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Post by KitsuneRae on Feb 5, 2015 18:55:42 GMT -5
What kind of laptop would you suggest for me to use for drawing on the computer as well as graphic design?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 5, 2015 19:20:00 GMT -5
What kind of laptop would you suggest for me to use for drawing on the computer as well as graphic design? For drawing *on* the actual laptop? |
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Post by KitsuneRae on Feb 5, 2015 19:21:51 GMT -5
What kind of laptop would you suggest for me to use for drawing on the computer as well as graphic design? For drawing *on* the actual laptop? No using illtrastor with a tablet |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 5, 2015 19:23:14 GMT -5
For drawing *on* the actual laptop? No using illtrastor with a tablet Anything powerful enough should work and that shouldn't take much. |
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Post by KitsuneRae on Feb 5, 2015 19:24:24 GMT -5
No using illtrastor with a tablet Anything powerful enough should work and that shouldn't take much. what would you recommend? |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 5, 2015 19:26:57 GMT -5
Anything powerful enough should work and that shouldn't take much. what would you recommend? What tablet are you using? Are you doing anything else with it like gaming? |
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Post by KitsuneRae on Feb 5, 2015 19:32:08 GMT -5
what would you recommend? What tablet are you using? Are you doing anything else with it like gaming? wacom small pen touch and yeah maybe a lil gaming maybe tho |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 5, 2015 19:36:30 GMT -5
What tablet are you using? Are you doing anything else with it like gaming? wacom small pen touch and yeah maybe a lil gaming maybe tho The 12inch? I've always recommended Sager to people because of the power/cost ratio. What games will you play? |
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Post by KitsuneRae on Feb 5, 2015 19:39:02 GMT -5
wacom small pen touch and yeah maybe a lil gaming maybe tho The 12inch? I've always recommended Sager to people because of the power/cost ratio. What games will you play? thats a laptop brand? sky rim, league of legends, ect. maybe till the new sky rim comes out for ps4 |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 5, 2015 19:45:34 GMT -5
The 12inch? I've always recommended Sager to people because of the power/cost ratio. What games will you play? thats a laptop brand? sky rim, league of legends, ect. maybe till the new sky rim comes out for ps4 Yep. Eeeew at rpg on console.  What are you willing to spend? |
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Post by KitsuneRae on Feb 5, 2015 20:45:03 GMT -5
thats a laptop brand? sky rim, league of legends, ect. maybe till the new sky rim comes out for ps4 Yep. Eeeew at rpg on console. What are you willing to spend? 300 maybe |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 5, 2015 21:54:12 GMT -5
Yep. Eeeew at rpg on console. What are you willing to spend? 300 maybe Oh well your choices will be limited for that level of power at a low priced laptop. You'll be able to get something standard at best. |
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Post by Maulen on Feb 6, 2015 4:43:51 GMT -5
What kind of laptop would you suggest for me to use for drawing on the computer as well as graphic design? This is actually depends on the program of your choice. but here's a little something to recommend. get something with these specs: RAM: Something with 4gb ram or higher. If you want to work with multiple programs open at the same time, you might want to grab 8gb. 16gb is overkill and almost useless in my opinion, I have it and I think it's a waste. Graphics Card: I think anything from 1 or 2gb ddr3 will do. but it's always good to get something better because it will never go to waste. if you have the budget, I suggest to focus to something good like 2gb ddr5, because new programs nowadays requires more and more powerful rendering machine and increasing year after year. Especially photoshop, it has 3d features now. you'll never be able to use it properly with good graphics card. Processor: i-3 is good, i-5 is great, i-7 is really great but you won't need as much speed. just get i-5 give the extra money to graphics card. Storage: you're gonna need a lot of storage. source files are ridiculously heavy. I'm not gonna recommend any AMD models, I have quite bad experience with them but that's just my experience, doesn't mean it'll happen to every person who tries it. How about post the model of the laptop of your liking, and we'll tell you what we think. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 6, 2015 4:46:35 GMT -5
What kind of laptop would you suggest for me to use for drawing on the computer as well as graphic design? This is actually depends on the program of your choice. but here's a little something to recommend. get something with these specs: RAM: Something with 4gb ram or higher. If you want to work with multiple programs open at the same time, you might want to grab 8gb. 16gb is overkill and almost useless in my opinion, I have it and I think it's a waste. Graphics Card: I think anything from 1 or 2gb ddr3 will do. but it's always good to get something better because it will never go to waste. if you have the budget, I suggest to focus to something good like 2gb ddr5, because new programs nowadays requires more and more powerful rendering machine and increasing year after year. Especially photoshop, it has 3d features now. you'll never be able to use it properly with good graphics card. Processor: i-3 is good, i-5 is great, i-7 is really great but you won't need as much speed. just get i-5 give the extra money to graphics card. Storage: you're gonna need a lot of storage. source files are ridiculously heavy. I'm not gonna recommend any AMD models, I have quite bad experience with them but that's just my experience, doesn't mean it'll happen to every person who tries it. How about post the model of the laptop of your liking, and we'll tell you what we think. Would she be able to get that on $300? I know i7's tend to be more important with cpu intensive applications, but I know I could run my programs on my older setup before I got the i7. I think she'll be able to get the ram and an ok processor, but a good graphics card is going to be tough on that budget. It'll almost certainly be integrated (maybe she could find a used one)? |
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Post by Maulen on Feb 6, 2015 5:16:27 GMT -5
Would she be able to get that on $300?
I know i7's tend to be more important with cpu intensive applications, but I know I could run my programs on my older setup before I got the i7.
I think she'll be able to get the ram and an ok processor, but a good graphics card is going to be tough on that budget. It'll almost certainly be integrated (maybe she could find a used one)?
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Oh, I didn't notice the budget is 300, pardon.
1gb ddr3 for graphics card then, an i-3 processor, and 4 gb ram, still possible for 300 budget but it's gonna be hard.
i-7 is great but I think it cost 60-70% of her budget alone. buying used one is also good idea.
back in the day, I use a laptop with dual core processor, 1gb video card memory, 2gb ram. My standards are low, and it works perfect for me. but I use adobe CS3's that time, it's far more light compare to Photoshop CS6 or CC. I don't know if it can manage today's programs.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 6, 2015 5:52:35 GMT -5
Would she be able to get that on $300?
I know i7's tend to be more important with cpu intensive applications, but I know I could run my programs on my older setup before I got the i7.
I think she'll be able to get the ram and an ok processor, but a good graphics card is going to be tough on that budget. It'll almost certainly be integrated (maybe she could find a used one)?--------------------- Oh, I didn't notice the budget is 300, pardon. 1gb ddr3 for graphics card then, an i-3 processor, and 4 gb ram, still possible for 300 budget but it's gonna be hard. i-7 is great but I think it cost 60-70% of her budget alone. buying used one is also good idea. back in the day, I use a laptop with dual core processor, 1gb video card memory, 2gb ram. My standards are low, and it works perfect for me. but I use adobe CS3's that time, it's far more light compare to Photoshop CS6 or CC. I don't know if it can manage today's programs. I've used image programs on my old PC's and never had a problem. Most non game type applications tend to be CPU heavy, I don't see much about graphics needing to be strong, so she might be ok. Here are the system requirements: helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/system-requirements.htmlPhotoshop CS6 system requirements
Windows
Intel® Pentium® 4 or AMD Athlon® 64 processor
Microsoft® Windows® XP with Service Pack 3 orMicrosoft Windows 7 with Service Pack 1. Adobe® Creative Suite® 5.5 and CS6 applications also support Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. See the CS6 FAQ for more information about Windows 8 support.*
1 GB of RAM
1 GB of available hard-disk space for installation; additional free space required during installation (cannot install on removable flash storage devices)
1024 x 768 display (1280 x 800 recommended) with 16-bit color and 512 MB (1 GB recommended) of VRAM
OpenGL 2.0–capable system
DVD-ROM drive
This software doesn't operate without activation. Broadband Internet connection and registration are required for software activation, validation of subscriptions, and access to online services.
† Phone activation is not available.
Mac OS
Multicore Intel processor with 64-bit support
Mac OS X v10.6.8 or v10.7. Adobe Creative Suite 3, 4, 5, CS5.5, and CS6 applications support Mac OS X v10.8 or v10.9 when installed on Intel-based systems.**
1 GB of RAM
2 GB of available hard-disk space for installation; additional free space required during installation (cannot install on a volume that uses a case-sensitive file system or on removable flash storage devices)
1024 x 768 display (1280 x 800 recommended) with 16-bit color and 512 MB (1 GB recommended) of VRAM
OpenGL 2.0–capable system
DVD-ROM drive
This software doesn't operate without activation. Broadband Internet connection and registration are required for software activation, validation of subscriptions, and access to online services.
† Phone activation is not available.Photoshop CC 2014 system requirements and language versions
Windows
Intel® Pentium® 4 or AMD Athlon® 64 processor (2 GHz or faster)
Microsoft® Windows® 7 with Service Pack 1, Windows 8, or Windows 8.1
2 GB of RAM (8 GB recommended)
2 GB of available hard-disk space for installation; additional free space required during installation (cannot install on removable flash storage devices)
1024x768 display (1280x800 recommended) with 16-bit color and 512 MB of VRAM (1 GB recommended)**
OpenGL 2.0–capable system
Internet connection and registration are necessary for required software activation, validation of subscriptions, and access to online services.*
Mac OS
Multicore Intel processor with 64-bit support
Mac OS X v10.7, v10.8, v10.9, or v10.10
2 GB of RAM (8 GB recommended)
3.2 GB of available hard-disk space for installation; additional free space required during installation (cannot install on a volume that uses a case-sensitive file system or on removable flash storage devices)
1024x768 display (1280x800 recommended) with 16-bit color and 512 MB of VRAM (1 GB recommended)**
OpenGL 2.0–capable system
Internet connection and registration are necessary for required software activation, membership validation, and access to online services.*
* Video features are not supported on 32-bit Windows systems.
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Post by Maulen on Feb 6, 2015 7:14:54 GMT -5
I agree with you, you are right.
she'll be fine.
That requirement sure is almost unbelievable. No, this is just me. I tried it installing on a computer slightly better than that requirements. it works, but umm.. you gotta have a lot of patience.
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 6, 2015 8:38:24 GMT -5
She'll get it.
Do you have a laptop now Rae?
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Post by KitsuneRae on Feb 6, 2015 11:34:06 GMT -5
She'll get it. Do you have a laptop now Rae? Yeah a dell inspiron but its really slow. I have the older version tho. I could use pc and laptop i just need to know what to get in them. I prefer windows 7. I dont like windows 8 lol |
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Post by Maulen on Feb 6, 2015 11:54:00 GMT -5
Just get a laptop with good processor, the rest of the build should be ok. nobody builds a laptop with just good processor and the rest is crap.
i-3 or i-5.
I also don't like windows 8.
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Post by KitsuneRae on Feb 6, 2015 12:35:30 GMT -5
Just get a laptop with good processor, the rest of the build should be ok. nobody builds a laptop with just good processor and the rest is crap. i-3 or i-5. I also don't like windows 8. Okay put laptop specs here Laptop: then pc specs here PC: |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 6, 2015 12:45:50 GMT -5
She'll get it. Do you have a laptop now Rae? Yeah a dell inspiron but its really slow. I have the older version tho. I could use pc and laptop i just need to know what to get in them. I prefer windows 7. I dont like windows 8 lol Me either, especially not for gaming and everything else. I guess an upgrade couldn't hurt too much. |
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Post by magicattack on Feb 6, 2015 12:58:39 GMT -5
Generally a desktop provides a better bang for the buck vs a laptop. Especially if you build it yourself.
With that being said, at that price point if portability is a must then I would suggest used.
I would advise a few generations old i5. i7 would be better.
4gb ram is ok, 8 is better.
Is this something that you would be looking to purchase from eBay, craigslist, or somewhere else?
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 6, 2015 13:07:02 GMT -5
Generally a desktop provides a better bang for the buck vs a laptop. Especially if you build it yourself. With that being said, at that price point if portability is a must then I would suggest used. I would advise a few generations old i5. i7 would be better. 4gb ram is ok, 8 is better. Is this something that you would be looking to purchase from eBay, craigslist, or somewhere else? If you're buying something really cheap and low end then laptops tend to edge out terms of costs since everything comes together and the most pricey part is the screen. For a desktop you end up having several parts and it costs more at the super low end, plus you can't move and I imagine since she's a student she wants to get around and not be stuck around her house. For very casual users I'd go laptop hands down. Unless she's enthusiast gamer who wants to game on a desktop and wants to save a few bucks I'd say no to a desktop in this situation. Even then she'd have to get a tablet or mobile device to make up for the lack of portability and if she's only spending $300 she'd be shelling out twice IMO. If Kitsune trusts used she could try that avenue. Also some stores have clearance prices on new laptops that are going out of date. My mom bought an Asus with an i7, touch screen, 8 gb ram, and a gtx 740 m for around $500 from Sams. It was on clearance since they were restocking with new stuff, sometimes you can find refurbished cheap as well. I meant to mention that earlier but it slipped my mind. |
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Post by magicattack on Feb 6, 2015 13:17:58 GMT -5
Generally a desktop provides a better bang for the buck vs a laptop. Especially if you build it yourself. With that being said, at that price point if portability is a must then I would suggest used. I would advise a few generations old i5. i7 would be better. 4gb ram is ok, 8 is better. Is this something that you would be looking to purchase from eBay, craigslist, or somewhere else? If you're buying something really cheap and low end then laptops tend to edge out terms of costs since everything comes together and the most pricey part is the screen. For a desktop you end up having several parts and it costs more at the super low end, plus you can't move and I imagine since she's a student she wants to get around and not be stuck around her house. For very casual users I'd go laptop hands down. Unless she's enthusiast gamer who wants to game on a desktop and wants to save a few bucks I'd say no to a desktop in this situation. Even then she'd have to get a tablet or mobile device to make up for the lack of portability and if she's only spending $300 she'd be shelling out twice IMO. If Kitsune trusts used she could try that avenue. Also some stores have clearance prices on new laptops that are going out of date. My mom bought an Asus with an i7, touch screen, 8 gb ram, and a gtx 740 m for around $500 from Sams. It was on clearance since they were restocking with new stuff, sometimes you can find refurbished cheap as well. I meant to mention that earlier but it slipped my mind. Ok. So for 300, what is your suggestion then for a brand new laptop? |
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Post by KitsuneRae on Feb 6, 2015 13:19:38 GMT -5
Generally a desktop provides a better bang for the buck vs a laptop. Especially if you build it yourself. With that being said, at that price point if portability is a must then I would suggest used. I would advise a few generations old i5. i7 would be better. 4gb ram is ok, 8 is better. Is this something that you would be looking to purchase from eBay, craigslist, or somewhere else? If you're buying something really cheap and low end then laptops tend to edge out terms of costs since everything comes together and the most pricey part is the screen. For a desktop you end up having several parts and it costs more at the super low end, plus you can't move and I imagine since she's a student she wants to get around and not be stuck around her house. For very casual users I'd go laptop hands down. Unless she's enthusiast gamer who wants to game on a desktop and wants to save a few bucks I'd say no to a desktop in this situation. Even then she'd have to get a tablet or mobile device to make up for the lack of portability and if she's only spending $300 she'd be shelling out twice IMO. If Kitsune trusts used she could try that avenue. Also some stores have clearance prices on new laptops that are going out of date. My mom bought an Asus with an i7, touch screen, 8 gb ram, and a gtx 740 m for around $500 from Sams. It was on clearance since they were restocking with new stuff, sometimes you can find refurbished cheap as well. I meant to mention that earlier but it slipped my mind. Okay put laptop specs here Laptop: then pc specs here PC: |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 6, 2015 14:07:14 GMT -5
If you're buying something really cheap and low end then laptops tend to edge out terms of costs since everything comes together and the most pricey part is the screen. For a desktop you end up having several parts and it costs more at the super low end, plus you can't move and I imagine since she's a student she wants to get around and not be stuck around her house. For very casual users I'd go laptop hands down. Unless she's enthusiast gamer who wants to game on a desktop and wants to save a few bucks I'd say no to a desktop in this situation. Even then she'd have to get a tablet or mobile device to make up for the lack of portability and if she's only spending $300 she'd be shelling out twice IMO. If Kitsune trusts used she could try that avenue. Also some stores have clearance prices on new laptops that are going out of date. My mom bought an Asus with an i7, touch screen, 8 gb ram, and a gtx 740 m for around $500 from Sams. It was on clearance since they were restocking with new stuff, sometimes you can find refurbished cheap as well. I meant to mention that earlier but it slipped my mind. Okay put laptop specs here Laptop: then pc specs here PC: I'd say for the best possible deal you should go refurbished or clearance and find the best stuff, but if you're just buying flat out new it depends on what you're doing on photoshop. $300 is really stretching it, and you will have to sacrifice something. You won't be gaming on it either besides minesweeper or solitare, lol. The bare minimal you need is 1GB of ram with 1 GB of storage with 512 mb of v ram. If you're doing basic stuff that's fine. If you want to do higher end stuff you'll need more power. I think the biggest hurdle for you to bypass is the processor just being flat out too weak. I've seen some multi core ones but then you need more storage. I'm still searching. |
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 6, 2015 15:00:26 GMT -5
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Post by The Big Daddy C-Master on Feb 6, 2015 15:01:46 GMT -5
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Post by magicattack on Feb 6, 2015 15:06:27 GMT -5
I see a few refurbished i7 laptops with decent low end grafx cards on eBay. A few generations old, only 4gb ram and 500gb hard drive.
But c says you can do better new, so I will be interested to see the item.
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