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[kuwabara]

Can Drizzt and Bruenor compete with street levels in comics?








I say yes what do you all think?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

kuwabara said:

Can Drizzt and Bruenor compete with street levels in comics?








I say yes what do you all think?

Yes, they have vasts amounts of magical abilities.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

kuwabara said:

Can Drizzt and Bruenor compete with street levels in comics?I say yes what do you all think?

Yes, they have vasts amounts of magical abilities.

ya I agree.

Drizzt agility and reflex is easily peak human to superhuman.

Bruenor strength and durability is easily peak human to superhuman.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

I believe an 18 in stats are the best a human can get, anything beyond that is superhuman in greater degrees.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

I believe an 18 in stats are the best a human can get, anything beyond that is superhuman in greater degrees.

yup

[EsteemedLeader©]

I think Drizzt is a street-level contender. Definitely.

[kuwabara]

esteemedleader said:

I think Drizzt is a street-level contender. Definitely.

how about Bruenor

[EsteemedLeader©]

Bruenor I'm not so sure about. It will require study and contemplation.

[kuwabara]

esteemedleader said:

Bruenor I'm not so sure about. It will require study and contemplation.

the author has said he really does not know who would wun between drizzt and bruenor

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Because he is too powerful?

[kuwabara]

admin said:

Because he is too powerful?

?

[Magic attack]

I have always enjoyed reading R.A. Salvatore's books.

[kuwabara]

shakezula said:

I have always enjoyed reading R.A. Salvatore's books.

me too

[Dreampanther]

kuwabara said:

esteemedleader said:

Bruenor I'm not so sure about. It will require study and contemplation.

the author has said he really does not know who would wun between drizzt and bruenor

I reckon Drizzt would take it. Bruenor is tough and a warrior-king, but Drizzt is too fast and too agile for him. And they are definitely Street Level contenders. In fact, Drizzt in "Hunter" mode would clear most of the board, in my estimation - his agility, speed, skill and natural magical aptitude should give him an edge, plus he has magical scimitars and can see in the dark.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

dreampanther said:

kuwabara said:

the author has said he really does not know who would wun between drizzt and bruenor

I reckon Drizzt would take it. Bruenor is tough and a warrior-king, but Drizzt is too fast and too agile for him. And they are definitely Street Level contenders. In fact, Drizzt in "Hunter" mode would clear most of the board, in my estimation - his agility, speed, skill and natural magical aptitude should give him an edge, plus he has magical scimitars and can see in the dark.

Good ol' infrasion.

What would you give Drizzt out of ten?

[Dreampanther]

You mean against Bruenor? 9/10, and I'm only giving Bruenor 1 out of sympathy, and because anything can happen in a fight. Bruenor is a great warrior, but he is a king first, a leader of his people, and a warrior second.

Drizzt is faster, more agile, more skilled, he has magic swords, and he is a warrior first. Unlike Bruenor, he doesn't have a kingdom to take time away from his adventuring. Besides, when you check out the fights, Drizzt usually take out two or three monsters for every one Bruenor takes out. Even Wulfgar, in theory, should be able to take Bruenor out - while he doesn't have the experience, he has the skill, the strength and the size advantage.

And Wulfgar himself has admitted Drizzt can take him.

There have only been two warriors able to keep up with Drizzt, if I recall correctly - one was Entreri, and the other was his old mentor/teacher.

Against Street Levellers? I dunno - who specifically do you have in mind? I remember I had a long argument with somebody about who would win between Thing and Drizzt, once (I think it was on KMC) - I argued for Drizzt. He's used to fighting hill giants and mountain giants, and his magic swords should be able to cut Thing's skin - all that, plus his speed and agility should give him quite an advantage....

But we couldn't agree on whether his scimitars would be able to cut Thing's skin, so eventually we agreed to disagree...

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

dreampanther said:

You mean against Bruenor? 9/10, and I'm only giving Bruenor 1 out of sympathy, and because anything can happen in a fight. Bruenor is a great warrior, but he is a king first, a leader of his people, and a warrior second.

Drizzt is faster, more agile, more skilled, he has magic swords, and he is a warrior first. Unlike Bruenor, he doesn't have a kingdom to take time away from his adventuring. Besides, when you check out the fights, Drizzt usually take out two or three monsters for every one Bruenor takes out. Even Wulfgar, in theory, should be able to take Bruenor out - while he doesn't have the experience, he has the skill, the strength and the size advantage.

And Wulfgar himself has admitted Drizzt can take him.

There have only been two warriors able to keep up with Drizzt, if I recall correctly - one was Entreri, and the other was his old mentor/teacher.

Against Street Levellers? I dunno - who specifically do you have in mind? I remember I had a long argument with somebody about who would win between Thing and Drizzt, once (I think it was on KMC) - I argued for Drizzt. He's used to fighting hill giants and mountain giants, and his magic swords should be able to cut Thing's skin - all that, plus his speed and agility should give him quite an advantage....

But we couldn't agree on whether his scimitars would be able to cut Thing's skin, so eventually we agreed to disagree...

I agree with your conclusion.

KMC is full of fanboys of "everyman comics" if it's not Marvel or DC, everything else gets left in the dark. Fighting creatures whose skin is like stones, and things like Balors and Dragons, a strongguy brick is overwhelming? Quite ridiculous I think, it's nice to find someone who knows their stuff on this topic however. Kuwabara made a Forgotten Realms section, but he is trying to find people who know their stuff.

[kuwabara]

I finishing my post soon how ever I want to mention Bruenor>>>>>>>>>>>>>wulfgar

[kuwabara]

dreampanther said:

You mean against Bruenor? 9/10, and I'm only giving Bruenor 1 out of sympathy, and because anything can happen in a fight. Bruenor is a great warrior, but he is a king first, a leader of his people, and a warrior second. ...

Actually as it been shown through out the books Bruenor is a fighter first then a king. He him self does not believe he truly made to be King he would rather fight a bunch of orcs then sit on the thrown. You really give Bruenor no credit at all which is sad. Most people tend to underestimate him and the other stated Drizzt is the best, but I would never bet against Bruenor. That pretty clearly means the fight could go either way. People tend to under estimate Bruenor because he not as main of a character as Drizzt. I have even seen people lump him with wulfgar which is pretty dumb on there part because, Bruenor would defeat wulfgar with little to no effort.

dreampanther said:

Drizzt is faster,

That is true how ever Bruenor is quite fast and has slade many drow. He can easily keep up with drow speed well in combat. Drizzt would also find it close to impossible getting through Bruenor’s defenses unless Bruenor allows it, how ever the same could be said for Drizzt.

dreampanther said:

more agile,

True how ever bruenor is not built to be agile. He built to be tough and his durability is easily an equal to drizzt’s agility if not it better.

dreampanther said:

more skilled,

Now that just a false statement. Bruenor is equal in skill he just uses different weapons. If drizzt used an axe and a shield in look like a chump next to Bruenor and the same goes for Bruenor if he was to use two simitars he look like a chump next to Drizzt. They are equals in skills they just use different types of weapons.

dreampanther said:

he has magic swords,

Yes and Bruenor has a magical Axe and shield not to mention magical armor.

dreampanther said:

and he is a warrior first. Unlike Bruenor, he doesn't have a kingdom to take time away from his adventuring.

So is Bruenor. Bruenor is a warrior first and foremost. You seem to be under the impression that being king has stop from his adventuring that was only true recently. That also was only true for about hmm 4 years. Four years is not a big deal when Bruenor is about 250. He is many years older then Drizzt if you are going by adventuring time then Bruenor would dwarf Drizzt many times over. Both have adventure for many years. Bruenor being King only affected him for a little while, but that was nothing to him and he is still not one to stay in side and was more then likely going out on little adventures or training. To say that Bruenor king ship makes him less then drizzt is quite insane because he has only been king for like 8 years or so. He was leader of his clan for over 150 year how ever that effected nothing because he went out adventuring all the time. His clan were known for fighting monsters and Bruenor was known above them all for his fighting skills and bravery. Drizzt even ounce mention during the thousand orcs trilogy that Bruenor was beyond fear and was even braver than him self.

dreampanther said:

Besides, when you check out the fights, Drizzt usually take out two or three monsters for every one Bruenor takes out. ...

This statement is clearly false. I own ever single book and if any thing Bruenor tends to kill more creature then Drizzt. Like in “Passage of Dawn” when Bruenor kills far more yetis and winter creature during the battle on the field. Also another example is through out the battles in “Streams of Silver” Bruenor killed more creature through out that book then Drizzt. So to say Drizzt Kills more then 3 times Bruenor is complete false. Drizzt and Bruenor are either equals in kills or Bruenor has more. It tends to go back and forth depending on the scenario. Though Bruenor tends to kill more creatures then Drizzt then vice versa.

dreampanther said:

Even Wulfgar, in theory, should be able to take Bruenor out

I really enjoyed are discussion until this post. You underrate Bruenor through out your post which is ok since many people tend to. How ever you are saying Wulfar in theory should beat Bruenor is just ridiculous and far from ever happening. Both Bruenor and Drizzt have defeated wulfgar in the books with little to no difficulty on more then one occasion to if I am not mistaken. Wulgar has not a single advantage over Bruenor and has many disadvantage.

dreampanther said:

- while he doesn't have the experience,

Of course he does not. Not even Drizzt has more experience then Bruenor who around 250 years of age.

dreampanther said:

he has the skill,

Do you mean he is skilled? Yes he is extremely skilled because he was taught by Bruenor and Drizzt. More skilled than Bruenor though? Hell NO not even close, Bruenor skill level is leagues above wulfgar.

dreampanther said:

the strength

He strong true how ever, so is Bruenor and I would put Bruenor strength and wulfgar about equal. Also Bruenor far quicker in battle and is far more durable not that he need it since Wulfgar would never land a blow. Plus Bruenor stamina is far superior as well.

dreampanther said:

and the size advantage.

Depends actually in reality he has a huge disadvantage fighting Bruenor that is why he had Drizzt train him later on. Bruenor would be able to hit wulfgar knees and mid section while wulfgar would have a hard time swing so low. Also Bruenor shield and such would make it an almost impossible target for wulgar to hit, because Bruenor is so short with such a big shield. Also Bruenor weapon is huge which gives him a huge reach yet he is such a small target.

dreampanther said:

And Wulfgar himself has admitted Drizzt can take him.

Yes and if I am not mistaken he ahs admitted Bruenor could take him. Also Drizzt regis and catt. Were both immensely scared that Bruenor would kill wulgar one time if I am not mistaken.

dreampanther said:

There have only been two warriors able to keep up with Drizzt, if I recall correctly

In his style of fighting not ever type of fighting. Only people who can keep up with him in two weapon sword fighting not every type of fighting and styles. Bruenor is just as skilled, but his weapons are a lot different then Drizzt.

dreampanther said:

- one was Entreri, and the other was his old mentor/teacher.

You mean Zaknafein Do'Urden who is Drizzt’s father

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

So are you saying Drizzt can't win?

[kuwabara]

admin said:

So are you saying Drizzt can't win?

opps not I forgot to mention what I would give the fight.


I agree with the author I give it 5/10 even split.

Or they kill eachother.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Ah, ok.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

Ah, ok.

yuo seem not to agree with this?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

kuwabara said:

admin said:

Ah, ok.

yuo seem not to agree with this?

I have my views, but I was asking you yours, you gave a very detailed summary, and I'm weighing the evidence.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

kuwabara said:

yuo seem not to agree with this?

I have my views, but I was asking you yours, you gave a very detailed summary, and I'm weighing the evidence.

sounds good. I have a prodiction that Bruenor will kill the orc king

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

What is that based on?

[kuwabara]

admin said:

What is that based on?

Well if you look at the orc king he is Bruenors Entre.

I also think that Bruenor may in fact be an avatar