor circumstances yourself, not just around them. Thanks for clarifying. You saw other people dealing with impoverished conditions, but you were not in that situation, correct?

As for my take on this topic, people like fucking and when an unplanned pregnancy happens many people are reluctant to kill the unborn child.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Yes. I was born into them. I was around it because I was in it.

Almost everybody likes having sex. Humans are hardwired to do it. People can have sex without having kids. It's no coincidence that there's a certain demographic of people (poor, dumb, or unmotivated) who pop out kids constantly because it's rewarded by society. I also find it odd they have morals when it comes to abortion but not to fornication. They should wait until they're married if that's the case. There's really no excuse with modern birth control methods.

If you cut out benefit programs and other laws that reward women for doing this the out of wedlock birth would drop precipitously and a woman could no longer trap a man. Countries where they don't do this don't have this problem. We didn't have the problem until we started rewarding it. I also find people like this don't care and don't look into the future since they feel life just happens and the shouldn't bother. In many cases this is what your community does which encourages it.

It's insane when people who work have to struggle to pay for a family while people who don't work can be paid to have kids and never work again for generations. It needs to end. Seeing how this country is going we will have to sooner than later as we're broke.

[misterlc]

Yeah I agree with you on this. The system is set up to reward women for popping out babies that they can't support and cripple the fathers of these children at the same time. The sad thing is that the children suffer because many times they are just pawns, used as an easy check and if you were to go and check up on these children you would find that they are living in deplorable conditions and being treated worse than pets are allowed to be treated. They are cursed at and told how much of a burden they are which is demoralizing and the money that is supposed to be used for their best interest is flitted away on superficial nonsense. Income tax season arrives and a new car is purchased though the payments for it cannot be sustained.

The root of this problem is likely a poverty mentality mixed with pervasive ignorance. The most disgusting thing of all is that while workers like you and I see a problem, somebody powerful is promoting this pattern and making a large profit off of the ignorance and suffering.

Slightly off topic though I miss talking to you on the phone. I suck at typing and most of the things we're discussing seem to be just you and me anyway. I'm going to send you my number at the old spot cause I don't know how to do it here. Holla fam!

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Mar 13, 2016 17:51:13 GMT -5 misterlc said:

Yeah I agree with you on this. The system is set up to reward women for popping out babies that they can't support and cripple the fathers of these children at the same time. The sad thing is that the children suffer because many times they are just pawns, used as an easy check and if you were to go and check up on these children you would find that they are living in deplorable conditions and being treated worse than pets are allowed to be treated. They are cursed at and told how much of a burden they are which is demoralizing and the money that is supposed to be used for their best interest is flitted away on superficial nonsense. Income tax season arrives and a new car is purchased though the payments for it cannot be sustained.

The root of this problem is likely a poverty mentality mixed with pervasive ignorance. The most disgusting thing of all is that while workers like you and I see a problem, somebody powerful is promoting this pattern and making a large profit off of the ignorance and suffering.

Slightly off topic though I miss talking to you on the phone. I suck at typing and most of the things we're discussing seem to be just you and me anyway. I'm going to send you my number at the old spot cause I don't know how to do it here. Holla fam!

Guys who have less to lose also don't get hit for child support anyways. The guy with a lot of money does but a guy who is in and out of jail or working minimum wage doesn't.

I'm on the phone occasioanlly but it's easier for me to just post here and check up occasionally since otherwise I would be having 1 on 1 conversations with several people and never get anything done because it would just be repeated here and I also like posting other content. People do post in these threads but you bumped up some very old discussions that everybody was finished talking about.

There are a ton of boards and threads here on a ton of topics. Sometimes people want to talk about something different. There are times I want to talk about finances, politics, money, comics, or something else. It just depends on the mood of the person. I talk about everything and I like variety. Try going to some of the other boards and looking at the other subjects like I was telling you before. You can post quick stuff and the discussions are often less stressful than serious topics.

[misterlc]

I know how to leave my number for you here Holla man! We don't have to talk long I know you're busy but I am too. Cmon man give a shout!

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

I'd just private message that if I were you.

[misterlc]

Thanks for cleaning that up for me man but I wanted you to get it without having to go to the old pm. I actually left it on the pm but I figured you were here so
I'd leave it here. You know me man I ain't scared of someone else calling me. As long as you got the number. Just call when you get a chance.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

You know I have private messaging on this website too right? KMC sucks lol.

[misterlc]

True. Well look brother I hope you call me but I got to go. If you want me to weigh in on something up here just tell me about it. Like I said man I've never been a good typist but I do enjoy a good discussion. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here right! Peace out C!

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

You should get a cell phone. It would be much more convenient then as everyone else here has one and texting often works better for me.

[JACK-2]

Why even have kids in the first place? What obligation does anyone have to produce more human beings for the government to tax?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Many do it because they're "supposed" to or that's what they say. They act like they're doing the world a favor or they're "replenishing the earth", when in reality people are often a net drain more often than not because they consume more than they produce. Nobody has kids for the sake of the world. They do it for themselves. Many people want to see a smaller version of them running around for their egos, or they want someone to take care of them when they get old. Many people have no talent or anything going for themselves and they're lives are empty and they want something to fill up the time.

It's all shallow and what's worse they're bringing a person into the world who didn't ask to be here for their own self interested reasons and then call other people who choose not to do it selfish. It's baffling.