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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 16, 2014 9:46:57 GMT -5
I was curious what would happen if we discussed some strong marvel characters in a private setting. No KMC bs with fanboys ruining discussions.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 16, 2014 11:21:47 GMT -5
I was curious what would happen if we discussed some strong marvel characters in a private setting. No KMC bs with fanboys ruining discussions. What would you like to discuss? |
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 16, 2014 15:02:47 GMT -5
Here's one issue I've always had. When people give a character prep and simple say they would win without referencing what they've done on-panel or the context. Like how does Batman win? I've seen people use shared prep feats for proof. Like Batman w/ the justice league would count for just Batman alone. How do you think prep should work?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 16, 2014 15:04:25 GMT -5
Here's one issue I've always had. When people give a character prep and simple say they would win without referencing what they've done on-panel or the context. Like how does Batman win? I've seen people use shared prep feats for proof. Like Batman w/ the justice league would count for just Batman alone. That's the notorious problem with vs debates with fanboys. The prep thing just ends up being "well he can do anything since he's Batman." What really needs to be done is they need to list the supplies and the amount of time a character has in a prep battle to remove abuse. It's already annoying enough arguing against Batman without people doing that. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 16, 2014 15:06:23 GMT -5
Yeah, people never bring up what equipment the character can conjur with prep. They just use prep as an auto-win.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 16, 2014 15:11:50 GMT -5
Yeah, people never bring up what equipment the character can conjur with prep. They just use prep as an auto-win. Well to stop that the thread starter should make an explicit list of what is allowed. What resources he can use (computers, other members, etc.) and a time limit. I made a fanboy wars thread with Batman like that ages ago. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 16, 2014 15:15:25 GMT -5
Yeah, people never bring up what equipment the character can conjur with prep. They just use prep as an auto-win. Well to stop that the thread starter should make an explicit list of what is allowed. What resources he can use (computers, other members, etc.) and a time limit. I made a fanboy wars thread with Batman like that ages ago. Fanboys have an axe to grind. So, they won't ask for specifications. They'll rely on the ambiguous arrangement to stack the deck in their favor since their goal is "winning". I just care about facts, I'm disinterested on who wins. But, fanboys will try to rationalize it with "everyone is bias" nonsense. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 16, 2014 15:24:10 GMT -5
Well to stop that the thread starter should make an explicit list of what is allowed. What resources he can use (computers, other members, etc.) and a time limit. I made a fanboy wars thread with Batman like that ages ago. Fanboys have an axe to grind. So, they won't ask for specifications. They'll rely on the ambiguous arrangement to stack the deck in their favor since their goal is "winning". I just care about facts, I'm disinterested on who wins. But, fanboys will try to rationalize it with "everyone is bias" nonsense. You look at it from an intellectual perspective to expand your mind. Fanboys look at it as a way to boost their character. This is most debates though. Religion, politics, money, fanboy wars. It's not about trying to gain understanding or using rationale, just "winning" by any means. Just dumb. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 16, 2014 15:35:29 GMT -5
Yeah, Fanboys just suck.
Back to the discussion. I've always felt that cable is underrated.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 16, 2014 15:40:37 GMT -5
Yeah, Fanboys just suck. Back to the discussion. I've always felt that cable is underrated. Why do you say that? |
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 16, 2014 15:43:34 GMT -5
Yeah, Fanboys just suck. Back to the discussion. I've always felt that cable is underrated. Why do you say that? Not in the comics. But, like in matches people think he's a pushover. I've seen people claim wolverine would stomp him. He has alot of good feats people don't know about same with Bishop. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 16, 2014 17:28:40 GMT -5
Not in the comics. But, like in matches people think he's a pushover. I've seen people claim wolverine would stomp him. He has alot of good feats people don't know about same with Bishop. To be fair, people claim Wolverine stomps everyone. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 16, 2014 20:34:54 GMT -5
I kinda forgot the point of this thread lol. What do you think of Mr.Master?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 16, 2014 21:16:02 GMT -5
I kinda forgot the point of this thread lol. What do you think of Mr.Master? Do you mean the poster at KMC? He posted there a lot in the past. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 16, 2014 21:53:27 GMT -5
I kinda forgot the point of this thread lol. What do you think of Mr.Master? Do you mean the poster at KMC? He posted there a lot in the past. Yeah, the one that handles Marvels cosmology. |
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Post by Blaze72 on Jan 16, 2014 22:41:15 GMT -5
he can with some people.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 17, 2014 2:09:37 GMT -5
Do you mean the poster at KMC? He posted there a lot in the past. Yeah, the one that handles Marvels cosmology. Never dealt with him directly but he seemed love and hate to many members on the board. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 17, 2014 2:10:30 GMT -5
Same can be said with every character. Wolverine just had some nutty fanboys back then. It was crazy. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 17, 2014 2:23:04 GMT -5
Wolverine vs Godzilla lol.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 17, 2014 2:36:19 GMT -5
Wolverine vs Godzilla lol. Wolverine vs Hulk, Wolverine vs Iron Man, Wolverine vs Flash (OMFG). Plus so much stuff I can't remember. |
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Post by Blaze72 on Jan 17, 2014 2:40:37 GMT -5
What's silly about Wolverine vs Hulk?
its happened on page plenty of times.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 17, 2014 3:16:58 GMT -5
What's silly about Wolverine vs Hulk? its happened on page plenty of times. He doesn't stand a chance in a logical match. I mean Batman faces off against people in the comics he'd never beat in a forum fight because the rules assume they're at their best and Hulk is on a different level than Wolverine. Wolverine can survive against him though, he just won't beat him. |
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Post by Blaze72 on Jan 17, 2014 3:57:08 GMT -5
Unless he stabs him in the head.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 17, 2014 4:47:43 GMT -5
Unless he stabs him in the head. He'd heal from it. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 18, 2014 10:18:13 GMT -5
Gorr vs Odin or King Thor.
Alot of people have been saying Gorr is way above Sky-father and above Elder God level because he killed an Elder God. I honestly don't he's that strong. For one thing, when King Thor resuscitated the Odin Force for just a moment. The attack he used blew Gorr light Years away and made him shit his pants. If he really was above Sky-Father, none of what I just said would've been possible. People rank Gorr way too high anyway. Alot of people think he's above Surtur or The ones who sit above in shadow. I've even seen a few people who say he's stronger than Galactus lol.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 18, 2014 14:00:31 GMT -5
Gorr vs Odin or King Thor. Alot of people have been saying Gorr is way above Sky-father and above Elder God level because he killed an Elder God. I honestly don't he's that strong. For one thing, when King Thor resuscitated the Odin Force for just a moment. The attack he used blew Gorr light Years away and made him shit his pants. If he really was above Sky-Father, none of what I just said would've been possible. People rank Gorr way too high anyway. Alot of people think he's above Surtur or The ones who sit above in shadow. I've even seen a few people who say he's stronger than Galactus lol. Sounds like feat skewing. People who have tons of feats or only 1-2 good feats and nothing else tend to get that treatment. |
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 22, 2014 17:13:21 GMT -5
I think it also has to do with the fact that Gorr is the strongest Thor villain in a long time. The high ends in that arc were insane.
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 25, 2014 19:15:19 GMT -5
How many heroes in marvel can take a planet-busting blast head on?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Jan 26, 2014 2:02:58 GMT -5
How many heroes in marvel can take a planet-busting blast head on? DBZ style? |
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Post by JACK-2 on Jan 26, 2014 7:19:01 GMT -5
How many heroes in marvel can take a planet-busting blast head on? DBZ style? Yeah, like when they tank it with their bodies. No shields or absorption. |
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