Superman vs. Goku

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

darkstorm said:

I think I agreed with Janus when this thread was done on KMC... I said "I agree that Superman pimpslaps Goku with about as much effort as it takes for me to press keys on my keyboard."

And I hold true to that oppinion, because even though the Comic writers have about as much scientific knowlege as the contents of my toilet bowl, it is the way it is.

Did you ever argue in one of those epic threads? They were crazy.

[Darkstorm Zero]

I did, but I was never online long enough to make any sort of headway...

the Mc vs Samus and the superman vs Goku threads where the longest ones ever...

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

darkstorm said:

I did, but I was never online long enough to make any sort of headway...

the Mc vs Samus and the superman vs Goku threads where the longest ones ever...

That's what happens when you have loads of hardcore fan(boy)s.

[Darkstorm Zero]

It's really sad when conversations get dominated by personal insults and bullshit...

it was always a contest of "Who has the biggest E-Dick" when all of them where really just a bunch of real life pussies.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

darkstorm said:

It's really sad when conversations get dominated by personal insults and bullshit...

it was always a contest of "Who has the biggest E-Dick" when all of them where really just a bunch of real life pussies.

Lol, and it never gets old either.

[Darkstorm Zero]

No, only the people change... but the arguments linger like a bad stench.

[jackred]

I really wanna say that superman can;t beat goku if you seem goku fight brolly you know he won;t back away from this.

[Darkstorm Zero]

The movies are non-canon for starters... but that aside, Goku can't push planets, or seal black holes with nothing but his hands.

Seriously, Goku has trouble lifting buildings at SSJ4

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

darkstorm said:

No, only the people change... but the arguments linger like a bad stench.

Like your septic tank?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

jackred said:

I really wanna say that superman can;t beat goku if you seem goku fight brolly you know he won;t back away from this.

The only thing is DBZ has some big inconsistencies. It's really hard to gauge them.

[JACK-2]

This would be a good fight, but supes abilities are too all over the place for me to judge who wins. I've stated that I believe supes could win, but now I dunno.

Speed: Son Goku speed hasn't been cosistently measured, but during one disscusion we discovered that post Kai-O-ken training his speed was around mach 17-18.

Snake Way= 600,000 miles
Goku took 2 days to cross that distance
rate x time= distance

We need to figure out the rate to know how fast Goku was going. Fortunately, we have the time and the distance. So,

r x 48 hours = 600,000
r x 48/48= 600,000/48
r = 12,500 miles per hour or mach 18

Furthermore, I doubt anyone could move at light speed in Dbz. The fastest time ever recorded was Gotenks race around the globe. It was around Mach 632, which is 1/8 the speed of light.

Goku would be faster than supes if he could use Shukan Ido in a combat situation versus merely for traveling like he did Movie 6: Dragon Ball Z: Gekitotsu!! 100-Oku Pawâ no Senshi-tachi.


Strength: About Son goku's lifting strength, He had four weights strapped on him that each weighed two tons a piece making a total of 8 tons. South Kai increased the weights by 8 more tons, making the total weight ten tons a piece. That's a total of 40 tons, and when Goku transformed into a Supa Saiyai-jin, he carried said weights easily. Plus he had heavy clothing.

Durability: Son Goku has the ability to shield himself with Ki as he demonstrated during his conversation with Mira Trunks. Also, he can survive contact with molten rock during his fight on namek and impacts through moutains.

kuwabara said:

it was 40tons on each arm and leg. That was with out king kia planet which ways 10 times that of earths whcih means it was 400 tons + 400 tons + 400 tons +400 tons =1600 tons in sayin form.

Problem is, that Goku was not on Kai-O's planet, since it was destroyed by cell.

-The Azure Dragon of Gales

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

thebluedragongales said:

This would be a good fight, but supes abilities are too all over the place for me to judge who wins. I've stated that I believe supes could win, but now I dunno.

Speed: Son Goku speed hasn't been cosistently measured, but during one disscusion we discovered that post Kai-O-ken training his speed was around mach 17-18.

Snake Way= 600,000 miles
Goku took 2 days to cross that distance
rate x time= distance

We need to figure out the rate to know how fast Goku was going. Fortunately, we have the time and the distance. So,

r x 48 hours = 600,000
r x 48/48= 600,000/48
r = 12,500 miles per hour or mach 18

Furthermore, I doubt anyone could move at light speed in Dbz. The fastest time ever recorded was Gotenks race around the globe. It was around Mach 632, which is 1/8 the speed of light.

Goku would be faster than supes if he could use Shukan Ido in a combat situation versus merely for traveling like he did Movie 6: Dragon Ball Z: Gekitotsu!! 100-Oku Pawâ no Senshi-tachi.


Strength: About Son goku's lifting strength, He had four weights strapped on him that each weighed two tons a piece making a total of 8 tons. South Kai increased the weights by 8 more tons, making the total weight ten tons a piece. That's a total of 40 tons, and when Goku transformed into a Supa Saiyai-jin, he carried said weights easily. Plus he had heavy clothing.

Durability: Son Goku has the ability to shield himself with Ki as he demonstrated during his conversation with Mira Trunks. Also, he can survive contact with molten rock during his fight on namek and impacts through moutains.

kuwabara said:

it was 40tons on each arm and leg. That was with out king kia planet which ways 10 times that of earths whcih means it was 400 tons + 400 tons + 400 tons +400 tons =1600 tons in sayin form.

Problem is, that Goku was not on Kai-O's planet, since it was destroyed by cell.

-The Azure Dragon of Gales

It's really too hard to tell due to inconsistencies.

[JACK-2]

Not really, most inconsistency's arise from people misinterperting a scene

-The Azure Dragon of Gales

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

thebluedragongales said:

Not really, most inconsistency's arise from people misinterperting a scene

-The Azure Dragon of Gales

Well DBZ does have some issues with their consistencies in speed and power, particularly when they transfer to DBZ: GT.

[JACK-2]

GT isn't canon, that's why

[darthrevan]

GT is also crap too.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

thebluedragongales said:

GT isn't canon, that's why

People debating it in KMC still used it. SSJ3 is generally considered the most powerful.

GT wasn't a bad show, but it suffered from the same thing that DBZ did, it got really repetitive. I like Dragonball alot however becase it had plenty of story.

[JACK-2]

I wish GT suffered from the samething that DBZ did, because it sucked so bad. Things like: Continuity Breaks, Lame/unoriginal Villians *Cough* Supa Seventeen*Cough*, Watered down versions of the characters, Unoriginal fights. . .Just pure garbage. DBZ began to slow down post frieza saga, namely during the Cell saga with all that Supa Saiya-jin Cluster fucking (Even though it was an attempt to add depth to the Supa Saiya-jin, there were too many Supa Saiya-jin forms, more than buu saga). Buu saga felt more like ol' school Dragon Ball with things like: Fusion ( the most original plot device ever.), Ghost Super Kamikaze attack, Buu's Henka beam, and the wackiness. . .I just wish piccolo had more fights.

-The Azure Dragon of Gales

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

thebluedragongales said:

I wish GT suffered from the samething that DBZ did, because it sucked so bad. Things like: Continuity Breaks, Lame/unoriginal Villians *Cough* Supa Seventeen*Cough*, Watered down versions of the characters, Unoriginal fights. . .Just pure garbage. DBZ began to slow down post frieza saga, namely during the Cell saga with all that Supa Saiya-jin Cluster fucking (Even though it was an attempt to add depth to the Supa Saiya-jin, there were too many Supa Saiya-jin forms, more than buu saga). Buu saga felt more like ol' school Dragon Ball with things like: Fusion ( the most original plot device ever.), Ghost Super Kamikaze attack, Buu's Henka beam, and the wackiness. . .I just wish piccolo had more fights.

-The Azure Dragon of Gales

GT was also released here to simply cash in on the popularity of DBZ anyways.