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Post by Darkstorm Zero on Jan 29, 2012 21:35:31 GMT -5
By ball, I mean the forming of the kamehameha.... To the Ninjas it would look like he's holding a miniature sun, especially to a Hyuuga.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 29, 2012 21:41:10 GMT -5
By ball, I mean the forming of the kamehameha.... To the Ninjas it would look like he's holding a miniature sun, especially to a Hyuuga. Oh I know. So you don't think he could resist their moves long enough to get it started?
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Post by Darkstorm Zero on Jan 29, 2012 21:44:29 GMT -5
He could start forming it, but he could never get the time to fire it before something like Kamui rips his head off, or Juuken disables him... He doesn't move while forming it, unlike Goku and the others.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 29, 2012 21:53:53 GMT -5
He could start forming it, but he could never get the time to fire it before something like Kamui rips his head off, or Juuken disables him... He doesn't move while forming it, unlike Goku and the others. What about Captain Ginyu?
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Post by Darkstorm Zero on Jan 29, 2012 22:06:29 GMT -5
What about Captain Ginyu? Not sure I understand the question... Ginyu was a powerhouse. if we go by powerscaling alone, he is worth 92.5 times that of Raditz... That is INSANE.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 29, 2012 22:16:53 GMT -5
What about Captain Ginyu? Not sure I understand the question... Ginyu was a powerhouse. if we go by powerscaling alone, he is worth 92.5 times that of Raditz... That is INSANE. Damn inconsistent scaling. 100x?
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Post by Darkstorm Zero on Jan 29, 2012 22:36:50 GMT -5
1,300 power level for Raditz goes into 120,000 power level for Ginyu roughly 92.5 times, according to my calculator.
But yea, after a certain extend, I suppose it doesn't matter if it's 92 times, 93 times, or 100 times, the end result is the same.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 30, 2012 4:46:12 GMT -5
1,300 power level for Raditz goes into 120,000 power level for Ginyu roughly 92.5 times, according to my calculator. But yea, after a certain extend, I suppose it doesn't matter if it's 92 times, 93 times, or 100 times, the end result is the same. Yea I rounded up. DBZ is notorious for high numbers but feats that don't correlate.
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Post by 786salamkhan on Jan 30, 2012 9:30:49 GMT -5
They actually don't, that's the thing. Hold up... after 22nd budokai, Roshi literally falls off the map... he has done literally nothing past that, he hasn't even learned to fly. Videl at the very least has that. They'd be on par with some of the Low-Mid tiers like Sakura and Ino. While Roshi would take most of the Mid-High tiers. Meh, If your relying on the moon busting Kamehameha as a staple, it takes far too long for that to fire. Ino has that mind fuckery going on, and Sakura's precision at least matches Roshi's, and Roshi has always had trouble with females whom can physically overpower him We're not talking about when he falls off the map. This thread is anything goes remember? Even without his moon busting Kamehameha Roshi is at least Town level and is much faster than all if not most Naruto characters. Again this is anything goes; there is no CIS.
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Post by 786salamkhan on Jan 30, 2012 9:33:15 GMT -5
If I were to be honest highest power levels Naruto top tiers would get to is 300 and that's me being generous.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 30, 2012 21:05:42 GMT -5
Hold up... after 22nd budokai, Roshi literally falls off the map... he has done literally nothing past that, he hasn't even learned to fly. Videl at the very least has that. Meh, If your relying on the moon busting Kamehameha as a staple, it takes far too long for that to fire. Ino has that mind fuckery going on, and Sakura's precision at least matches Roshi's, and Roshi has always had trouble with females whom can physically overpower him We're not talking about when he falls off the map. This thread is anything goes remember? Even without his moon busting Kamehameha Roshi is at least Town level and is much faster than all if not most Naruto characters. Again this is anything goes; there is no CIS. It makes sense if you mean Roshi in his prime.
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Post by Darkstorm Zero on Jan 30, 2012 21:44:05 GMT -5
We're not talking about when he falls off the map. This thread is anything goes remember? Even without his moon busting Kamehameha Roshi is at least Town level and is much faster than all if not most Naruto characters. Again this is anything goes; there is no CIS. I know what it is, I made it remember? Actually, he busted Fire Mountain, which is equivalent to a Bijuu Dama. But as for speed, I'm not sure about that... Haku, Minato and current Naruto are way up in speed, same with A/Raikage... Never said there was. If I were to be honest highest power levels Naruto top tiers would get to is 300 and that's me being generous. We don't know that... Pit Raditz against the 6 paths of Pain... Hell Goku was suprised and impressed when Frieza levitated an island with telepathy, and goku's power level at that stage is pretty high for a pre-SSJ... imagine his reaction to Yahiko Pain (God Path) forming a mini-moon.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 30, 2012 23:14:29 GMT -5
We're not talking about when he falls off the map. This thread is anything goes remember? Even without his moon busting Kamehameha Roshi is at least Town level and is much faster than all if not most Naruto characters. Again this is anything goes; there is no CIS. I know what it is, I made it remember? Actually, he busted Fire Mountain, which is equivalent to a Bijuu Dama. But as for speed, I'm not sure about that... Haku, Minato and current Naruto are way up in speed, same with A/Raikage... Never said there was. If I were to be honest highest power levels Naruto top tiers would get to is 300 and that's me being generous. We don't know that... Pit Raditz against the 6 paths of Pain... Hell Goku was suprised and impressed when Frieza levitated an island with telepathy, and goku's power level at that stage is pretty high for a pre-SSJ... imagine his reaction to Yahiko Pain (God Path) forming a mini-moon. What's Roshi's best speed feat?
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Post by 786salamkhan on Jan 31, 2012 4:21:46 GMT -5
I know what it is, I made it remember? Actually, he busted Fire Mountain, which is equivalent to a Bijuu Dama. But as for speed, I'm not sure about that... Haku, Minato and current Naruto are way up in speed, same with A/Raikage... Never said there was. We don't know that... Pit Raditz against the 6 paths of Pain... Hell Goku was suprised and impressed when Frieza levitated an island with telepathy, and goku's power level at that stage is pretty high for a pre-SSJ... imagine his reaction to Yahiko Pain (God Path) forming a mini-moon. What's Roshi's best speed feat? Roshi at base dodged can caught Machine gun fire.
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Post by 786salamkhan on Jan 31, 2012 4:25:11 GMT -5
We're not talking about when he falls off the map. This thread is anything goes remember? Even without his moon busting Kamehameha Roshi is at least Town level and is much faster than all if not most Naruto characters. Again this is anything goes; there is no CIS. I know what it is, I made it remember? Actually, he busted Fire Mountain, which is equivalent to a Bijuu Dama. But as for speed, I'm not sure about that... Haku, Minato and current Naruto are way up in speed, same with A/Raikage... Never said there was. If I were to be honest highest power levels Naruto top tiers would get to is 300 and that's me being generous. We don't know that... Pit Raditz against the 6 paths of Pain... Hell Goku was suprised and impressed when Frieza levitated an island with telepathy, and goku's power level at that stage is pretty high for a pre-SSJ... imagine his reaction to Yahiko Pain (God Path) forming a mini-moon. You said Roshi is a sucker for women; that's CIS. Roshi is much faster than Machine gun fire in his base while Haku basically is Machine gun bullets with ice mirrors; huge difference. Raditz would blitz the death out of Pain. The Narutoverse overall are a bit lacking in speed; even the top tiers only reach Hypersonic while even Roshi at max goes higher. outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Only+Five+Seconds...
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 31, 2012 8:42:34 GMT -5
I know what it is, I made it remember? Actually, he busted Fire Mountain, which is equivalent to a Bijuu Dama. But as for speed, I'm not sure about that... Haku, Minato and current Naruto are way up in speed, same with A/Raikage... Never said there was. We don't know that... Pit Raditz against the 6 paths of Pain... Hell Goku was suprised and impressed when Frieza levitated an island with telepathy, and goku's power level at that stage is pretty high for a pre-SSJ... imagine his reaction to Yahiko Pain (God Path) forming a mini-moon. You said Roshi is a sucker for women; that's CIS. Roshi is much faster than Machine gun fire in his base while Haku basically is Machine gun bullets with ice mirrors; huge difference. Raditz would blitz the death out of Pain. The Narutoverse overall are a bit lacking in speed; even the top tiers only reach Hypersonic while even Roshi at max goes higher. outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Only+Five+Seconds... That's not too hard to expect. Guys like Daredevil have gotten around machine gun fire in comics.
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Post by Blaze72 on Feb 1, 2012 8:20:30 GMT -5
Roshi has also defeated Kid Goku just barely.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 1, 2012 11:36:00 GMT -5
Roshi has also defeated Kid Goku just barely. Yep, the most memorable moment in DB.
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Post by Blaze72 on Feb 7, 2012 4:05:42 GMT -5
SS3 Broly like he is'nt powerful enough
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 7, 2012 8:03:32 GMT -5
SS3 Broly like he is'nt powerful enough Yea, Broly clearly stands no chance. #scary#
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Post by Blaze72 on Feb 7, 2012 8:10:54 GMT -5
You mean Goku don't you?
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Post by Darkstorm Zero on Feb 7, 2012 10:10:12 GMT -5
I know what it is, I made it remember? Actually, he busted Fire Mountain, which is equivalent to a Bijuu Dama. But as for speed, I'm not sure about that... Haku, Minato and current Naruto are way up in speed, same with A/Raikage... Never said there was. We don't know that... Pit Raditz against the 6 paths of Pain... Hell Goku was suprised and impressed when Frieza levitated an island with telepathy, and goku's power level at that stage is pretty high for a pre-SSJ... imagine his reaction to Yahiko Pain (God Path) forming a mini-moon. You said Roshi is a sucker for women; that's CIS. Roshi is much faster than Machine gun fire in his base while Haku basically is Machine gun bullets with ice mirrors; huge difference. Raditz would blitz the death out of Pain. The Narutoverse overall are a bit lacking in speed; even the top tiers only reach Hypersonic while even Roshi at max goes higher. outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Only+Five+Seconds... Are you telling me he is not? I wasn't serious with that you know... Well, depending on translations and dubs of course, some have him moving at near lightspeed... I doubt thats official though. That said, Kishimoto did once state that guns and missiles would make the ninjas extinct. I am not sure if he ment that the ninja way of life as a philosophy would die off or wether or not gunfire would actually simply kill them all... *Shrugs* I'm not a big fan of Battledome's featwars style of debating (part of the reason I don't go there), but I will say that there is more to fighting than simply having more raw speed and power. Variety of powers can play a massive role in whom eventually becomes successful. Things like intelligence also plays a role. And Pain is not an idiot, Raditz isn't very high on the intelligence quota, he's not as low on the scale as say Nappa or Recoome, but he's not in the realm of Vegeta or Piccolo in terms of brains either... That said, would I actually bet on Pain winning 1on1 against Raditz, even as 6 paths? No.... Not even God Path (Yahiko Pain) can tip that scale, no matter how big a Shinra Tensei he can do.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 7, 2012 21:06:25 GMT -5
I meant Broly in regards to this thread, I was being sarcastic.
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Post by Blaze72 on Feb 11, 2012 8:49:38 GMT -5
TOOOOO MUCH POWER VEGETA!!
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 11, 2012 8:53:03 GMT -5
TOOOOO MUCH POWER VEGETA!! Vegeta would lose.
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Post by Blaze72 on Feb 12, 2012 2:23:57 GMT -5
Of course he would
he think he's better but still loses.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 12, 2012 10:12:23 GMT -5
Of course he would he think he's better but still loses. What about kid Goku? In Dragonball?
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Post by Blaze72 on Feb 15, 2012 8:46:02 GMT -5
He'd ram that staff up someones arse in a fit of rage.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 15, 2012 9:59:24 GMT -5
He'd ram that staff up someones arse in a fit of rage. Aww... he could lose though.
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