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Post by bigbran on Oct 27, 2006 21:02:44 GMT -5
For those of you who don't know Chuck Liddel is, here: Better one: VS Mike Tyson. I think we all know who he is: I would personally give it to Chuck. No biting. No nutshotting. They fight in the Octagon. Octagon rules. Who wins?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Oct 27, 2006 21:36:25 GMT -5
Wolverine wins!!!! Sorry I just had to do that.
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Post by newjak on Oct 27, 2006 23:14:10 GMT -5
Yeah tyson looses he had a lot of power (Chuck also has some not quite as good but still up there) but his skill level wasn't top notch. He would be real easy to take to the ground as he wouldn't know how to counter and once on the ground he would be a fish out of water.
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Post by bigbran on Oct 27, 2006 23:25:31 GMT -5
Yeah tyson looses he had a lot of power (Chuck also has some not quite as good but still up there) but his skill level wasn't top notch. He would be real easy to take to the ground as he wouldn't know how to counter and once on the ground he would be a fish out of water. What about stand up? I know Chuck has quite a lot of power there. Tyson's head is probably pretty screwed from all his boxing, I think Chuck could KO him.
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Post by newjak on Oct 27, 2006 23:30:24 GMT -5
Yeah tyson looses he had a lot of power (Chuck also has some not quite as good but still up there) but his skill level wasn't top notch. He would be real easy to take to the ground as he wouldn't know how to counter and once on the ground he would be a fish out of water. What about stand up? I know Chuck has quite a lot of power there. Tyson's head is probably pretty screwed from all his boxing, I think Chuck could KO him. I think Chuck has a big Advantage because Tyson as a Boxer really liked to go after people and the first time he gets taken to the mat I could see him being a little more hesitant with attacking and thus Chuck could pick him apart. Straight up though hard to tell probably Tyson Chuck is tough but I think Tyson Edges him out in sheer punching power.
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Post by bigbran on Oct 27, 2006 23:37:46 GMT -5
What about stand up? I know Chuck has quite a lot of power there. Tyson's head is probably pretty screwed from all his boxing, I think Chuck could KO him. I think Chuck has a big Advantage because Tyson as a Boxer really liked to go after people and the first time he gets taken to the mat I could see him being a little more hesitant with attacking and thus Chuck could pick him apart. Straight up though hard to tell probably Tyson Chuck is tough but I think Tyson Edges him out in sheer punching power. Ya, of course going to the mat, Tyson will get killed. I don't know about striking. Chuck is a damn beast. Plus, I don't know how well Tyson could defend against punches coming from every direction. Also, I don't think he will expect a kick to the head. Well planted. I think Chuck could take him in stand up.
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Post by newjak on Oct 28, 2006 0:02:20 GMT -5
I think Chuck has a big Advantage because Tyson as a Boxer really liked to go after people and the first time he gets taken to the mat I could see him being a little more hesitant with attacking and thus Chuck could pick him apart. Straight up though hard to tell probably Tyson Chuck is tough but I think Tyson Edges him out in sheer punching power. Ya, of course going to the mat, Tyson will get killed. I don't know about striking. Chuck is a damn beast. Plus, I don't know how well Tyson could defend against punches coming from every direction. Also, I don't think he will expect a kick to the head. Well planted. I think Chuck could take him in stand up. Tyson has an obvious power advantage if you ask me because of weight doesn't he have about 25-30 pounds on Chuck and he used that power to knock down many other Heavey Weights. With kicks in place yeah Chuck defently has an advantage. But many standing fights use that secondary or to simply weaken the legs for take downs because with higher kicks and stronger spinning kicks have to be timed right and if they aren't it opens the fighter up quite well to hits. Overall though Tyson's power is hard to overcome in a straight up brawl and while he may not have the skills Chuck has he was still a trained pro so his skill isn't off to bad. Chuck could take it upright but I think he would be in an uphill battle with his biggest standing advantage in punching power going to the other person.
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Post by bigbran on Oct 28, 2006 0:17:44 GMT -5
Ya, of course going to the mat, Tyson will get killed. I don't know about striking. Chuck is a damn beast. Plus, I don't know how well Tyson could defend against punches coming from every direction. Also, I don't think he will expect a kick to the head. Well planted. I think Chuck could take him in stand up. Tyson has an obvious power advantage if you ask me because of weight doesn't he have about 25-30 pounds on Chuck and he used that power to knock down many other Heavey Weights. With kicks in place yeah Chuck defently has an advantage. But many standing fights use that secondary or to simply weaken the legs for take downs because with higher kicks and stronger spinning kicks have to be timed right and if they aren't it opens the fighter up quite well to hits. Overall though Tyson's power is hard to overcome in a straight up brawl and while he may not have the skills Chuck has he was still a trained pro so his skill isn't off to bad. Chuck could take it upright but I think he would be in an uphill battle with his biggest standing advantage in punching power going to the other person. How heavy is Tyson again? I know that Chuck is 205. Second, have you ever seen Chuck fight? (not to be ignorant) This guy isn't one to be taken out after a kick, in fact, the other person usually goes down after one of his kicks. Even if he misses, Mike isn't just going to take him out, Chuck recovers quite fast. He has awsome precision, if you want proof, go back to when he KOed Babalu. He hit him a couple times, then he followed up with a kick, KOed him. All of this was done in like one or maybe two seconds. Chuck also uses kicks to the head quite a lot, he doesn't usually kick to the legs as much as others, he goes straight for the head. I don't know. Chuck has quite the power. In fact, Jermey Horn, who has never been KOed, or even knocked down in over 100 fights, Chuck had knocked him down 3 times in their fight. Chuck had TKOed him. He was also the first to KO Randy Couture, in fact, he was the second and first one, and the only one to KO Randy. Plus Chuck is smart, and he hits fast and extremely hard. I honestly think he could win this in stand up. Tyson is good, but I think Liddell would edge over him.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Oct 28, 2006 5:06:17 GMT -5
He'll deliver more damage in a larger overall area, but not necessarily per square inch. Tyson has long lived out his best days, he's more of a has been now.
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Post by newjak on Oct 29, 2006 18:22:42 GMT -5
Tyson has an obvious power advantage if you ask me because of weight doesn't he have about 25-30 pounds on Chuck and he used that power to knock down many other Heavey Weights. With kicks in place yeah Chuck defently has an advantage. But many standing fights use that secondary or to simply weaken the legs for take downs because with higher kicks and stronger spinning kicks have to be timed right and if they aren't it opens the fighter up quite well to hits. Overall though Tyson's power is hard to overcome in a straight up brawl and while he may not have the skills Chuck has he was still a trained pro so his skill isn't off to bad. Chuck could take it upright but I think he would be in an uphill battle with his biggest standing advantage in punching power going to the other person. How heavy is Tyson again? I know that Chuck is 205. Second, have you ever seen Chuck fight? (not to be ignorant) This guy isn't one to be taken out after a kick, in fact, the other person usually goes down after one of his kicks. Even if he misses, Mike isn't just going to take him out, Chuck recovers quite fast. He has awsome precision, if you want proof, go back to when he KOed Babalu. He hit him a couple times, then he followed up with a kick, KOed him. All of this was done in like one or maybe two seconds. Chuck also uses kicks to the head quite a lot, he doesn't usually kick to the legs as much as others, he goes straight for the head. I don't know. Chuck has quite the power. In fact, Jermey Horn, who has never been KOed, or even knocked down in over 100 fights, Chuck had knocked him down 3 times in their fight. Chuck had TKOed him. He was also the first to KO Randy Couture, in fact, he was the second and first one, and the only one to KO Randy. Plus Chuck is smart, and he hits fast and extremely hard. I honestly think he could win this in stand up. Tyson is good, but I think Liddell would edge over him. Tyson is listed at 225 so 20 pounds. Yes I have seen Chuck fight he is one of my favorite UFC fighters I know what he can do. Now that being said Tyson is the bigger stronger guy. He was known for being th KO king. All he needed was to land that lucky punch somewhere. also I'm arueing for Tyson in his Prime which I think is fair taking both at their prime and comparing.
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Post by aaronj on Oct 31, 2006 7:30:42 GMT -5
If Chuck can keep Tyson away then he can get the knock out.
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Post by warmunger on Nov 3, 2006 23:30:17 GMT -5
I think Tyson can take it in a single punch, that's one powerful guy and they say that boxers are the most powerful punchers in the world and he was one of the best. Liddel can win if he can drag the fight out. Actualy the current Tyson is gonna get scraped but the Tyson in his prime is very capable.
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Post by jubilee on Nov 21, 2006 6:09:48 GMT -5
okay a single cage match octagon rules. then Chuck would just win. Tyson is only tied to boxing while chuck is mixed martial arts.
Besides chuck is just the animal tyson is but out of the match i heard chuck is a big softie. But then you should speak to my friends rage a ufc fighter and Nicci a massive ufc fan who has seen over 5 live fights including chuck's last fight which lasted 98 seconds.
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Post by Magic attack on Nov 27, 2006 19:31:34 GMT -5
lol. Sarah should have brought them both here so we could talk to them. I am sure they are quite the experts on the subject. Each contestent would win in their respective sport, assuming both were in their prime.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 17, 2006 0:42:31 GMT -5
lol. Sarah should have brought them both here so we could talk to them. I am sure they are quite the experts on the subject. Each contestent would win in their respective sport, assuming both were in their prime. Rage did do UFC if I recall.
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Post by Magic attack on Dec 17, 2006 1:11:23 GMT -5
lol. Sarah should have brought them both here so we could talk to them. I am sure they are quite the experts on the subject. Each contestent would win in their respective sport, assuming both were in their prime. Rage did do UFC if I recall. How did her fare? I dont think that the UFC fighters, or any mixed martial artist for that matter, make nearly enough for what they do.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Dec 17, 2006 1:15:24 GMT -5
Rage did do UFC if I recall. How did her fare? I dont think that the UFC fighters, or any mixed martial artist for that matter, make nearly enough for what they do. I remember him saying something about an announcer ruining his rep therefore he lost thousands, he trained fighters as well. You have to be reaaaaally famous to get good money, it's not that surprising to me seeing as alot of competitions like that are based on underground and betting, that most of them won't see 100,000 dollars.
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