Wolverine?

[bigbran]

How do you feel about this character?
How do you feel about his current writing?
Do you like him better now, or when he was written back in the 80's/90's?
Is it the character that makes you mad, or the fanboys? (if you don't like him)
Is he overused in comics?
Where would you place him, in strength, skills, and such?
What is the attraction of this character?
Who do you think should be the limit, of who he should be able to beat?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

I feel he has great potential as a character, and he is almost as immersive as Spiderman if written correctly, he doesn't always have to be the good guy 100%, he can do some things that give him more character.

His current writing is like Superman's-based too much on his powers, back in the day he was more believeable as a peak human.

He is overexposed because he is popular, he appears in practically every xtitle ot get sales.


He's Peak in strength, Superhuman durability, excellent combat and tactical skills when applied.

He's hairy, that makes him irresistable.

lol, he can beat guys like Cap fine, but not Spiderman. It's hard to find a person he would simply tie against.

[newjak]

Wolverine was always Hero I liked and fascinated me.

He was really old but had no memory of who he really was and had gone through terrible things that no person should have to go through because people wanted to turn him into a living weapon.

There was such a great potential in that alone to be used.

But yeah then he started to get over used and the character asa whole died out and has become how bad Wolverine is and just basically he became Dirty Hairy.

I agree with CM on where he is physically.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Dirty Hairy?

[Psyquis52]

I actually like the idea of Wolverine.
It's a very sound concept, however, they've dropped the ball with him more than once.

He does get overexposure. Between having his own comic, being in X-men, and the New Avengers it was just too much. That's ridiculous.

I agree with CM on abilities but I don't think he can handle Captain A.

He could probably pull off a few wins but in the long run I think Cap has the upper hand. To each his own.

[Badabing]

I read Wolverine but I liked the character before he became invincible/immortal. IMO there is no reason for him to hang with the likes of Namor or even Spider-Man. I don't blame the fans but the writers. I still enjoy the character.

[EsteemedLeader©]

I admit that he IS above peak human in skills by continuity, but he SHOULDN'T be.

I don't like that he is considered a great fighter, because he charges and flails his claws. Not exactly an advanced tactic.

Cap would whoop his ass.

[Psyquis52]

esteemedleader said:

I admit that he IS above peak human in skills by continuity, but he SHOULDN'T be.

I don't like that he is considered a great fighter, because he charges and flails his claws. Not exactly an advanced tactic.

Cap would whoop his ass.

YES!!!

CAP ROCKS!!

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

haha, you've just said fighting words to some serious fanboys.

[bigbran]

admin said:

haha, you've just said fighting words to some serious fanboys.

I should link this thread to KMC...

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

It won't work with the spam filter there. Raz is a greedy man.

[bigbran]

*Damn no link to other forums*

Hey I got a question while your here.
How big is the limit on avatars?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

bigbran said:

*Damn no link to other forums*

Hey I got a question while your here.
How big is the limit on avatars?

100x100 I used the butt one but it stretched out...

[bigbran]

admin said:

bigbran said:

*Damn no link to other forums*

Hey I got a question while your here.
How big is the limit on avatars?

100x100 I used the butt one but it stretched out...

You mean the one that was my avatar?
I tried to use this one, but it didn't work.

Damn, it's not moving!

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

bigbran said:

admin said:

100x100 I used the butt one but it stretched out...

You mean the one that was my avatar?
I tried to use this one, but it didn't work.

Damn, it's not moving!

No img tags.

[bigbran]

admin said:

bigbran said:

You mean the one that was my avatar?
I tried to use this one, but it didn't work.

Damn, it's not moving!

No img tags.

Was do you mean?

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

bigbran said:

admin said:

No img tags.

Was do you mean?

Just post the url ;D

[bigbran]

admin said:

bigbran said:

Was do you mean?

Just post the url ;D

Ok, I was posting the whole image.
Thank you.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Yep, it's different here...

[kuwabara]

psyquis52 said:

He does get overexposure. .

You do realize batman, spiderman are both more exposed then him yet no one seems to have a problem with either. Capt is exposed almost as much as logan as well.

psyquis52 said:

Between having his own comic, being in X-men, and the New Avengers it was just too much. That's ridiculous. .

Both spiderman and batman have far more titles then that even with out issue with the teams they are on.

psyquis52 said:

I agree with CM on abilities but I don't think he can handle Captain A. .

This is one thing I can enevr understand about people who think capt will win. First off lets see the stats.
Strength logan listed at superhuman, capt listed at peak human
Durability Logan list at enhanced human and capts listed at peak human
Stamina logan list at superhuman and capts listed at peak human
Fighting skill there both listed at the same level.
Agility logans listed at superhuman levels and capt listed at peak human’
Reflex logans listed at superhuman and capts listed at peak human
Healing factor logan dwarfs capt about a million fold lol.
Experience logan dwarfs capt.
Sense logan dwarfs capt.
How can you say capt wins? He hold nto such advantage for this fight and it at a disadvantage in every area. I ridiculous how many people say capt wins? What capt going to do to put down logan?

psyquis52 said:

He could probably pull off a few wins but in the long run I think Cap has the upper hand. To each his own.

Long run? Please are you serous? When has capt ever not slept or eat for over a month? Not to mention one stab and capt done for.

badabing said:

I read Wolverine but I liked the character before he became invincible/immortal. IMO there is no reason for him to hang with the likes of Namor or even Spider-Man. .

You do realize he been hanging with them since the 90’s if not before. Also you do realize one of his first issues of his own run was him beating tiger shark. Another one of one of his first runs was wolverine fighting Ba’al

esteemedleader said:

I admit that he IS above peak human in skills by continuity, but he SHOULDN'T be. .

Why this? He been written above human since his first solo series. Not to mention Logan was originally designed to be at Spiderman level of strength, but then his character was re done. This was all explained in the back of x-men the ultimate guide.

esteemedleader said:

I don't like that he is considered a great fighter, because he charges and flails his claws. Not exactly an advanced tactic. .

Such ignorance’s is quite amazing. Please go read more then one appearance of Logan before speaking that like you saying superman does not move at super speeds just because in the issue you read he did not use his speed.

esteemedleader said:

Cap would whoop his ass.

Even though logan hold every advantage and could end Capt in one it yet Capt really has no way of KOing logan.

bigbran said:

How do you feel about this character?

I like him

bigbran said:

How do you feel about his current writing?

I enjoy there work.

bigbran said:

Do you like him better now, or when he was written back in the 80's/90's?

About the same .

bigbran said:

Where would you place him, in strength, skills, and such?

Beyond human like he been listed since the second hand book he was in.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

kuwabara said:

psyquis52 said:

He does get overexposure. .

You do realize batman, spiderman are both more exposed then him yet no one seems to have a problem with either. Capt is exposed almost as much as logan as well.


Both spiderman and batman have far more titles then that even with out issue with the teams they are on.


This is one thing I can enevr understand about people who think capt will win. First off lets see the stats.
Strength logan listed at superhuman, capt listed at peak human
Durability Logan list at enhanced human and capts listed at peak human
Stamina logan list at superhuman and capts listed at peak human
Fighting skill there both listed at the same level.
Agility logans listed at superhuman levels and capt listed at peak human’
Reflex logans listed at superhuman and capts listed at peak human
Healing factor logan dwarfs capt about a million fold lol.
Experience logan dwarfs capt.
Sense logan dwarfs capt.
How can you say capt wins? He hold nto such advantage for this fight and it at a disadvantage in every area. I ridiculous how many people say capt wins? What capt going to do to put down logan?


Long run? Please are you serous? When has capt ever not slept or eat for over a month? Not to mention one stab and capt done for.



You do realize he been hanging with them since the 90’s if not before. Also you do realize one of his first issues of his own run was him beating tiger shark. Another one of one of his first runs was wolverine fighting Ba’al




Why this? He been written above human since his first solo series. Not to mention Logan was originally designed to be at Spiderman level of strength, but then his character was re done. This was all explained in the back of x-men the ultimate guide.


Such ignorance’s is quite amazing. Please go read more then one appearance of Logan before speaking that like you saying superman does not move at super speeds just because in the issue you read he did not use his speed.


Even though logan hold every advantage and could end Capt in one it yet Capt really has no way of KOing logan.



I like him


I enjoy there work.


About the same .

bigbran said:

Where would you place him, in strength, skills, and such?

Beyond human like he been listed since the second hand book he was in.

Batman is overexposed, Spiderman has had his own title since his debut, he was never part of a team until now. Wolverine is around in every X comic just to milk sales, so yes he is exposed a bit too much. Spiderman hasn't had any massive fluctuation in press for awhile, he's usually used to give other characters good light, Wolverine is used to make Wolverine look good. He is excellent when he is shown not as often, and the writers use writing to make other mutants look better.. There's nothing wrong with him there, but he seems out of place sometimes IMO.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

kuwabara said:

You do realize batman, spiderman are both more exposed then him yet no one seems to have a problem with either. Capt is exposed almost as much as logan as well.


Both spiderman and batman have far more titles then that even with out issue with the teams they are on.


This is one thing I can enevr understand about people who think capt will win. First off lets see the stats.
Strength logan listed at superhuman, capt listed at peak human
Durability Logan list at enhanced human and capts listed at peak human
Stamina logan list at superhuman and capts listed at peak human
Fighting skill there both listed at the same level.
Agility logans listed at superhuman levels and capt listed at peak human’
Reflex logans listed at superhuman and capts listed at peak human
Healing factor logan dwarfs capt about a million fold lol.
Experience logan dwarfs capt.
Sense logan dwarfs capt.
How can you say capt wins? He hold nto such advantage for this fight and it at a disadvantage in every area. I ridiculous how many people say capt wins? What capt going to do to put down logan?


Long run? Please are you serous? When has capt ever not slept or eat for over a month? Not to mention one stab and capt done for.



You do realize he been hanging with them since the 90’s if not before. Also you do realize one of his first issues of his own run was him beating tiger shark. Another one of one of his first runs was wolverine fighting Ba’al




Why this? He been written above human since his first solo series. Not to mention Logan was originally designed to be at Spiderman level of strength, but then his character was re done. This was all explained in the back of x-men the ultimate guide.


Such ignorance’s is quite amazing. Please go read more then one appearance of Logan before speaking that like you saying superman does not move at super speeds just because in the issue you read he did not use his speed.


Even though logan hold every advantage and could end Capt in one it yet Capt really has no way of KOing logan.



I like him


I enjoy there work.


About the same .


Beyond human like he been listed since the second hand book he was in.

Batman is overexposed, Spiderman has had his own title since his debut, he was never part of a team until now. Wolverine is around in every comic just to milk sales, so yes he is exposed a bit too much. Spiderman hasn't had any massive fluctuation in press for awhile, he's usually used to give other characters good light, Wolverine is used to make Wolverine look good.

good look at who makes more money for marvel logan or spiderman. spiderman is the cash cow not logan. spiderman has more titles then logan. Hell he guest stars in more aperances on average then logan as well. Spiderman is the most over exposed character in marvel I am sorry C-master but fact is fact spiderman has never under selled to wolverine ever. Spiderman has more titles and makes far more money for marvel people tend to like spiderman more and love to act as if logan is the cash cow when in fact it is spiderman then logan then capt and so on.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Of course, Spiderman is the most popular Comic Character ever. But he has been for a long time, so that isn't overexposure. Overexposure amounts to someone getting massive amounts of exposure for their status. Wolverine isn't on the same level of overall status and recognizability as Spiderman for all ages of people. Wolverine is in several x titles this month, and some just seem out of place. He's actually better by himself.

It would be like a Spiderman movie vs a wolverine one, Spiderman has done his thing for a long time, but people would see a Wolverine movie as an attempt just to make money from the fans and nothing else.

Logan got popular much later and has been there for a much shorter time.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

Of course, Spiderman is the most popular Comic Character ever. But he has been for a long time, so that isn't overexposure. Overexposure amounts to someone getting massive amounts of exposure for their status. Wolverine isn't on the same level of overall status and recognizability as Spiderman for all ages of people. Wolverine is in several x titles this month, and some just seem out of place. He's actually better by himself.

It would be like a Spiderman movie vs a wolverine one, Spiderman has done his thing for a long time, but people would see a Wolverine movie as an attempt just to make money from the fans and nothing else.

Logan got popular much later and has been there for a much shorter time.

that still does not make logan more over exposed it has nothing to do with time it has to be with who is shown more in comic and titles which spiderman takes the cake. If any thing logan been less exposed as of late he had to of his constant aperances taken away while spiderman was add to another titles such as civil war in which case logan has yet to show up.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

But it takes more exposure for Spiderman to be overexposed than it would Logan. Spiderman gives other characters opportunities to shine in his book, Logan usually takes the whole floor more or less.

It's like arguing Superman overexposed, he's well received and been around for awhile, while he can be overexposed, he will always have his comics. Spiderman hasn't had a massive change in his fans, he's more consistent than Logan.

[kuwabara]

admin said:

But it takes more exposure for Spiderman to be overexposed than it would Logan. Spiderman gives other characters opportunities to shine in his book, Logan usually takes the whole floor more or less.

It's like arguing Superman overexposed, he's well received and been around for awhile, while he can be overexposed, he will always have his comics. Spiderman hasn't had a massive change in his fans, he's more consistent than Logan.

true how ever have you notice logan hardly apearces in x-men comics any more and the one series he does apeare in the writter him self has admitted he has no diea how to right logan and uses him as comic relief which is the last thing logan is lol.

[Psyquis52]

admin said:

haha, you've just said fighting words to some serious fanboys.

I know. I'm almost always hesitant to say it, but I might as well be frank.
I gain nothing by concealing my thoughts.

This is one thing I can enevr understand about people who think capt will win. First off lets see the stats.
Strength logan listed at superhuman, capt listed at peak human
Durability Logan list at enhanced human and capts listed at peak human
Stamina logan list at superhuman and capts listed at peak human
Fighting skill there both listed at the same level.
Agility logans listed at superhuman levels and capt listed at peak human’
Reflex logans listed at superhuman and capts listed at peak human
Healing factor logan dwarfs capt about a million fold lol.
Experience logan dwarfs capt.
Sense logan dwarfs capt.
How can you say capt wins? He hold nto such advantage for this fight and it at a disadvantage in every area. I ridiculous how many people say capt wins? What capt going to do to put down logan?

*sigh* #tumble#

[Magic attack]

bigbran said:

How do you feel about this character?

I like the character just fine. He is a man that goes against the grain. He does what he likes and everyone just has to accept it.

I like that.

How do you feel about his current writing?

Its ok. I complain more about the artists then the writing.

Do you like him better now, or when he was written back in the 80's/90's?

80/90's. I didnt like X-men, but I did enjoy reading Wolverine's solo adventures. Now I pretty much read everything. Since they are free

Is it the character that makes you mad, or the fanboys? (if you don't like him)

Well every character's fanboys cause the character to be looked on in a bad light. The Fanboy's lie, they misrepresent scans and are way too one sided in their thinking.

Is he overused in comics?

Sometimes. He has been the hot thing for the past couple of years, so he is getting a into a lot of comics. But Marvel wants to make money, so they are going to do what they have to do to sell titles.

Where would you place him, in strength, skills, and such?

I would say slightly above peak human in most stats.

What is the attraction of this character?

I would say his attitude.

Who do you think should be the limit, of who he should be able to beat?

I would say that he has the ability to beat a fair number of characters. He has the adamantium claws that will always allow him to win if Wolverine's foe takes him too lightly. I do see him having the ability to beat someone like Spider-Man, but I dont see Wolverine taking the majority.

If you are talking about who Wolverine takes the majority from... That is tough to say in my opinion. If there were a list of characters then I would give my assesment of each battle.

[The Big Daddy C-Master]

Free? Why whatever do you mean? #rave2fb#

[aaronj]

Spiderman is overexposed because he has good writing unlike the crap Wolverine gets out. I mean the comics I have been reading are fine until he faced people he shouldn't or done things he shouldn't.

Its like this, he was created and done things his power-set isn't able to do. If they made his power-set equal to things he does thats fine. But no they don't, they give him the same old ability's but make him do shit he shouldn't.

And the fanboys are in love with him. Like Wolverine8888, a long dead member. And a new member I think of as a friend ha been born. But come on, he shouldn't be compared to Namor, one punch and it should be over. Because he has the strength and the skill to knock him out. You always say one hit will beat I'm, well thats bull because we saw one hit and he got back up and knocked him out.