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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Oct 18, 2008 4:47:53 GMT -5
Well I'm sure it had less flame.
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Post by Yoshi on Oct 29, 2008 23:18:10 GMT -5
Yeah, but it got closed.
I'm not surprised since it was a stupid thread.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Oct 30, 2008 20:08:08 GMT -5
Yeah, but it got closed. I'm not surprised since it was a stupid thread. We need a good Goku vs Superman thread.
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Post by Yoshi on Oct 30, 2008 23:13:49 GMT -5
A good "Superman vs Goku" thread here or at KMC?
I truly doubt WrathfulDwarf would allow another thread like that at KMC because it'll turn into another flame war. It would be very entertaining, though.
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Post by Joker on Nov 1, 2008 3:32:13 GMT -5
Goku cannot hope to defeat Superman because he does not possess Superman's physical strength or speed. Goku has struggled with 40 ton weights, while Superman is always listed as being able to lift 100+ tons. Superman has gotten from Earth to different planets in less than a second. Goku wouldn't win at all. Anyone who thinks he would should check out Superman's feats. Yes, he's overpowered, but that's all the more reason to believe Goku doesn't stand a chance.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Nov 2, 2008 8:08:19 GMT -5
A good "Superman vs Goku" thread here or at KMC? I truly doubt WrathfulDwarf would allow another thread like that at KMC because it'll turn into another flame war. It would be very entertaining, though. There are just way too many interpretations of the characters, and that leads to feat wars. And in two different universes with those kind of characters, that's disgusting.
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Post by JACK-2 on Nov 10, 2008 9:25:15 GMT -5
That's a good point, because many times the characters powersets become drastically different from themselves within their respective universes.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 11, 2009 15:49:04 GMT -5
Pretty much, nevermind all the arguments about what is valid or not. Or people using canon out of context and confusing it with continuity.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 12, 2009 18:52:30 GMT -5
[There are just way too many interpretations of the characters, and that leads to feat wars. And in two different universes with those kind of characters, that's disgusting. Pretty much, nevermind all the arguments about what is valid or not: Like when ever DBZ fans try to use feats most of them end up being from fillers. Supes fans say they aren't canon because they aren't from the creator. Yet, Supes has 100's of different writers which writer him horribly inconsistent and his creator sold his rights way back. Thing is Toei [people who make Dbz anime] own some of the rights to DBZ as well I think. So, it goes back to people using canon out of context. Shortly put, this is a basic fanboy war.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 14, 2009 7:02:31 GMT -5
It seems all debates are, nobody is really fair when it comes to debating.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 14, 2009 8:25:22 GMT -5
It seems all debates are, nobody is really fair when it comes to debating. Meh, only the ones that have top notch guys going at it. Nobody is 100% unbiased in every aspect of life, but some things people are even in if they don't care about either much or care about them evenly. I try to be as unbiased as possible. It doesn't bother me if a character I like loses, makes them more real to me. I might argue certain situations from a different standpoint here and then depending on stipulations (like Spiderman going all out vs 3 peak humans) but nothing extreme. There's nothing to learn from that. If a thread were Jubilee vs Robin or something, it wouldn't be bad. Throw in top guys like Batman vs Wolverine, or Cap vs Wolverine and the fanboys come out and play.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 14, 2009 12:15:49 GMT -5
I just mean't that sometimes characters are weakened because they are unpopular as opposed to being popular in fandom. Goku back in the hey day of anime was considered nigh-unbeatable, but now there are people arguing that he might not be able to destroy a planet until much later in the series.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 16, 2009 14:17:05 GMT -5
Here's what Jinzin had to say:
what's the point?
The Superman supporters were simply and clearly ignoring every bit of proof that they didn't like which was threatening to Superman. Every time a pro-DBZ feat was brought up that was a legitimate occurance of Superman's inferiority they defaulted to "canon" even though the thread specified non-canon material...
If I'm going to spend my time debating with someone, I'd much rather it be someone who's open to information coming in rather than just insisting that facts do and don't count when it suits them.
How many times as Batman given Supe's a hard time? It's easy to discredit a character when you use every convinient plot hole you can to pick apart what they can and can't do, and that's exactly how they were arguing.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 17, 2009 6:35:35 GMT -5
I seem to remember Jinzin giving me a pm like that.
I'm not sure if he means Batman giving Supes trouble should be accounted for, because I've seen him argue like that.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 17, 2009 12:08:32 GMT -5
I think he's pointing out the fact that people tend to use low ends to pick apart a Goku and that he could do the same with supes using his feats against Batman. I've seen him argue like that too like when he brought up Venom beating Superman. Like you said the whole thing is a fanboy war. It would be great to debate it here with a small group of open minded well meaning people.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 16, 2009 23:06:10 GMT -5
I guess both sides have their arguments and meanings, but there are also far too many haters as well as fanboys.
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Post by JACK-2 on Feb 23, 2009 18:09:56 GMT -5
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Mar 10, 2009 3:52:24 GMT -5
Wiki can be informative, you just have to be able to spot the shady info, but I like the site.
Do you not care for it overall?
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Post by JACK-2 on Mar 10, 2009 3:58:36 GMT -5
It's just too controversial and conformative. It's an easy tool to use, but the bad outweighs the good to me.
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Post by lioncityhulkedc on Nov 23, 2011 13:39:38 GMT -5
Superman vs Goku
Strength:Superman By 100 leagues above,he can lift a planet,while Goku at best a 2 story building
Speed:Goku can best fly at speed of sound,superman speed of light ,so Supermam Majorly owns
Durability:Superman survives millions of nuke at blank point range,Goku durability is crap I mean DBZ characters at best can punch and break a Gaint stone but still can scratch each other like a mob kicking a cat
Power Output:Seriously Goku actually owns
But overall Superman wins 8/10
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Post by 786salamkhan on Jan 23, 2012 18:25:56 GMT -5
Ah good this forum knows Superman wins.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 23, 2012 19:06:24 GMT -5
Ah good this forum knows Superman wins. Yea, Superman is pretty powerful in his best forms.
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