Salt water croc. VS a great while shark

[kuwabara]

which animal wins?

[newjak]

Sharks faster in the open waters therefore should be able to get the first attack in which is all the great white should need.

[kuwabara]

newjak said:

Sharks faster in the open waters therefore should be able to get the first attack in which is all the great white should need.

your greatly mistaken. The shark will have a far ahrd time pericing the crocs armor body. not to mention the croc on average is as large if not bigger then great whites. also crocs can swimm almost as fast as great whites and can do spinns to avoid injury unlike the shark.

[Badabing]

A Great White will pwn a Croc. Faster, stronger and much larger.

[newjak]

kuwabara said:

newjak said:

Sharks faster in the open waters therefore should be able to get the first attack in which is all the great white should need.

your greatly mistaken. The shark will have a far ahrd time pericing the crocs armor body. not to mention the croc on average is as large if not bigger then great whites. also crocs can swimm almost as fast as great whites and can do spinns to avoid injury unlike the shark.

Croc's skin isn't that tough and a Shark's razor sharp teeth would have no problem peircing the hide.

The key point is almost as fast plus design plays a key role. Sharks are biult for pure under water manuverability and attack. They also have better detection abilities under water as well.

The croc has no real advantage in this fight.

[kuwabara]

badabing said:

A Great White will pwn a Croc. Faster, stronger and much larger.

You do realize a salter water croc. is about 22 feet on average which is larger then even a big great white. a large salt water croc can be over 30 feet. also a croc would have the advtange in strength is is close to if not as fast

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Great Whites have some serious bite pressure and skin that would cut you if you touch it, they aren't to be underestimated.

[swebum]

The Shark WTFPWNS the croc.

[MadMel]

im having a hard time deciding..im an aussie, and ive seen how massive salties are..the largest ive seen is over 30 ft..i reckon if the salty got a bite in on the tail, one death roll thingy will snap the shark's spine..i cant remember if the shark has bone or cartalidge :\
id' say tie, or at the most shark 6/10..

[Psyquis52]

The Great white have the strongest jaws in the world
The Hyena has the second
Tasmanian Devil the third
Crocodile fourth

[Badabing]

Badabing the 5th. #evillaughsmil#

[EsteemedLeader©]

The croc has better technique. The shark will bite and flail, but the croc will latch and death roll. But that's not the reason the croc wins. The croc can remain motionless in the water. This will render it fairly invisible to the shark's Lorenzini(sp?). The shark will go to inspect the floating thing, and WHAM! Shark won't even see it coming.

[Psyquis52]

psyquis52 said:

The Great white have the strongest jaws in the world
The Hyena has the second
Tasmanian Devil the third
Crocodile fourth

Btw - I haven't actually made up my mind yet.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

I've seen Crocodiles eaten by Anaconda's, that is a bit off topic, Crocs are strong and Sneaky, but I don't think they're winning a direct battle with a Great White.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

Great Whites have some serious bite pressure and skin that would cut you if you touch it, they aren't to be underestimated.

Im not under estimating any thing. croc bite pressure is strong as hell not to mention a salt water croc has taken a shot gun bullet close range and was quite all right

[kuwabara]

admin said:

I've seen Crocodiles eaten by Anaconda's, that is a bit off topic, Crocs are strong and Sneaky, but I don't think they're winning a direct battle with a Great White.

you do realize those are not croc?. They were most likly the smallest of the croc family which actaully are nto crocs at all and are a close realitive, but much smaller.


You do realize that salt water crocs are more then twice the size of even large crocs.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sharks have insane durability and a massive weight and size advantage. Unlike Dolphins whom are intelligent enough to kill the shark, crocs use stealth and retreat when it's against them. They are slower and weaker than a GW.

If these were humans and they used different tactics I would change my mind, but for the most part with animals, the physical superior one wins.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

Sharks have insane durability and a massive weight and size advantage. Unlike Dolphins whom are intelligent enough to kill the shark, crocs use stealth and retreat when it's against them. They are slower and weaker than a GW.

If these were humans and they used different tactics I would change my mind, but for the most part with animals, the physical superior one wins.

salt water croc durability is greater then that of a great whilte shark that nto debatable, but shark are still masivly durable. I will look it up if im not mistaken the salt water croc is the heavier of the two. some of there skeleton of there heads have weighted 500 pounds and that just there skull.
salt water croc average size si 22 feet an average greta white is 14 to 16 feet. salt water crocs are larger by a could margin. great whites really have no physical advantage. great weights can in quick burst of speed reach 35 to 40 miles an hour wich is with in range of what a salter water croc can do. also salt wtere crocs manuaverabilty is far greater then that of a great white who once in motion at full speed and not change there course unless they slow down and even then there ability to turn and such is still dwarfed by a salt water croc.

[Psyquis52]

The weight rather depends on exactly what the shark had eaten.

I've seen sharks eat quite a bit of junk.

So let's say the shark eats about a ton of lead weights. #ignored7fa#

[kuwabara]

psyquis52 said:

The weight rather depends on exactly what the shark had eaten.

I've seen sharks eat quite a bit of junk.

So let's say the shark eats about a ton of lead weights. #ignored7fa#

The type of shark you are refearing to is the tiger shark. great whites are no know for eating junk becuase there is no junk around there habitat not to mention they are not nearly as agressive as tiger sharks and there behavoir differs dramaticly

[newjak]

Croc's durability really isn't that much better because I think a Great Whites skin is in fact thicker.

Shark's do weigh more I think a large 25 foot great white can weight almost a ton.

Not sure though but it is no less then a half ton. Why because Sharks are pure under water animals and therefore have less constraints when faced with graity because of the water.

Next a Great White shark's latch ad tear techinque is better than the Croc's death roll because the Croc's death roll requires that the animal can drown. The Shark's attack is actually going to rip chunks out which is what it is designed to do. A croc is designed to get a hold and then drown a victim if its intial bite doesn't kill.

But overall a shark wins becuase it is more adept at attacking in the water.

crocs still have to keep there eyes and nostrils outside of water to see its prey thats why they are located close to the top of the head underwater these senses become alot more blured especially against a shak whos senses are adapted to under water hunting.

[EsteemedLeader©]

But the death roll can snap bones like twigs. Couple that with the fact that sharks have cartilaginous skeletons and it's not looking good for the shark.

[Psyquis52]

kuwabara said:

The type of shark you are refearing to is the tiger shark. great whites are no know for eating junk becuase there is no junk around there habitat not to mention they are not nearly as agressive as tiger sharks and there behavoir differs dramaticly

I was messing around.

[bigbran]

This has been done on the animal vs show. (forget the name) The Shark won.

admin said:

I've seen Crocodiles eaten by Anaconda's, that is a bit off topic, Crocs are strong and Sneaky, but I don't think they're winning a direct battle with a Great White.

I seen a Tiger kill a croc.

[kuwabara]

newjak said:

Croc's durability really isn't that much better because I think a Great Whites skin is in fact thicker. .

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That may be the case, but salt water crocs are still more durable and the only part of the croc were the great white can get through is the under belly which will be extremely hard to get at. I croc ability to spin and dodge attack is also far greater then that of great white shark which is made for quick burst of energy in the same direction.

newjak said:

Shark's do weigh more I think a large 25 foot great white can weight almost a ton. .

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True great white averagely weight more then salt water crocs. How ever they are averagely not as long or big.

newjak said:

Next a Great White shark's latch ad tear techinque is better than the Croc's death roll because the Croc's death roll requires that the animal can drown.

The death roll is actually the perfect technique for this battle. If the shark is spun around and is slipp up side down in the water it will die. Also the croc will be taking fins with it as well. The croc will be a much harder target to hit due to the abilities to maneuver better

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newjak said:

The Shark's attack is actually going to rip chunks out which is what it is designed to do. .

It is very unlikely the shark get the bites in due to the crocs ability to dodge and it natural durability will take care of any minor bites.

newjak said:

A croc is designed to get a hold and then drown a victim if its intial bite doesn't kill. .

True, but also not true. The croc does get a hold of an enemy and spins to drown, but also to ripp apart the creature and disorient it.

newjak said:

But overall a shark wins becuase it is more adept at attacking in the water. .

Not really since it can’t maneuver any were near as well nor can it stop moving.

newjak said:

crocs still have to keep there eyes and nostrils outside of water to see its prey thats why they are located close to the top of the head underwater these senses become alot more blured especially against a shak whos senses are adapted to under water hunting.

Not true. The croc senses work better well in the water then out and due to the salt water croc constant time in the water they are very adapted to under water hunting and combat.

[kuwabara]

bigbran said:

This has been done on the animal vs show. (forget the name) The Shark won.

admin said:

I've seen Crocodiles eaten by Anaconda's, that is a bit off topic, Crocs are strong and Sneaky, but I don't think they're winning a direct battle with a Great White.

I seen a Tiger kill a croc.

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5121663004128520985&q=tiger+vs+crocodile&hl=en

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

So who are you saying wins K? Just to get back on the same page.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

So who are you saying wins K? Just to get back on the same page.

onte descovery channle had the great whiting winning how ever the croc totaly out fought the great white and the great white one becuase the croc need air how ever that made no sense since salt water crocs can hold there breath for 2 hours and the fight only last 10 minuts.



so i say the croc due to durability and manuaverablity

[EsteemedLeader©]

Well how deep is the water? Because in open water the great white would have an advantage, but if the water is like 100 feet deep the croc can put himself on the bottom and only have to defend from one side.

[kuwabara]

esteemedleader said:

Well how deep is the water? Because in open water the great white would have an advantage, but if the water is like 100 feet deep the croc can put himself on the bottom and only have to defend from one side.

why would the croc be on the defensive? it the larger of the two