Ryu and Iori spar 2 weeks.

[JACK-2]

I wanna try something new for a change, instead of pitting characters in versus debates. How about we make scenerios where two characters interact in whatever way the thread starter wants and see what happens? Maybe with a different approach we can bolster new results and new ways of thinking. Ways that are unique to our forum or better yet ways of thinking that eventually change how things are done. I'm hoping to lead by example or simply cultivate something refreshing, flexible, and most of all laid back.

In order to prepare for KOF 12 Iori decides to seek out Ryu in order to have a friendly sparring competition. Let's say for say two weeks straight, with matches occuring every other day. They also decide to barr lethal techniques. Furthermore, let's say this is current Iori, who can no longer manifest flames. Ryu in order to handicap himself for the sake of making it fair forfeits the use of the Hadou wave. To be even more fair, what if Iori has a minimum of one year experience fighting without the flames in advance to this sparring session. [Just to make sure he is used to them]. First week they spar in Suzaku castle, for those of you who don't know Suzaku castle is Ryu's trademark level. It's where he was raised/trained and it's where Gouken is buried. :









Second week they spar in south-town

How well do you think they do against each other, How much would they improve from fighting each other, How would their personalities clash, what would they learn from each other, Would Ryu make a better sparring partner than Kyo and vice-versa?

I also wanna point out that Iori uses more of an open handed approach when fighting:

He uses alot of hand darting and clawing. I dunno what martial arts I can compare it too, but I look it up for debate purposes.

Ryu on the other hand fights more like Karate-Ka and Judo-Ka. I heard he has other styles mingled in their, but those are the most apparent ones.

[warmunger]

I trully think this will B harder 4 Iori. Ryu hardly ever uses his Hadouken, especially win training with other people. We can see that Ryu trains very hard in the SF4 movie. The guy walks bare foot N the desert with no food, blowing craters N the ground 4 training. He nearly died from starvation, woke up 2 tell the dead wolf next 2 him that he was sorry 4 not dying 1st so that the wolf cood eat. Plus he's been N over 10,000 battles, Iori with no flame is still strong, I'm sure, but nothing Ryu hasn't seen B4. He will still enjoy the company and the challenge Iori wood bring. Ryu wood B the perfect training partner 4 Iori if Iori wasn't so obsessed with Kyo instead fighting 2 B-come stronger. Iori wood probably find Ryu's methods 2 X-treme and unnesessary. Ryu wood still B a better sparing partner than Kyo, cuz U shouldn't want 2 kill yur sparing partener.

Iori wood have a tougher time training with Ryu but he probably woodn't care and eventually get use 2 it. Iori wood come to KOF12 (like it matters since KOF12 doesn't even have a story) Stronger, more durable, and have higher endurance. N-stead of fire he wood B well on his way 2 mastering the chi within and wood probably B a better fighter 4 it.

May-B they can teach each other how 2 deal with the murderous tendencies within. If sum of Ryu managed to rub off on Iori, Iori woodn't be as mean and cold, probably wood attack more with a closed hand and will sum times even do the "right thing". If some of Iori rubbed off on Ryu, Ryu probably woodn't B spending his time walkin thru deserts and jungles as much. He might try 2 put on sum real clothes, 2.

And 4 the record, Gouken was still buried at Suzaku castle. SF4 just revealed that he wasn't actually dead, that's all. He tore out of his grave (Heihachi ) and went 2 look 4 Ryu and Ken.

[JACK-2]

Just so you know I'm using SF3 version of Ryu [Which is why I mentioned Gouken is dead] so he can be at his peak. As for murderous tendency's it should be noted that Ryu has gotten over Satsu No Hadou completely by SF3. So, I think Ryu would be more instrumental in teaching Iori how to control his murderous tendecy's. Seeing how he already has control of himself already. I'm not doubting that Ryu's hard training is more apparent than Iori's. It even mentions that in SF4, saying that Ryu increases the amount of training he does with everyday, which is crazy. But I think Iori trains differently than Ryu. Iori was born with his abilities and trains in order to get a better grip on them. Ryu on the otherhand trains to become stronger tomorrow than he was yesterday. I don't think it's comparable, it's like apples and oranges to me. I could be wrong about this, though.

Nah, Ryu's never fought someone like Iori before. I mean he's been around the block or world I should say, but I doubt he's met someone like Iori. We are talking about a mofo who wll get in your face and rip it off. . .Dude is vicous and he's much more aggressive than anyone I've seen Ryu fight. I think it would take Ryu sometime to get used to fighting him, he would take alot of hits before he starts getting it in.

I can't comment on his rivalary with Kyo, but it came off to me like something personal. It is about their two families so who knows?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

I don't think Ryu's training would be too "extreme"for Iori, but probably unnecessary to a degree. They would both come out learning something, especially Iori. However I don't think it is enough to alter each personality permanently.

[JACK-2]

Depends on what sort of alterations we are talking about, I could see Iori w/o his flames borrowing some techniques from Ryu.

How do you think Ryu would deal with Iori's way of fighting and vice-versa?

[warmunger]

Mar 10, 2009 23:43:49 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Just so you know I'm using SF3 version of Ryu [Which is why I mentioned Gouken is dead] so he can be at his peak. As for murderous tendency's it should be noted that Ryu has gotten over Satsu No Hadou completely by SF3. So, I think Ryu would be more instrumental in teaching Iori how to control his murderous tendecy's. Seeing how he already has control of himself already. I'm not doubting that Ryu's hard training is more apparent than Iori's. It even mentions that in SF4, saying that Ryu increases the amount of training he does with everyday, which is crazy. But I think Iori trains differently than Ryu. Iori was born with his abilities and trains in order to get a better grip on them. Ryu on the otherhand trains to become stronger tomorrow than he was yesterday. I don't think it's comparable, it's like apples and oranges to me. I could be wrong about this, though.

Nah, Ryu's never fought someone like Iori before. I mean he's been around the block or world I should say, but I doubt he's met someone like Iori. We are talking about a mofo who wll get in your face and rip it off. . .Dude is vicous and he's much more aggressive than anyone I've seen Ryu fight. I think it would take Ryu sometime to get used to fighting him, he would take alot of hits before he starts getting it in.

I can't comment on his rivalary with Kyo, but it came off to me like something personal. It is about their two families so who knows?

I didn't mean that Ryu had fought sum 1 as powerful as Iori, I was just saying that Ryu may have come across sum fighters N his travels that fight purely off instinct, like Iori. I looked it up and Iori's fighting style is listed as pure instict, with all the cutting and slashing.

I geuss Ryu wood B better equiped 2 help Iori with his blood problem. But then again, the Satsui No Hadou is very different than Riot of Blood.

Riot Iori is like "GYAAAAAAAAAA"!!!!!!

SNH Ryu is more like "...............I'll kill you".

I'm just thinking, what cood Ryu learn from Iori? Ryu is just 2 much of a "good guy" 4 Iori, IMO.

[JACK-2]

I get what your saying and it certainly makes sense. Just that we can't really be sure about if he could handle him based on that alone. But, I still feel Ryu is more adept at those kinds of spars than Iori. Because Iori doesn't come off as the type of fighter who does these things regular, if not at all. I dunno if Iori could do as well if he's not trying to kill the guy, because he moves really look like they are made to kill. At least to me that's what they look like.

Satsu No Hadou seems like you lose alot less of your composure, but the overwhelming Bloodlust is still their in both altered states of mind.

Maybe he could learn a technique, but I see this being more of a learning experience for Iori than Ryu. Quite frankly Ryu has alot to teach and is more of a mentor type than Iori. Not to mention he's already been through the type of problems Iori might be facing and has gotten over them already. No disrespect to Iori, but Ryu is just too experienced.

I think what would really be interesting is how would they respond to each others fighting styles.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

What type of sparring is this btw?

[JACK-2]

Full contact spar.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Mar 13, 2009 21:01:08 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Full contact spar.

So no gear, but not anything more than knockout damage at most? Then that would be a fight, some I'm guessing the normal damage.

[warmunger]

Mar 12, 2009 0:25:39 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Maybe he could learn a technique, but I see this being more of a learning experience for Iori than Ryu. Quite frankly Ryu has alot to teach and is more of a mentor type than Iori. Not to mention he's already been through the type of problems Iori might be facing and has gotten over them already. No disrespect to Iori, but Ryu is just too experienced.

lol, if U told Ryu that, he wood say he's 2 weak to mentor anybody. U think he wood be less willing 2 mentor Iori than he was Sakura?

[JACK-2]

^
That was a while back in Alpha, he's grown alot since then. I'm sure they can trade each other some pointers.

[warmunger]

He may B shocked if he seen Iori's purple flames. He wood think Iori was using Psycho Power. Iori might think Ryu had trained under Takuma. There wood B quite a few misunderstandings win they 1st meet.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

So many knockoffs it becomes confusing.

[JACK-2]

And, they get more similiar as the years go by. I still love Kyokugen karate, though.

[warmunger]

I think it's stupid. Far 2 much like Ansatsuken.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

What isn't nowadays?

[warmunger]

A lot of things. But don't U think that Ryo and the others fite just a little bit 2 much like Ryu?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Apr 4, 2009 19:33:24 GMT -5 @warmunger said:

A lot of things. But don't U think that Ryo and the others fite just a little bit 2 much like Ryu?

Yea, that's why they made Dan.

[warmunger]

Speaking of Dan, I think he's still a joke, but he's "useful" N SF4.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Really? How?

[Saikyo Kid]

Dan is pretty good, yo. He's decent. I can't really explain it but he's more of a serious character who also happens to be a joke, now. SFIV's balance is so good, even Dan has a chance. Saikyo Ryu is the greatest!