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[The Big Daddy C-Master]

shakezula said:

The only instance I can think of when Cyclops "defeated" the other X-men was in Uncanny #175. The X-men are tricked into thinking that Cyclops is Dark Phoenix, and Cyclops leads them into the Danger Room. Cyclops received a few broken ribs early in the battle from Colossus. I will admit that Cyclops is a smart fighter.

His only interaction with Wolverine was Cyclops hitting Wolverine with a few optic blasts. The first was intended for Nightcrawler, but Nightcrawler teleported at the last intant leaving Wolverine in the midst of the blast. The second was Cyclops hitting Wolverine in the head with a blast, from behind though.

Issue number 1 of which series?

While I do admit that Cyclops is a smart fighter, and can defeat Wolverine from a distance. I dont see Cyke winning the majority of random battles.


And as far as the visor goes, all I have found is that he moved the controls down to his hand. This helps quicken his reaction time a bit, but it is still not instantaneous. If he is controlling his eyebeams by mere thought now, an issue number would be appreciated.

He's fought Wolverine more than once. He did fight him in the ultimate series where xavier broke the fight up. He blasted Wolverine through a window, he blasted him in the snow for pissing him off as well.

And expert marksman and an excellent fighter, would beat just an expert fighter.

I'll hunt for the issue number... my comp is fried so I'm restricted to just the comp at the school, so you won't hear from me for another day most likely.

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admin said:

shakezula said:

The only instance I can think of when Cyclops "defeated" the other X-men was in Uncanny #175. The X-men are tricked into thinking that Cyclops is Dark Phoenix, and Cyclops leads them into the Danger Room. Cyclops received a few broken ribs early in the battle from Colossus. I will admit that Cyclops is a smart fighter.

His only interaction with Wolverine was Cyclops hitting Wolverine with a few optic blasts. The first was intended for Nightcrawler, but Nightcrawler teleported at the last intant leaving Wolverine in the midst of the blast. The second was Cyclops hitting Wolverine in the head with a blast, from behind though.

Issue number 1 of which series?

While I do admit that Cyclops is a smart fighter, and can defeat Wolverine from a distance. I dont see Cyke winning the majority of random battles.


And as far as the visor goes, all I have found is that he moved the controls down to his hand. This helps quicken his reaction time a bit, but it is still not instantaneous. If he is controlling his eyebeams by mere thought now, an issue number would be appreciated.

He's fought Wolverine more than once. He did fight him in the ultimate series where xavier broke the fight up. He blasted Wolverine through a window, he blasted him in the snow for pissing him off as well.

And expert marksman and an excellent fighter, would beat just an expert fighter.

Wolverine and Cyclops-

Suppose they both started off in a jungle, and neither of them has been there before. They start off a mile apart, not knowing where the other is, and they have to try and hunt down the other combatant.

You think that is a battle that Cyclops can win the majority?

I'll hunt for the issue number... my comp is fried so I'm restricted to just the comp at the school, so you won't hear from me for another day most likely.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

shakezula said:

admin said:

He's fought Wolverine more than once. He did fight him in the ultimate series where xavier broke the fight up. He blasted Wolverine through a window, he blasted him in the snow for pissing him off as well.

And expert marksman and an excellent fighter, would beat just an expert fighter.

Wolverine and Cyclops-

Suppose they both started off in a jungle, and neither of them has been there before. They start off a mile apart, not knowing where the other is, and they have to try and hunt down the other combatant.

You think that is a battle that Cyclops can win the majority?

I'll hunt for the issue number... my comp is fried so I'm restricted to just the comp at the school, so you won't hear from me for another day most likely.

I agree he'd be in a disadvantage in that setting, but when I think of settings I think of what they are usually around... the thing is Cyke is just a more powerful mutant when he cuts loose.

I'm still searching for that issue, I might be wrong about him not needing that visor now though...

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admin said:

I agree he'd be in a disadvantage in that setting, but when I think of settings I think of what they are usually around...

As do I. Wolverine has been in quite a few jungles over the years, as has Cyke. I just think in more scenarios that Wolverine has more of an advantage than Cyke.

I dont just place Wolverine at a set distance away, and let Cyclops take target practice and chalk it up as a win for Cyclops. I am not implying that you are doing that, just that Wolverine can win in some settings, and I feel more than Cyke can.

the thing is Cyke is just a more powerful mutant when he cuts loose.

I agree, I dont know why they have held him back for so long.

I'm still searching for that issue, I might be wrong about him not needing that visor now though...

I had the sad face because of your computer problems, not that you couldnt find the pic.



How bout this-

How does Cyke fair against any of these people in strictly H2H.

Spider-Man
Cap
Black Panther
Daredevil
Ironfist
Deadpool
Elektra
Gamora
Agent X
Moon Knight (Not A Full Moon)
Spider Woman (Jessica Drew)
Taskmaster

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

shakezula said:

admin said:

I agree he'd be in a disadvantage in that setting, but when I think of settings I think of what they are usually around...

As do I. Wolverine has been in quite a few jungles over the years, as has Cyke. I just think in more scenarios that Wolverine has more of an advantage than Cyke.

I dont just place Wolverine at a set distance away, and let Cyclops take target practice and chalk it up as a win for Cyclops. I am not implying that you are doing that, just that Wolverine can win in some settings, and I feel more than Cyke can.




I agree, I dont know why they have held him back for so long.

I'm still searching for that issue, I might be wrong about him not needing that visor now though...

I had the sad face because of your computer problems, not that you couldnt find the pic.



How bout this-

How does Cyke fair against any of these people in strictly H2H.

Spider-Man
Cap
Black Panther
Daredevil
Ironfist
Deadpool
Elektra
Gamora
Agent X
Moon Knight (Not A Full Moon)
Spider Woman (Jessica Drew)
Taskmaster

Nevermind, he doesn't need it... hail to my new screen~

Spidey would kick his ass, as would pretty much the rest of those. He'd kick non-combatants asses in h2h, but he doesn't rely off of his fightig, he could just fry them for the most part. Esp. with no CIS.

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admin said:

Nevermind, he doesn't need it... hail to my new screen~

Spidey would kick his ass, as would pretty much the rest of those. He'd kick non-combatants asses in h2h, but he doesn't rely off of his fightig, he could just fry them for the most part. Esp. with no CIS.

I agree that, from a distance, Cyke is a formidable opponent. But when the fight is brought hand to hand, he would be at a disadvantage (with no eyebeams) against all of the H2H specialists.



I am not giving a huge win percentage to Wolverine, just the majority.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

shakezula said:

admin said:

Nevermind, he doesn't need it... hail to my new screen~

Spidey would kick his ass, as would pretty much the rest of those. He'd kick non-combatants asses in h2h, but he doesn't rely off of his fightig, he could just fry them for the most part. Esp. with no CIS.

I agree that, from a distance, Cyke is a formidable opponent. But when the fight is brought hand to hand, he would be at a disadvantage (with no eyebeams) against all of the H2H specialists.



I am not giving a huge win percentage to Wolverine, just the majority.

He's still a damned good fighter, he just wouldn't get the majority in h2h, but he doesn't need to. With his abilities he's in another league than them. Logan won't get the majoritty by hitting him by luck (it is confirmed he hasn't used his visor for awhile). I think it's in the Civil War tie ins.

[kuwabara]

I am sorry , but no cyclopes would get stomped in h2h combat by any top tier fighter. He would not win a single match unless by sheer luck.........

Wolverine and cyclopes have only fought onces while wolverine was not min controlled or fucked in the head. Also the time cyclopes blast Logan through the window was a cheap shot and the fight ended after that with wolverine being completely fine.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

kuwabara said:

I am sorry , but no cyclopes would get stomped in h2h combat by any top tier fighter. He would not win a single match unless by sheer luck.........

Wolverine and cyclopes have only fought onces while wolverine was not min controlled or fucked in the head. Also the time cyclopes blast Logan through the window was a cheap shot and the fight ended after that with wolverine being completely fine.

I am not arguing that he could take any of them, but he can fight very well.


He still owns Wolverine going all out as well.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

kuwabara said:

I am sorry , but no cyclopes would get stomped in h2h combat by any top tier fighter. He would not win a single match unless by sheer luck.........

Wolverine and cyclopes have only fought onces while wolverine was not min controlled or fucked in the head. Also the time cyclopes blast Logan through the window was a cheap shot and the fight ended after that with wolverine being completely fine.

I am not arguing that he could take any of them, but he can fight very well.


He still owns Wolverine going all out as well.

He can fight very well, but he still only so good. Kitty is also his superior by quite a bit in h2h skill.

depends if CIS is on and the scenerio.

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Cyclops is so dopey.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

kuwabara said:

admin said:

I am not arguing that he could take any of them, but he can fight very well.


He still owns Wolverine going all out as well.

He can fight very well, but he still only so good. Kitty is also his superior by quite a bit in h2h skill.

depends if CIS is on and the scenerio.

I think that if he and kitty were to fight with no powers, Cyke could do well just because he is quite a bit stronger and whatnot.

Cyke isn't as good as the best, my point was just that he wasn't a pushover in h2h.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

kuwabara said:

He can fight very well, but he still only so good. Kitty is also his superior by quite a bit in h2h skill.

depends if CIS is on and the scenerio.

I think that if he and kitty were to fight with no powers, Cyke could do well just because he is quite a bit stronger and whatnot.

Cyke isn't as good as the best, my point was just that he wasn't a pushover in h2h.

I would agree, but then again kitty strikes would be more powerful she was trained in a jewish style of martial arts that allows her to hit with certain parts of her body so ahrd they damage metal.

[kuwabara]

shakezula said:

Cyclops is so dopey.

true that lol .

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kuwabara said:

admin said:

I think that if he and kitty were to fight with no powers, Cyke could do well just because he is quite a bit stronger and whatnot.

Cyke isn't as good as the best, my point was just that he wasn't a pushover in h2h.

I would agree, but then again kitty strikes would be more powerful she was trained in a jewish style of martial arts that allows her to hit with certain parts of her body so ahrd they damage metal.

WAIT!!!



Kitty Pryde is Jewish?

[kuwabara]

no she was tought a jewish style of fighting by wolverine

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Oh.


That gives me inspiration for a new sig.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

kuwabara said:

admin said:

I think that if he and kitty were to fight with no powers, Cyke could do well just because he is quite a bit stronger and whatnot.

Cyke isn't as good as the best, my point was just that he wasn't a pushover in h2h.

I would agree, but then again kitty strikes would be more powerful she was trained in a jewish style of martial arts that allows her to hit with certain parts of her body so ahrd they damage metal.

I'm sure many characters can hit that hard in the Xleague, but you are right she probably could do that. The only thing is she has to hit a certain way, whereas Cyke doesn't.

[kuwabara]

not really actually most of the moves are quite easy to hit some one with also due to her martial arts prowess she can hit far harder even with simple punches.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

kuwabara said:

not really actually most of the moves are quite easy to hit some one with also due to her martial arts prowess she can hit far harder even with simple punches.

That is true but that technique takes more utilization of skill than a simple punch.

Cyke isn't shabby, he was trained by Logan himself to a degree, particularly to compensate for if he was in a situation where he couldn't see.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

kuwabara said:

not really actually most of the moves are quite easy to hit some one with also due to her martial arts prowess she can hit far harder even with simple punches.

That is true but that technique takes more utilization of skill than a simple punch.

Cyke isn't shabby, he was trained by Logan himself to a degree, particularly to compensate for if he was in a situation where he couldn't see.

true though his training is nothing compared to kitties. Not to mention kitty has more combat knowledge then cyclopes could learn most likly in a lfie time.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

kuwabara said:

admin said:

That is true but that technique takes more utilization of skill than a simple punch.

Cyke isn't shabby, he was trained by Logan himself to a degree, particularly to compensate for if he was in a situation where he couldn't see.

true though his training is nothing compared to kitties. Not to mention kitty has more combat knowledge then cyclopes could learn most likly in a lfie time.

I know she has more fighting skill than Cyke, my point is that he's a good fighter.

He can utilize his abilities that he has far better and is better at combat from a tactical point of view, which is why he leads guys like Wolverine and Pride, he's just less skilled than her in fighting knowledge.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

kuwabara said:

true though his training is nothing compared to kitties. Not to mention kitty has more combat knowledge then cyclopes could learn most likly in a lfie time.

I know she has more fighting skill than Cyke, my point is that he's a good fighter.

He can utilize his abilities that he has far better and is better at combat from a tactical point of view, which is why he leads guys like Wolverine and Pride, he's just less skilled than her in fighting knowledge.

He not better tactically. He a better leader. In one on one combat in h2h fightign kitty would have superior tactics. Wolevrine woudl have vastly superior tactics then either. Also you do know scot has asked wolverine to lead the x-men right? Prof. x also asked wolevrine to co lead the team with scot.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

kuwabara said:

admin said:

I know she has more fighting skill than Cyke, my point is that he's a good fighter.

He can utilize his abilities that he has far better and is better at combat from a tactical point of view, which is why he leads guys like Wolverine and Pride, he's just less skilled than her in fighting knowledge.

He not better tactically. He a better leader. In one on one combat in h2h fightign kitty would have superior tactics. Wolevrine woudl have vastly superior tactics then either. Also you do know scot has asked wolverine to lead the x-men right? Prof. x also asked wolevrine to co lead the team with scot.

Kitty doesn't have better tactics, or else she would lead. She still has many doubts and flaws. Wolverine might have better "tactics" but he doesn't have the right mentality to lead, he's too hotheaded, too brash. Cyclops was reluctant to lead, and that's what makes him a great leader. Xavier said it himself when Cyke doubted himself. Not to mention Logan is a loner.

Cyke has excellent leadership abilities. Logan himself has commented on it.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

kuwabara said:

He not better tactically. He a better leader. In one on one combat in h2h fightign kitty would have superior tactics. Wolevrine woudl have vastly superior tactics then either. Also you do know scot has asked wolverine to lead the x-men right? Prof. x also asked wolevrine to co lead the team with scot.

Kitty doesn't have better tactics, or else she would lead. She still has many doubts and flaws. Wolverine might have better "tactics" but he doesn't have the right mentality to lead, he's too hotheaded, too brash. Cyclops was reluctant to lead, and that's what makes him a great leader. Xavier said it himself when Cyke doubted himself. Not to mention Logan is a loner.

Cyke has excellent leadership abilities. Logan himself has commented on it.

why would she lead if she had a better tactical mind when it came to h2h combat? That does not even make sense lol.

tactical wise Logan is both scot and kitty superior.

actaully scot tends to be hot heaed. Wolverine does go berserker and such, but scot him self is quite hot headed and on more then one occassion out right attacks wolverine and others for little reason.

Logan may be a loner and such, but scot him self thinks logan is an amazing leader. Logan deos nto wish to lead. If logan did he could lead with amazinly effectiveness. He has lead combat teams in 4 wars or more. He has lead alpha flight. He has lead the x-men he even ocne if I am nto mistaken lead the defenders. Logan choices not to lead, but in reality he is an amazing leader.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

why would she lead if she had a better tactical mind when it came to h2h combat? That does not even make sense lol.

Let me rephrase it for you, she's a better h2h combatant, but she doesn't have a better tactical mind.

tactical wise Logan is both scot and kitty superior.

But not in leadership.

actaully scot tends to be hot heaed. Wolverine does go berserker and such, but scot him self is quite hot headed and on more then one occassion out right attacks wolverine and others for little reason.

Logan is more hotheaded than any of them, he's the Raphael to Cyke's Leonardo. Most of the time Cyke is alot more composed and thinks his actions out.

Logan may be a loner and such, but scot him self thinks logan is an amazing leader. Logan deos nto wish to lead. If logan did he could lead with amazinly effectiveness. He has lead combat teams in 4 wars or more. He has lead alpha flight. He has lead the x-men he even ocne if I am nto mistaken lead the defenders. Logan choices not to lead, but in reality he is an amazing leader.

He can lead yes, but he doesn't have the humility and type of care for the Xmen that Cyke has, as he is Xaviers first pupil. He wants to see the Xmen prosper second only to Xavier, though he has had his problems he is still very close to Xavier.

Logan is an anti-hero and more in-between.

[samz]

Hmmm... I've tried this once on KMC, but what the hell.

My fav characters are Spidey, Venom, Wolvie, Deadpool. But too many people like them, so this time i'm gonna go with anime.

Vash the Stampede! Muahaha!

"Can" beat him/her
"Can't" beat him/her

Namor Can (But that'd be a VERY long and hard fight)
Spiderman (Can)
Venom (With prep)
Carnage (With prep)
Taskmaster Can
Elecktra Can
Daredevil Can
Dock Ock Can
Sandman Can
Hydroman Hmmm... angel's arm, so yeah, can
Omega Red Can
Sabretooth Can, but just with Namor, long and hard...
Mr. x who's that?
Cyclops Hard to say, if Cyclops blasts Vash first then no, but concidering Vash's speed... might win
Xavier Yep can
Magneto can't
Nightcrawleer Can
Ryu Can same case as with Namor
Ken same same as with Ryu
Bison Same same as with Ryu
Akuma Probably can't unless uses angels arm
Iron Man Can
Hulk Only with angel's arm, without it, nope...
Shang Chi Can
Karate Kid Don't know him well
Apocalypse Same as with Hulk
Storm Same as with Apoc
Shadowcat Can't
Green Goblin Can
Hobgoblin Duh
Godzilla O.o
Silver Surfer Im not crazy, can't.
Firelord Same as ^ unless Vash goes Spiderman...
Human Torch Only with Angels arm
Dr. Doom Can
Thing Can
Tyrant The same guy who pwned the avengers and oneshotted Hulk?? Can't.
Zarathos don't know him
Dormammu Can't
Dr. Strange Can't
Deathstroke Can
Batman Can
Gambit Can
Deadpool Can
Superman Noone can.
Wonder Woman Angel's arm
Green Arrow Can
Hawkeye ^
Wasp Can
Thor Yikes!
Odin ^
TOAA O.o
Living Tribunal O.o
Galactus O.o
Krypto Hmmm... Supes dog? Yeah i guess...
Supergirl Same as WM
Tombstone Can
Morlun Can
Kraven Can
Invisible Woman Can't
Quicksiver dunno
Scarlet Witch If it's HOM version then can't ofcourse.
Havok Dunno him well
Jean Grey No phoenix then might win
Phoenix ^
Mickey Mouse Hell no, noone can beat Mickey! Unless.. Vash has a cat.
Cable Nope
She Hulk Same as Hulk
Thanos No
Iceman No

[violent2dope]

Your Battle Pope character can beat an Omniversal reality warper?

I have a few favorites, mine are Ganondorf, Pyron, Superman Prime, and Pre-Retcon Beyonder(who would beat all but TOAA). I'll use Ganon.

Namor-Yes
Spiderman-Yes
Venom-Yes
Carnage-Yes
Taskmaster-Yes
Elecktra-Yes
Daredevil-Yes
Dock Ock-Breaks his glasses and stuffs him in locker.
Sandman-Yes
Hydroman-Yes
Omega Red-Yes
Sabretooth-Yes
Mr. x-Who?
Cyclops-Yes
Xavier-Rips his head off and uses his chrome dome to see his future
Magneto-Yes
Nightcrawler-Yes
Ryu-Yes
Ken-Yes
Bison-Beats him in a fight and makes Bison cry by beating him in a bodybuilding contest
Akuma-Yes
Iron Man-Yes
Hulk-Yes
Shang Chi-Yes
Karate Kid-Yes
Apocalypse-Yes
Storm-Yes, and it makes me happy
Shadowcat-Yes
Green Goblin-Yes
Hobgoblin-Yes
Godzilla-Err...mayb, he might be too big for his soul attack to work...
Silver Surfer-No way
Firelord-No
Human Torch-Yes
Dr. Doom-Yes
Thing-Yes
Tyrant-No
Zarathos-Who?
Dormammu-No
Dr. Strange-The one that fought WWH? Hell yes.
Deathstroke-Yes
Batman-Yes
Gambit-Yes
Deadpool-Yes
Superman-no
Wonder Woman-No
Green Arrow-Yes
Hawkeye-Yes
Wasp-Yes
Thor-No
Odin-No
TOAA-No
Living Tribunal-No
Galactus-No
Krypto-no
Supergirl-no
Tombstone-Who?
Morlun-Who?
Kraven-Yes
Invisible Woman-Yes
Magneto-Yes
Quicksiver-Yes, eventually.
Scarlet Witch-Base? Yes, HoM? No friggin way.
Havok-Yes.
Jean Grey-Maybe.
Phoenix-No
Mickey Mouse-Yes
Cable-Normally yes, not God Cable though.
She Hulk-Yes
Thanos-No
Iceman-...Don't know

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

I need to add some stuff to this, I made this back in 05!

[samz]

violent2dope said:

Your Battle Pope character can beat an Omniversal reality warper?

I have a few favorites, mine are Ganondorf, Pyron, Superman Prime, and Pre-Retcon Beyonder(who would beat all but TOAA). I'll use Ganon.

Namor-Yes
Spiderman-Yes
Venom-Yes
Carnage-Yes
Taskmaster-Yes
Elecktra-Yes
Daredevil-Yes
Dock Ock-Breaks his glasses and stuffs him in locker.
Sandman-Yes
Hydroman-Yes
Omega Red-Yes
Sabretooth-Yes
Mr. x-Who?
Cyclops-Yes
Xavier-Rips his head off and uses his chrome dome to see his future
Magneto-Yes
Nightcrawler-Yes
Ryu-Yes
Ken-Yes
Bison-Beats him in a fight and makes Bison cry by beating him in a bodybuilding contest
Akuma-Yes
Iron Man-Yes
Hulk-Yes
Shang Chi-Yes
Karate Kid-Yes
Apocalypse-Yes
Storm-Yes, and it makes me happy
Shadowcat-Yes
Green Goblin-Yes
Hobgoblin-Yes
Godzilla-Err...mayb, he might be too big for his soul attack to work...
Silver Surfer-No way
Firelord-No
Human Torch-Yes
Dr. Doom-Yes
Thing-Yes
Tyrant-No
Zarathos-Who?
Dormammu-No
Dr. Strange-The one that fought WWH? Hell yes.
Deathstroke-Yes
Batman-Yes
Gambit-Yes
Deadpool-Yes
Superman-no
Wonder Woman-No
Green Arrow-Yes
Hawkeye-Yes
Wasp-Yes
Thor-No
Odin-No
TOAA-No
Living Tribunal-No
Galactus-No
Krypto-no
Supergirl-no
Tombstone-Who?
Morlun-Who?
Kraven-Yes
Invisible Woman-Yes
Magneto-Yes
Quicksiver-Yes, eventually.
Scarlet Witch-Base? Yes, HoM? No friggin way.
Havok-Yes.
Jean Grey-Maybe.
Phoenix-No
Mickey Mouse-Yes
Cable-Normally yes, not God Cable though.
She Hulk-Yes
Thanos-No
Iceman-...Don't know

You mean Scarlet witch? To tell the truth I only know her from HOM and i've heard that classic with is WAY less powerful, so I went with that "knowledge", probably understimated her...