Kof XIV is here! With 3d models.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

So the trailer for Kof XIV was just revealed. It's going to be 3d.

What are your thoughts? The title is wrong on the video btw. It's Kof XIV.




Kyo looks much different and younger now. Didn't even recognize it was him.

[JACK-2]

How do you feel about it being 3D? I figured it was only a matter of time since pure 2-D is dead. It's either 3-D or 3-D on a 2-D plane.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Well I knew that was coming a long time ago. Companies can't afford to do 2d sprites nowadays, especially SNK being low on money quite often, though I'm not sure how the acqusition has affected its resources.

That said I prefer 2d sprites for 2d games, but if this means we get more games, more characters, and better movesets than we got in XIII than sign me up. XIII had a lot of good things about it, but you can tell they had to cut many things to keep costs low, despite the quality. Characters had like 25 moves in Kof 2002 and like 8-10 moves in Kof XIII. Look at Maxima for instance.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Some more pics:

[WarMachineRhodey]

I saw in an article that it's going to be Ps4 only. I'm not buying any of the current gen consoles so if it doesn't come to pc then I may never play it.

Hmm the graphics/art don't impress me like ggxrd has done. Ggxrd has set the bar pretty high.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 15, 2015 11:10:13 GMT -5 WarMachineRhodey said:

I saw in an article that it's going to be Ps4 only. I'm not buying any of the current gen consoles so if it doesn't come to pc then I may never play it.

Hmm the graphics/art don't impress me like ggxrd has done. Ggxrd has set the bar pretty high.

Yea it will suck without a PC port, especially when we're getting crossplay more and more. I'm PC only now.

Xrd had hyped graphics, but they were good. I wish they went that route but it's still early so we'll have to see how it goes.

[JACK-2]

I don't like the models either. Here's hoping it's not maximum impact

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 15, 2015 11:38:42 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

I don't like the models either. Here's hoping it's not maximum impact

What did you think about it gameplay wise?

[WarMachineRhodey]

Sept 15, 2015 11:19:57 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Sept 15, 2015 11:10:13 GMT -5 WarMachineRhodey said:

I saw in an article that it's going to be Ps4 only. I'm not buying any of the current gen consoles so if it doesn't come to pc then I may never play it.

Hmm the graphics/art don't impress me like ggxrd has done. Ggxrd has set the bar pretty high.

Yea it will suck without a PC port, especially when we're getting crossplay more and more. I'm PC only now.

Xrd had hyped graphics, but they were good. I wish they went that route but it's still early so we'll have to see how it goes.

Kof 13 on steam sold about 310,000 copies so im not sure how that stacked up to what snk's projected sales numbers were. That doesnt seem bad for a game that was on consoles only for a few years before it got to pc. Even kof 2002um sold about 30k copies on steam. There is a market on pc but im going to assume that maybe tgs might be a more console oriented convention so they wanted to focus on those users.

Snk could have reused the resources from 13/12 and just updated them so they would be in 1080p instead of 720p, do some other touch ups and draw some new ones for new chars/new or returning moves. I dont know how cost effective that would have been but it probably would have been better received than whats in the XIV trailer. Im glad kof/ snk is still alive though but i also dont want them to be just shoving out straight trash.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 15, 2015 11:40:15 GMT -5 WarMachineRhodey said:

Sept 15, 2015 11:19:57 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Yea it will suck without a PC port, especially when we're getting crossplay more and more. I'm PC only now.

Xrd had hyped graphics, but they were good. I wish they went that route but it's still early so we'll have to see how it goes.

Kof 13 on steam sold about 310,000 copies so im not sure how that stacked up to what snk's projected sales numbers were. That doesnt seem bad for a game that was on consoles only for a few years before it got to pc. Even kof 2002um sold about 30k copies on steam. There is a market on pc but im going to assume that maybe tgs might be a more console oriented convention so they wanted to focus on those users.

Snk could have reused the resources from 13/12 and just updated them so they would be in 1080p instead of 720p, do some other touch ups and draw some new ones for new chars/new or returning moves. I dont know how cost effective that would have been but it probably would have been better received than whats in the XIV trailer. Im glad kof/ snk is still alive though but i also dont want them to be just shoving out straight trash.

Well a lot of these companies seem to be going to PS4. Good system but having only one console and nothing else really shuts out a lot of players. PC version came out much later for KOf XIII after the console version was horrible netcode wise and after 12 was bad period. Compared to SFV which will have both at the same time, especially with crossplay. Arcsys is also focusing on the PC. PC games are cheaper to do than console games are, but there are going to be more console players.

I'm personally ready for something fresh and hope they move on to a new system. I don't see them redoing a bunch of attack animations + adding new characters. They'd probably add more characters with limited movesets, headswaps, and have the same touch of death mechanic. If going 3d means they can do more at a cheaper cost in the long run I think it's better.

It took many months just to do one character with the way they did it in XIII. It looked great but we also paid for it in other areas like the movesets.


The gameplay is #1 but I definitely hope the game looks better down the road.

[WarMachineRhodey]

Well i meant with reusing resources was to just reuse the sprites. I agree that a new gameplay system is going to be nice to see. 

offtopic: When i quoted your post C master the typing cursor was stuck in the quote box. I didn't know how to get it out so i had to just post without quoting.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 15, 2015 12:29:20 GMT -5 WarMachineRhodey said:

Well i meant with reusing resources was to just reuse the sprites. I agree that a new gameplay system is going to be nice to see. 

offtopic: When i quoted your post C master the typing cursor was stuck in the quote box. I didn't know how to get it out so i had to just post without quoting.

Yea I hear you. Don't get me wrong I prefer 2d any day.

Here's a post right from SRK.

"The sprites in KOF 13 were anything BUT great. They were straight out trash. That's why i only played that game for like a week.

And i never said that the current models shown in that teaser are great ones, do not take my words out of context.
They're definitely going to improve on them seeing the uproar, stop being a judgmental prick from the first fucking teaser that is about 5 SECONDS LONG...
Look at SFIV or SFV for great 3D model examples."

Weird. You mean you couldn't hit "create post"?

[WarMachineRhodey]

Sept 15, 2015 12:41:06 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Sept 15, 2015 12:29:20 GMT -5 WarMachineRhodey said:

Well i meant with reusing resources was to just reuse the sprites. I agree that a new gameplay system is going to be nice to see. 

offtopic: When i quoted your post C master the typing cursor was stuck in the quote box. I didn't know how to get it out so i had to just post without quoting.

Yea I hear you. Don't get me wrong I prefer 2d any day.

Here's a post right from SRK.

"The sprites in KOF 13 were anything BUT great. They were straight out trash. That's why i only played that game for like a week.

And i never said that the current models shown in that teaser are great ones, do not take my words out of context.
They're definitely going to improve on them seeing the uproar, stop being a judgmental prick from the first fucking teaser that is about 5 SECONDS LONG...
Look at SFIV or SFV for great 3D model examples."

Weird. You mean you couldn't hit "create post"?

That person who posted that on srk must be an 09er. sf4 is a bad example of great 3d models. Speaking of srk forums you now have to get a current member of the forum to invite you in order to join it.

I could create a post but the flashing txt line you see when typing was stuck in the quotation box.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 15, 2015 13:42:23 GMT -5 WarMachineRhodey said:

Sept 15, 2015 12:41:06 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Yea I hear you. Don't get me wrong I prefer 2d any day.

Here's a post right from SRK.

"The sprites in KOF 13 were anything BUT great. They were straight out trash. That's why i only played that game for like a week.

And i never said that the current models shown in that teaser are great ones, do not take my words out of context.
They're definitely going to improve on them seeing the uproar, stop being a judgmental prick from the first fucking teaser that is about 5 SECONDS LONG...
Look at SFIV or SFV for great 3D model examples."

Weird. You mean you couldn't hit "create post"?

That person who posted that on srk must be an 09er. sf4 is a bad example of great 3d models. Speaking of srk forums you now have to get a current member of the forum to invite you in order to join it.

I could create a post but the flashing txt line you see when typing was stuck in the quotation box.

These new kids like everything better just because it's 3d. He did say he was a 3d fighting game player though. I like 3d for 3d fighters but I prefer 2d for 2d games. Until they make spectacular models that can catch up with sprites that is.

They're too late on doing that at SRK. Already tons of morons and trolls there. Kind of weird they're trying to be exclusive now at that size. Ah well.

[WarMachineRhodey]

Sept 15, 2015 14:25:04 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Sept 15, 2015 13:42:23 GMT -5 WarMachineRhodey said:

That person who posted that on srk must be an 09er. sf4 is a bad example of great 3d models. Speaking of srk forums you now have to get a current member of the forum to invite you in order to join it.

I could create a post but the flashing txt line you see when typing was stuck in the quotation box.

These new kids like everything better just because it's 3d. He did say he was a 3d fighting game player though. I like 3d for 3d fighters but I prefer 2d for 2d games. Until they make spectacular models that can catch up with sprites that is.

They're too late on doing that at SRK. Already tons of morons and trolls there. Kind of weird they're trying to be exclusive now at that size. Ah well.

Oh i dug a little bit more to see why srk is invite only now and the reason being is because to reduce the number of bots registering. i guess captcha doenst work as well anymore.

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There isn't anything to look at yet gameplay wise :/ You can tell how early this is in development just by looking at the maiden masher shown. Its for sure better looking then usf4 atm and its probably not even 1% done. I'm gonna miss XIII art style so much..... Best looking 2d fighter ever made!

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

So do you prefer it to Xrd's style?

Sept 15, 2015 14:56:46 GMT -5 WarMachineRhodey said:

Sept 15, 2015 14:25:04 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

These new kids like everything better just because it's 3d. He did say he was a 3d fighting game player though. I like 3d for 3d fighters but I prefer 2d for 2d games. Until they make spectacular models that can catch up with sprites that is.

They're too late on doing that at SRK. Already tons of morons and trolls there. Kind of weird they're trying to be exclusive now at that size. Ah well.

Oh i dug a little bit more to see why srk is invite only now and the reason being is because to reduce the number of bots registering. i guess captcha doenst work as well anymore.

Ah, they got a lot of spammers? Makes sense I guess. Never heard of a forum having it that bad though.

[Great Dark Hero]

I knew the game was going to be in 3D...
I'm not really making a big deal about the 3D element or even the graphics themselves so far as this game is a blatant early display.
It seems like a lot of the characters may be sporting a new look, that which is okay. I cannot wait to see the female characters later on... I also hope that there is a bit more emphasis on neutral and ground-based normals like in 98 (I recall SNKP implying that they were trying to head this direction but I need to guidance. If anyone has insight, correct me if I am wrong about this). I also personally hope that Adelheid, Mary, Yamazaki, Geese, Shermie, Elisabeth, Vanessa, Lin and American Sports Team (PREFERABLY Heavy D!).... that also includes a handful of characters that kept making subtle appearances... like Ron for example. There are QUITE a lot of characters from the KOF franchise that I am curious about.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 15, 2015 18:57:41 GMT -5 Great Dark Hero said:

I knew the game was going to be in 3D...
I'm not really making a big deal about the 3D element or even the graphics themselves so far as this game is a blatant early display.
It seems like a lot of the characters may be sporting a new look, that which is okay. I cannot wait to see the female characters later on... I also hope that there is a bit more emphasis on neutral and ground-based normals like in 98 (I recall SNKP implying that they were trying to head this direction but I need to guidance. If anyone has insight, correct me if I am wrong about this). I also personally hope that Adelheid, Mary, Yamazaki, Geese, Shermie, Elisabeth, Vanessa, Lin and American Sports Team (PREFERABLY Heavy D!).... that also includes a handful of characters that kept making subtle appearances... like Ron for example. There are QUITE a lot of characters from the KOF franchise that I am curious about.

Not only a strong neutral game, but a game with some mobility and full movesets! I hope it's not gimmick heavy either. (No touch of death combos or anything like that). Strong normals and things like that are a must as well.

[Great Dark Hero]

Podcast from DC for those who are interested...
our conversations were pretty interesting to say the least.... and somewhat hilarious.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 18, 2015 20:17:02 GMT -5 Great Dark Hero said:

Podcast from DC for those who are interested...
our conversations were pretty interesting to say the least.... and somewhat hilarious.

I'm watching now. It'll take a bit though. 2:34:00 indeed.

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Sept 18, 2015 20:20:04 GMT -5 The Big Daddy C-Master said:

Sept 18, 2015 20:17:02 GMT -5 Great Dark Hero said:

Podcast from DC for those who are interested...
our conversations were pretty interesting to say the least.... and somewhat hilarious.

I'm watching now. It'll take a bit though. 2:34:00 indeed.

I watched a little bit of this earlier!! I love the how they discussed chris g. Literally 2 weeks ago someone said I played like chris g and I took it as a compliment. They said they meant it as an insult. Its crazy how much people underestimated his fundamentals. He beats pretty good players in tournaments all the time!

[HypahBomb]

Yeah..this is definitely very very rough, early footage of the game. I think it was a mistake showing it this raw. SFV looked a tiny bit off when it was announced but it wasn't THIS jarring. Kyo doesn't even look all that much like Kyo in the face, which is weird because he's one of KOF's poster boys.

It's just best to hold off on any real judgement until they have something to really show.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Sept 19, 2015 1:53:31 GMT -5 HypahBomb said:

Yeah..this is definitely very very rough, early footage of the game. I think it was a mistake showing it this raw. SFV looked a tiny bit off when it was announced but it wasn't THIS jarring. Kyo doesn't even look all that much like Kyo in the face, which is weird because he's one of KOF's poster boys.

It's just best to hold off on any real judgement until they have something to really show.

Yea I think the fact that Kyo looks so different is what hurt it. I didn't even recognize him at first. The rest of it looks like early PS3 footage. They'll have to spice it up a lot before it hit shelves. It says January and for PS4. I hope not though.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/oct/22/king-fighters-14-will-be-playable-first-time-playstation-experience-december/



The PlayStation Experience this year is shaping up to be a huge event. As we all know, the Capcom Cup is set to take place at the expo in San Francisco during the weekend of December 5-6.

Many of the latest PlayStation titles will be available for attendees to try out at the event, and today we received an early list revealing some of these games. According to PlayStation Blog, King of Fighters 14 will be playable for the first time at PlayStation Experience 2015.

Though SNK Playmore was purchased by Chinese company Leyou Millenium back in August, to much surprise Sony announced a new installment in the KoF series last month.

So far, all we've seen of King of Fighters 14 is its initial announcement trailer that featured a brief look at gameplay footage. Looks like we won't have to wait much longer to see more.

[Deleted]

This is way earlier then I expected to see actual game play. Happy I'm not a psycho fighting game player anymore; I'm no longer willing to throw away cash on a ps4 + stick for one game. Hope it goes well enough for a pc port though

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Oct 22, 2015 16:13:22 GMT -5 azik21 said:

This is way earlier then I expected to see actual game play. Happy I'm not a psycho fighting game player anymore; I'm no longer willing to throw away cash on a ps4 + stick for one game. Hope it goes well enough for a pc port though

I was just thinking the same thing. I never did all of that for one game, but I have no interest in getting a console. If it's not on PC, then ah well. I'll have to do without.

[JACK-2]

Still on one page? I guess Street Fighter V is fighter of this Generation?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Oct 26, 2015 12:20:16 GMT -5 JACK-2 said:

Still on one page? I guess Street Fighter V is fighter of this Generation?

We haven't gotten much news, while SFV gets news and articles like every day. Not to mention all of the idiots who contribute SJW material.

SFV is always going to be amongst the most popular no matter the quality.

[JACK-2]

True, So, PS4 only. How do you feel about it?